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#{|chat commentary|}#{|ooc notes transition鈥攟}#i'll be reblogging the post that's a main chunk of context for this in just a minute lmao-- *but uh...*#Avi mentioned Shizuma being bold enough to do the lil action from said post--#and neither Minato nor myself are well about that thought rn-- 馃拃
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I wish to love and appreciate idw optimus more too. But I also don鈥檛 want to read through the entirety of IDW 1.0. Can you please recommend me any specific issues/parts?
Hi!! I see that you have already reblogged my IDW1 Optimus-focused reading guide, so I assume that you read that and still felt like it was too much. I'd do anything to spread the OP love, so I will try! But before that, please forgive me for rambling a bit.
That guide is not the entirety of IDW1, I tried to cut as much as possible, and I want to reiterate that I consider Barber's Optimus the definitive take on IDW1 Optimus. To the point that I like all other stuff with him only in because I read them through Barber's characterization which serves to give them depth in retrospective. And it does this because Barber's writes Optimus with the intention of consolidating all the other writer's takes on him (which were uh... a mess). It's a very contextual reading, a conversation, there's more to get from it if you know the background. So I would ask you to reconsider giving it a try, skip the crossovers if you want. I'll redo the reading guide with links to download/read online if you want.
That being said, I understand that sounds like "read these bad comics in the hopes you will like this one other comic" and the point is to have fun, not to do homework. So in that case I'll say to just read exrid/Optimus Prime and the JRo stuff (but we'll come back to teh later)
See, the exrid/OP is a whole story, so recommeding individual issues doesn't make much sense to me, it would be like recommending one episode of an anime or one chapter of a book, it would entirely lack context and lost much of it's meaning, especially because Optimus is a main character whose actions cannot be taken out from the rest of the plot. My favorite moments require build up, like when Optimus annexes the Earth to the council of worlds, that doesn't hit the same if you didn't read all the previous issues where Optimus was trying to remove all Cybertronian influence from Earth and the series of events that led to him changing his mind and think such a fucking move was a good idea.
And I've talked about this before, but while Mtmt/LL has its biggest strenght in character dynamics and out-of-screen build up, exRID/OP has it in thematic consistensy and narrative cohesion. All parts of it and there to make a point that feeds the whole, character's perspectives feed each other and the biggest pay-off comes at the very end. Also, Optimus Prime is a story about him as a character as much as it is about him as a symbol, so seeing the effects he has on other people is important.
I suppose you could read exRID starting from post Dark Cybertron as it basically becomes a different story and the first part doesn't feature Optimus (except in issues 6, 10, 19) I would not recommend this as there are still a lot of links between the two and you would miss a chunk of Arcee's story (who is the one other character on which the whole thing falls upon). But you could. Don't skip Combiner Wars tho.
Other than that here are some hightlights:
The Death of Optimus Prime: This is the one that works best as a single issue, as it is a one-shot. It sets up phase 2 so definitively read it.
JRo's stuff: That is Chaos Theory, Mtmte #9-11, Mtmte #36 and Spotlight: Orion Pax. Now, JRo's OP is certainly the one that is more likeable, but I don't necessarily think that it's good. JRo kinda wants to have Optimus be more morally grey but always reels back and portrays him as the ultimate good seemingly without considering the implications of a lot of the stuff he does. But still, Chaos Theory is the backbone of phase 2, they are fun reads and it introduces a lot of backstory and aspects of his personality that will be important.
Punishment: As this is a mini series, it's good to read on its own. It's still set in the broader context of exRID, but at least it's a complete story and a compelling one! Lots of Optimus brooding, but not in an annoying way.
Optimus Prime #1-6: Okay, so if you don't want to read all of exrid/OP or are testing the waters before commiting to it. This arc deals with Optimus trying to get people to accept Earth as part of the Council of Worlds and risking war for it, contrasted with events of his past. This may be the easiest arc to read on its own, but I also think it does a great job of building Optimus character. It's also a great example of the narrative not shying away from Optimus doing bad things, stupid things and having anger issues (and also the cop thing), while also retaining the core of his character as someone who genuinely wants to do good and getting into his head to make sense of his actions (not justify them). This is something that I feel only Barber gets right. Also Zeta Prime is there and he's the most important character that barely shows up.
Autocracy: Ok, ok, listen... this may or may not be the most disliked series in IDW1 and while I think it has a worse reputation than it deserves, I still wouldn't call it good. While its more honest abotu what being a cop entails than Chaos Theory and is willing to have OP be unsavory, that aspect doesn't really go anywhere and it fails to make OP an enganging character whose actions make sense. But it still has the backstory of how Orion became Optimus and a friend likes it, so hey, maybe you will too. Also the aforementioned flashbacks of OP 1-6 feel to me that they are written in direct response to Autocracy and try to explain how that is the same character than the one in Chaos Theory. I'm actually working on meta about that (anon, if you're reading this, I haven't forgotten). So for all that Barber is trying to recontextualize and reconciliate all the other takes on Optimus, this is the most obvious one and Autocracy is not that long. So it may be worth checking out.
Sorry for rambling again, I hope you find this useful!! Feel free to ask for links or any other questions!
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Besides, one of the first things newbies pick up about this place is that it's a great, big auditorium where it isn't uncommon to hear someone with no obvious connection to your interests yell just how much they care about this or that issue.
Cogent posts include help lines, donation links, and maybe the occasional bit of understanding. It's hard for starving students to toss a few hundos towards five or six different causes, it's still hard for people with gainful employment, so a good chunk of effective messaging means understanding that just paying attention or Reblogging the post can mean a lot.
Then there's every other kind of signal-boosting post. The guilt-trippers and virtue-signallers, the blanket-statement-makers and the passive-aggressive memelords.
In my experience, however, there's nothing quite as hard as someone who you know would've given you a solid primer on their Hot Button issue at any other moment, but tiredness or pain or just plain frustration makes them deviate from their norm and just - spill on whoever happens to ask for clarification.
If you're looking to raise awareness for something, take five and separate yourself from the issue. Draft out your post and make sure its main points are as clear as can be. Lay it out dispassionately. If you can't, then don't post that call to action - not just yet. It's not because you're personally invested or at least emotionally invested that things will be clear for others. Great examples were found in the fundraiser-related posts for the Amazon's fires, seeing as a lot of them cited their sources, provided additional references and even included a walkthrough on how to contribute to one of said fundraisers.
Give me enough context, and I'll agree to whatever point of contention you're throwing my way, if it fits with me. Telling me you've "seen me ignoring XYZ" is more than enough for me to keep ignoring XYZ.
Im immune to guilt trippy "hey reblog this, I see you ignoring this" posts. it could be the best take I've ever read in my life and then as soon as it finishes its statement with "everyone must reblog this" I black out and vaporize the post from my memory. what were you talking about? who knows who cares I'm looking at something else now
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