#i would add andy and quynh to this post but i'm still not sure what's going on with them canon-wise lol

[non-un-topo]

Struck right in the heart once again by the fact that Joe and Nicky are a canon gay couple who are also immortal and have been in love for a thousand years and also they kill homophobes

[elizabeth-mitchells]

Oh, I agree. I'm a hopeless romantic like Joe, so I desperately hope they make up. And I read the comic before watching the movie, so I was looking for clues, and they were all there: Andy was grieving and angsting, was envious and sad of Joe and Nicky being happy together, 'cause she used to have that; the Iron Maiden scene; and 'not meant to be alone', but Andy thinks she is meant to be alone. What other relationship with compare to being with someone for a third of your lifetime? (p1)

warning: long long post about anon and i analyzing andy and quynh’s relationship and being emotional

And I might be in the minority, but I prefer movie canon to the comics - the relationships are more organic and fleshed out, and some plot holes smoothed over. What did you think? There is a line, though - 'but the woman I loved does under the water', and I'm hoping to hear it in the sequel. I think that's one of the things that could bring Quynh back from her madness, and her rage. And the fact that Andy is mortal. You can't erase a relationship like theirs. It's incomprehensible. (p2)

Quynh spent most of her life with Andy by her side. I don't think she knows how to exist without her. It would be the same for Nicky and Joe. When you are connected to someone like that, it's impossible to tell where they begin and you end, you are too closely entwined. And yeah, it might take another 500 years or eternity like you said, but they'll get there. (p3)

Also the way Veronica Ngô portrayed her? Can't imagine her playing a villain for too long. And having an overarching villain be an Asian queer woman? Doesn't sit well with me. Let them destroy oppressive systems together. There are more than enough real monsters out there in the world, but a woman with unimaginable trauma. And I wanna see Nile surrounded by two annoying immortal dorks, and a less depressed straight asshole brother (eventually). (p4)

I hope you don't give up and write more of them. I re-read your story probably 5x by now. I believe you walk the line between old and traumatised Quynh really well. I imagine it's difficult to write that dual nature between love and hate, madness and sanity. I don't think she is even fully present most of the time. She desperately needs her family to bring her back, and she needs to heal by someone who knows and understands, and will burn the world to the ground if they try to hurt her. (p5)

Hi! I’m sorry I took so long to answer. I finished reading the comics, I started them again, I watched the movie one more time, I’m not sure why I’m so emotionally invested but I am! Let me tell you, the comics deeply affected me. There’s so much to say!

I’m so happy I read the comics, they add so many layers to the story and I agree with you! In general I liked the movie a bit more. But the comic does make some good points, like Andy not losing her immortality yet. And I loved that she get to have a normal conversation with Quynh, and it wasn’t just fighting, I hope that if there’s a sequel we get to see that because yes! talk about things!

Though I have a few problems with the way the second volume ended. Andy’s greatest fear is being alone and I get that Nile walks away but Joe, Nicky and Booker, without saying a thing? Joe, Nicky and Copley have the proof that Andy has done a lot of good for this worlds and don’t say a thing and leave her alone? I didn’t love that.

But! You are so right about Andy and Quynh being too closely intertwined and too difficult to erase their relationship. Something I’ve been thinking about is their loneliness. No one in the team has known loneliness like those two. Nile was found after a day, Booker after a year i think? Joe and Nicky really always had each other. But Andy spent thousands of years alone, then both her and Quynh another thousand years to find each other, then Quynh 500 years alone in the ocean? You can’t just !!! erase, ignore, break, give up a connection like that.

As for what I hope will happen... it’s complicated, because after the movie I expected Quynh to be angry, mad, thirsty for revenge, sure. I Thought she’d want to destroy Andy and the team for breaking the promise. But after reading the comics it looks like it’s even more than that! She’s angry with the entire world and she’s powerful and she looks so determined to cause suffering. However... after she kissed Andy... that’s some vulnerability right there. Neither of them is a lost cause, I’m sure. I have so much hope for them. And I really doubt the writer, after giving us such a thoughtful and heartfelt story would go and be cruel to these two immortal soulmates. Both Andy and Quynh have a lot to work through, and they fact that they are reunited, that they won’t ever have to be alone again, that they can figure it out together... yeah, I strongly believe that means they can heal together, be happy, be in love, have the happy ending they’s earned.

Oh and a last little thing. I did Not plant to write more about these two but... God they are just such a powerful couple and I’m so emotional and !!! I have to. I’ll admit, and this is the first time I do it because seriously after posting something I never re-read it, but even I have read again that one shot a couple of times because i find it is a very soothing scenario that I can believe in, where they reunite and it’s imperfect but it will be fine.

Thank you so much for writing to me and please feel free to keep the messages going. come off anon if you’d like. I still have so much to say about Andy and Quynh, my favorite immortal girlfriends ❤