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crazyalien87 · 2 years ago
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wow. ok yea op's post is sexist & misogynist & just so bad. but also it is just wrong on so many other levels as well.
"you're excluding all the trans and nonbinary people who experience misogony". 🤨do u mean...male people? I mean yea presumably they wouldn't have to deal with misogyny unless if they pass as female (because female people are the targets of misogyny). I mean I suppose you could say that hatred towards feminine male people (they are not a total overlap with male trans people of course) is like an offshoot of misogyny bc it is hating them for being something that is culturally associated with female people? I guess but like that is a stretch.
"you're telling us that to have access to feminism and activist communities that we have to label ourselves women even if we don't." no, we aren't saying that. we are saying that woman refers to sex, not gender identity. YOU are the one who thinks that woman is some kind of opt-in gender category. stop projecting.
"if you use the word women to talk about body functions such as menstruation you're also excluding trans women who don't experience those things." So?? what is your point? there are plenty of female women who don't get periods either, such as menopausal women & those with certain medical conditions. I, personally, haven't had one since last July. That doesn't mean that the word woman cannot be used generally to refer to the class of people who can get periods, just because not all of us have periods...
"Please find alternative language when you aren't referring to yourself or specific people because it's really tiring being misgendered". damn this is selfish ngl. like just block some tags & accounts or something. it is fucked up to expect everyone else to censor themselves for your comfort. like damn I get having dysphoria but like that is mainly your responsibility tho.
"misogony" bruh u are on the internet, you can't figure out how to spell this? it doesn't even sound like that. like if u spelled it "misahguny" or something I would get it bc it sounds like that usually. but damn.
"Gender discrimination will never be simple enough to fit into a binary". uhm. it is called sexism for a reason. because it is sex-based discrimination. of female people. aka misogyny.
I need cis women to limit their use of the word "women" as much as possible tbh
When you make posts that use the word women/woman for people who experience misogony you're excluding all the trans and nonbinary people who experience misogony, you're telling us that to have access to feminism and activist communities that we have to label ourselves women even if we don't.
And then if you use the word women to talk about body functions such as menstruation you're also excluding trans women who don't experience those things.
Please find alternative language when you aren't referring to yourself or specific people because it's really tiring being misgendered because cis people won't think things through.
Every one who falls short of cis men experiences some level of gender discrimination based in misogony. Gender discrimination will never be simple enough to fit into a binary so you need to take that into account when you interact with gender related activism and justice.
(Cis people can reblog but no arguments please)
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georgianadarcies · 3 years ago
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I made the mistake of going into the gilmore girls tag and found this post buffysummers(.)tumblr(.)com/ post/674195231213830144 and i’m really curious as to what are your thoughts on this? and also the tags on the reblogs 🥴 like i’m losing it rn.. first of all, I can’t believe there are chr*stopher stans lmao that’s so embarrassing. but I honestly can’t believe how delusional these people are?? they think the fandom hates christopher only for “creating drama” between luke and lorelai like- what are you on.. he’s literally a shitty father. Him paying for YALE or wanting to marry Lorelai at 16 doesn’t make him a good parent? like, is that it? he tried??? and lorelai didn’t let him?? he sure didn’t seem mad about it, or angry at her, or idk hiring a fucking lawyer to fight for custody?? he was literally living his best life when he came to stars hollow in s1 (for the first time btw), and while he was there he proposed to lorelai? 🤡 like. this man isn’t trying to be there for his kid. this narrative of lorelai pushing him away and “not letting him be a dad” is simply not true?? do these people not see how christopher /only/ cares about rory or is there for her when lorelai is in the picture? also the fact that we can count on one hand the good things he’s done for her. “he paid for YALE!!” 😭😭 I have to laugh --- btw you don’t have to post this if you don’t want to, I wouldn’t want to create tumblr drama, I just wanted to read your opinion on this
yeahhh going into the gilmore girls tag is usually a mistake isn't it. but god no that post is... like the reasoning is so?? my thoughts on it are that, yeah, it's ridiculous. a lot of the general criticisms of christopher are not related to javajunkie, at least not directly!! christopher isn't deadbeat in the sense that he stays home and doesn't work and drinks all day and expects the mom to do everything, but he isn't exactly father of the year. the idea that lorelai is "gate-keeping" rory from him is outlandish, considering the fact that christopher saw his daughter rarely and hadn't visited stars hollow once before he showed up in season 1. he was never there for rory despite being totally welcomed by lorelai then!! there's a reason that after a while they weren't welcoming to him, and that's because he let them down multiple times and hurt both rory and lorelai constantly. paying for rory's tuition is nice, but (a) it was no skin off his back and (b) it doesn't make up for all the shit he'd pulled in the past or the shit he pulls after.
and honestly, when it comes to christopher, his involvement in the luke and lorelai drama is the least of my worries. it was absolutely a dick move, and showed that he really didn't actually care what was best for lorelai, and just wanted her for himself, but out of all the things he does, it is not nearly the worst. my grievances are about how he treats lorelai and especially how he treats rory, his own daughter. rory says it herself—he just comes along and messes up their lives when he leaves every time. he breaks lorelai's heart and then is indignant when she won't forgive him. he doesn't care about rory unless he's getting something from lorelai. he was never there for his own daughter, except for buying her a few things here and there, but he never really looked out for or cared for her. he hurts her and walks out on her and is a major reason that rory struggles so hard with trusting and self worth. yeah, chris was awful with luke and lorelai, but that is not the reason he is called a deadbeat. that post is so dumb and just ignores so much of the show like maybe OP should rewatch at somepoint
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southsidestory · 3 years ago
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Thank you SO much for the context! This makes a lot of sense.
Also, looking at the notes and rereading my response now, I've realized two things: 1) I sound like I was calling you out, which I didn't intend, and 2) at ass o'clock in the morning when I wrote and queued this response, I somehow thought I was adding commentary to a viral post??? Which, obviously, expectations of OP reading your commentary on a post with hundreds of thousands of notes are different from on one that has several hundred. So I was sort of speaking into the ether, not at you specifically, even though you wrote the post and I reblogged directly from you. (I reblogged from you because I didn't want to reblog from the mutual who put it on my dash, since I was trying to avoid coming off like I was calling them out.)
Forgive me for this mess; I got my wisdom teeth out yesterday and wasn't fully with it lol
Anyway. I completely agree with you about Goodwill, their labor practices are criminal (well, should be). And that local thrift store sounds heinous. I'm not saying someone should TP them... but mostly because we're in the middle of a paper shortage.
"In the US, at least, we snort ground-up protestant work ethic" this is the most accurate thing I've ever read wow 😂
Thanks so much for taking the time to explain this to me, because I had no idea what was entrenched in the "hand up" shit. I tried to google it last night and couldn't find anything, but I googled "hand up vs handout" right now and immediately got a bunch of exactly what you're describing. So I have no idea what 2 a.m. Post Wisdom Tooth Extraction Scarlett googled, but it was apparently not anything sensible!
I would have written this differently if I'd had my wits about me, because frankly, I was kind of a dick lol so I appreciate your patience.
Hand-outs are fine, actually. The sanctimonious nonsense of “a hand-up, not a hand-out’ is a perfect example of our society’s utterly FUCKED attitude toward poor people. Sometimes people just need help.
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normal-thoughts-official · 4 years ago
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welp its been like, a week, and ive tried both talking to op and asking some of my friends to (politely) talk to op and ask them to take my name off this list and they have been ignoring us (while also posting occasionally) so i guess the closest to a rectification im gonna get is reblogging this myself
so, to make things as clear as possible:
IM NOT IN THE SUPERNATURAL FANDOM
ive never watched this show except for the two last episodes which i watched for the memes
I DONT SUPPORT HARRASSMENT OF ANY KIND FOR ANY REASON
i literally have absolutely nothing to do with anyone going to yalls posts to pick up ridiculous fights like these screnshotted in this post. ive never done this, not in fandoms i am/was in, not in this fandom that i literally never joined in my life, and honestly the very idea both offends and disgusts me
the most ive ever done was complain about shit i dont like/find problematic in my own space, without identifying or doxxing anyone, away from the main tags, and tagged in ways that would prevent ppl who dont want my salt from having to see it. that's not the same as going to anyone's posts with the intent of mocking them or picking up fights. i don't even do this for shit that REALLY upsets me - like racism in fandom - much less would do it for stuff like "is misha a good actor"
WINCEST BLOGS WHO DO THAT STUFF: IM NOT ONE OF YOU. STOP COMING TO MY BLOG AND/OR SENDING ME HATEFUL MESSAGES ABOUT YOUR FANDOM DRAMA. I DONT GO THERE, AND EVEN IF I DID, ID WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU
and op
TAKE MY NAME OFF THIS FUCKING LIST
and start being minimally responsible with what u post. harrassment is a heavy accusation, and u already took, like, half the names in that list off, and all but blatantly admitted that u didnt check who u were putting there, u just added ur whole blocklist. dude. ppl get death threats over shit like this. if ur gonna make a public callout post like this, at least check what ur saying
i tried being polite, but since ur ignoring me, then well. this is the best i can do
to my followers: DONT HARRASS OP EITHER. thats the last thing i want. i dont want a war, i dont want a fight, i just want to be in peace and not involved in ship wars or fandom drama. and right now i just want to make things clear and defend myself since talking to op directly didn't work
attention all destiel shippers!!!
Ok now that there are a lot of new destiel shippers in our fandom, i thought maybe i should warn them about this.
I have seen a lot of hijacked destiel post recently (it always happens but right now it is so much worse) and hijackers (aka bronlies and wincest shippers) block that blog before they find out that their post is reblogged by a wincestie or bronly.
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They reblog Sam related posts and mock other posts that are about destiel/misha/ackles family/ cockles and…
So if you don’t want to see a screenshot of your post or don’t want your posts be reblogged by these people just block everybody on this list:
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of course this list doesn’t include all of them but at least you will be safe from most of them (most of these blogs are popular anti destiel blogs so if you block them, you will be safe from the rest)
This post may help someone and prevent bronlies to spread hate in this fandom. Please reblog it and block them.
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