#i think. i'm gonna leave them as separate posts/rbs...

[cacaitos]

ahahahahahhahahahaha

[house-of-vandernacht]

May I add to this, as this is vitally important. To be absolutely crystal clear: I have only very recently been made a mod. (like, 2 weeks ago, i think) I am stating this as I've been accused of hiding that fact, when this account has always been a NM account. I was an ordinary server member when the incident occurred, i was also on vacation, so had the luxury of being able to read all of it in one continuous thread, with no skin in the game. This is what I saw: Red did not allow Crimson back into the server. That was a mod team's mistake coming from a place of bad intel coming from an source to who had proceeded to show themselves as untrustworthy in the interim of Crimson's first ban. Multiple server members asked to see undoctored evidence. This was quibbled over back and forth by the source. Multiple community members called for calm, this was ignored. When unedited evidence was eventually provided after Crimson was given a probation period, Crimson was swiftly and immediately banned. Crimson was never a mod. And was never ever anywhere near being considered a mod. At the time, there were 3 mods for a server of 6k people. One mod was asleep when the incident occurred. Another mod was busy with IRL stuff, leaving one mod available to try handle a snowball by themselves. (this has now been rectified so it can never happen again, by expanding the mod team. All the new mods are trusted members of the community, who were suggested by other members of the community. None of them are groomers.) I now know that Red was begged by one of the OG mod team to step in as they genuinely believed people would listen to Red. Red, did not think this was a good idea. I have never witnessed any grooming in the server. The Nevercord server has always had a strict NSFW policy. All the Crimson stuff happened in side servers, the servers where the minors were harmed, and private dms. Servers and dms Nevercord had no idea about until after the fact. The owners of those servers are responsible for what happens in their servers and protecting their members, if they could not do that, they had no right running a server. As far as I can tell, the owners of those servers have not been held responsible in anyway. It has all been thrown solely at Red's feet. Yes, mistakes were made, by multiple people, (the owners of the outside servers, the OG mod team being so small for such a large and ever growing server, choice words said in the heat of an 8 hour long 100p v 1p dogpile.) but is not right, nor is it fair to make one person responsible for things that A) Aren't her fault. B) A shitshow that had many moving parts, involving multiple people. Here's to looking forward to the premiere of season two, even if its a little later than expected.

[blukiar]

For the sake of others

(I notice my rb answer doesn't show up on the og post, neither in the tags so I'm gonna make it a separate post for the sake of Anon and any other persons curious to know about the situation)

Now first and foremost - this post is NOT to address the situation itself as I HATE drama but I HATE being apart of it MORE. This is about an earlier situation that I think people should be aware of. Trust is key, and misinformation destroys that.

(For the nevermore situation I recommend reading this Red FIRST, then navigate to the others as there are a COUPLE responses from several different folks so Idk who to link. In the end it is up to you to decide who you support/who you believe is in the wrong. Personally, BOTH are in the wrong)

Now to the point of this post: I'm keeping the name in because it's not a personal acc, and the person behind it has announced stepping away from the fandom entirely. REGARDLESS DO NOT GO HARASSING THEM NO ONE DESERVES HARASSMENT!

Earlier today upon checking my dash I saw this and immediately got upset about it because this is unacceptable. On a normal day I'd just roll my eyes and scroll away from drama related posts but THIS one grind my gears so much that I HAD to confront OP on it. What happened next made me even more disappointed as this acc was literally the only nevermore content acc that I follow on tumblr...

About an hour after confrontation, I checked back to the post only to find that my comment was removed/hidden by OP as shown below

It's funny how they and a couple others are calling out how Red tries to silence folks speaking out on the situation by deleting comments and leaving out stuff etc, etc, YET they are no different...

All I asked is why they blatantly lied to Anon about the situation? Knowing FULLY well that's NOT what happened. The least you could have done was to direct Anon to RnF page/or to the accusers posts to read the response to the situation and have them formulate their OWN opinions and conclusions to it. But instead they chose lie to Anon and hide/remove my comment.

Now I get it, OP didn't have to answer me, they're NOT obligated to, they could have ignored me or even block me! They have the freedom to do so, who am I to get angry for that? YET they chose to silence me. The same thing they accuse Red of doing, for a simple question?? Wow...

Then OP proceeded to add "evidence" to their earlier summary that, mind you, DOES NOT support their earlier claim here. It's just screenshots of Red talking about the Crimson situation, you know, about the 1 single individual - OP's summary made it sound like it's the ENTIRE moderation team that are groomers and that Red allowed it

The point here is that OP lied and silenced me for calling them out on lying to someone who was unaware and genuinely trusted them to tell a truthful rundown of the situation

And honestly, I wish OP well, I hope they take the time to take a breath and reflect. I wish them a blessed day/night and I hope that Anon gets the truthful information they need cause this is just disappointing...

Again this post was made for the sake of those unaware of the situation and is just looking for a TRUSTWORTHY and a non bias source to go by. For that I think it's best to read Red's response first to get the gest of it then navigate to the others and make your own conclusions.

Thanks for Reading, and sorry for ruining your day with this nonsense.