#i think the fact that seb is charles' first teammate in competitive machinery and a competitive team has made the way they talk about
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sebastian vettel has this philosophy of only being confident about speaking on a driver's skills and abilities if he's been teammates with them, and it honestly makes the way he describes his former teammates very weirdly charged :p
anddd im putting the rest under dropdown because its sebchal waffle and kinda. long. so here if u wanna read my brainrot:
i'm specifically thinking about how he likes to emphasise (in interviews) that he knows charles sort of inside out as a driver because of their two (!!) years as teammates. the way he speaks about his abilities and talents and specifically, this year when he very quickly asserted that charles will be easy for lewis to get along with, even though seb was last teammates with charles four years ago!! when seb was the first driver!! and also his interview from suzuka last year when he said that he can't speak on max's skill because he hasn't been teammates with him, unlike charles, who he can totally 100% talk about, if only charles wins that championship one day (he did not say this second bit but it was heavily implied imo. he did say the first half re: max). sort of feels like he's always speaking from a "foremost expert on charles leclerc, the driver" position, and if i were to go on a limb i would say that he always speaks of charles with pride. big like. proud dad vibes.
also a minor digression but the indelible mark seb left on charles' career is undeniable and IMO the more illustrious charles' career is the better it reflects on seb (like the 2020 shame can kind of be washed off if charles becomes a wdc. a compelling reason to be a fan of both.)
my last note on this is how re: the most talented driver in 15 years note, seb clarifies in his f1 podcast episode (which is a very nice listen. he also talks about mark and kimi in that) that he would consider kimi the most naturally talented driver he's seen, but charles' ability to find laptime over a single lap is special. so seb is a charles leclerc generational qualifier truther. an og.
#i think the fact that seb is charles' first teammate in competitive machinery and a competitive team has made the way they talk about#each other very. abnormal#also u can 100% say with cited sources (charles himself) that seb was his mentor figure#the way he regards teammates. cultivates this sense of exclusivity#that makes things seem very homoerotic#u could cite that gtg height moment too if u wanted to spin this in an rpf way#my original (rpf) thesis was that seb is weirdly possessive about facts about charles#sebchal
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Hi thanks for answering :)
I agree on all your points on Carlando especially the last one (I had forgotten about that one) and it's just amazing I can't describe how I feel about them... The fact that they talk a lot in private is so cool. If you think back to Miami where they went on a golf weekend together with Zak. Like they must be conversing so much and and I don't know of any other drivers pairing which is so close like Carlando. Or like in Melbourne they arrived early so they could spend to whole days together. :) They're not even from the same team. But I guess there's no rule for them to not hangout with eachother so they do it bc they can. That's so wholesome! Also the moment when Carlos listed all the teammates he had had and forgot Lando and said Charles first. And then Charles noticed and pointed it out to him. I think they don't even realise they're work-buddies anymore but actually just see eachother as friends who meet up every weekend. They seem so close and I imagine Lando will be invited to Carlos' and Isa's wedding (if it happens - hopefully).
They mean everything to me! <3
About Lestappen: Absolutely! I adore their history with eachother. It may be a rivalry but the respect between them makes it beautiful. It's so different from Brocedes where they went from bff's to haters to "yeah we can talk again but we're not friends". It's childhood enemies to "yeah we can talk but we're not friends" to work-buddies (or friends? but they still don't follow eachother on insta...). I love how everyone calls them emotional support rivals. Like that's literally the perfect term for them. What do you think about them being rbr teammates? Do you think it would work out well for Charles? In terms of racing. And what do you think would it do to their friendship?
don't apologies I'm happy to hear your opinion! 😊
exactly, in f1 even teammates don't spend time together outside of work usually but carlando always finding a way to spend time in any way possible-like playing golf in augusta or u said Melbourne, it's very brotherly. however I dont think we would be seeing lando or anyone for that matter in carlos and isa's wedding. they've broken up bestie😭
as for lestappen, so true. i think even seb and lewis had their disrespect moments where they were enemies at some point but with lestappen its quite respectful. for example, when charles crashed in miami and ruined max's only chance of flying lap, max just sighed on the team radio and later during the media pen he said it could've happened to anyone and that he was prone to errors too in that area. could you imagine if it were anyone else? there'd be a rainbow of words coming out of him right there and then and he could very well hold charles accountable for that incident, but he didn't. and again thats something u don't get to see a lot. like come on, even your own teammates blame you but coming this from a rival must've meant a lot.
as for rbr teammates,I think it would be a disaster for the team . ofc both of them would get equal machinery and opportunity and there would be cut throat competition, which can be good for racing but that may lead to unhealthy rivalry if you know what i mean. it would even affect their friendship in an adverse manner ofc. so i think them being in different teams is a better option because neither of them would back out and it could prove to be bad for the team.
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