#i know i know I said I'd stop but people quoting me is my kryptonite i can't

[kim-ruzek]

"We also weren't mad when upstead got together or married, but that yet again would involve some actual cognitive thought on stans' behalves and I'm unconvinced there is any."

You are completely incorrect here. Maybe you or the people you follow were not mad, but there were definitely burzek fans who were under every upstead post for YEARS complaining about them. Not venting, just straight up trashing them. This is not a lack of cognitive thought on some fans part, it's a lack of awareness on yours.

You can accuse me of a lot of things but having a lack of awareness ain't one of them. I do not make broad statements when I haven't looked at all the facts or played devil's advocate to see both/all sides.

I already said I'm not denying there's not crazies (on either side). There is. Immature fans are a part of fandom. But you're also ignoring the years of harassment and insults burzek fans have gotten from y'all too. And as I said, if it was just the crazies on either side that'll be fine because that's part of dealing with fandom. But it's not.

Even if say I concede the point that the burzek crazies are the origin point... That still does not justify the actions of upstead stans. Two wrongs don't make a right and it's my opinion if you don't know that, you have no business being on the internet.

But look, we're going in circles. I know you're never going to see this matter clearly and I'm never going to give you want you want because I don't subscribe to your reality so just go back to your corner and idk rewatch upstead getting married to calm yourself if that ceremony is good to you