#i know everything is super interpretable and fluid now but it wasn't back then
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Don’t have time to elaborate on this at the mo, (ETA apparently I did in the tags) but it’s starting to get really weird how much people want to equate early 90s homophobic edginess made by straight people with queerness as we understand it today.
#i know everything is super interpretable and fluid now but it wasn't back then#that's why straight people felt safe doing this stuff#not even just straight people but it came from mainstream straight culture#i think this is why i often find fandom uncomfortable#like i decided to dip my toe into listening to gwar after seeing them live on tuesday which was a fucking blast#their live shows man everyone should see at least one#but their back catalogue is vast and varied in quality#so i played skumdogs of the universe and it was probably the most enjoyable sound i had heard in the selection i tried from a playlisyt#but it's also speckled with casual homophobia and racism#as was normal when people did shock jock shit in the early 90s#i was telling my bf that i would describe it as not as bad as it could have been for the time i guess#the marshall mathers lp came out years later and is CONSIDERABLY more homophobic while going for a similar tone#and is still regarded as a classic record#anyway now i go on tumblr looking for gwar stuff to reblog and i'm finding people saying actually gwar is queer???#like.....no it's not!!#this is why i try to not get into bands with characters fuckin hell#becuase they get fandoms and fandoms are just like this and i hate it#gwar get a pass by me because they put far more efffort into the spectacle of the show than building their lore#but there is no way in hell i'm ever learning the lore of the gorilaz or something fuck off#i ranted but honestly i don't want to take away anyone's thing like if you really believe that gwar is the essence of queerness#i'm glad for you but for me it's super patriarchal metal shit that's fun in small-medium doses
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