#i keep meaning to but the twins are so compelling and it's also nanon so

[theheightofdishonor]

Idk how you keep hooking me back into this damn show when it's as bad as it is😭 but here I am responding to your tags because somehow, you activate an urge to talk about it that I didn't even know I had.

It's a reallyyy interesting point you raise about Nanfah distinguishing between Nannam knowing him as Nanfah vs the Jungle knowing him as Tiger. I never thought about it like that but I think it'd be a nonissue because even though the guys all technically have nicknames, they don't use it much with each other? Especially when referring to the twins? It would've been cool though if they did because why not give Fah more issues than he already has lol. Also didn't Fah wear Nam's ear cuff at some point and I think Hunter could still tell it was Fah? There's also just the fact that like, my opinion of all of these people would just plummet even more than it already has if they spend 10 years with these boys and couldn't tell them apart. Like that's just embarrassing. Especially because the twins don't bother to pull their little double act when it's just the group and also they dress differently and has different hair and different mannerisms and you'd have to reach implausible heights of stupidity to not be able to tell them apart after 10 years.

re: the jewelry, yeah I wish we got some more scenes with it too! Because from a meta level, the boys are very defined by it ie the episode titles and the voice overs and even just by calling their club the Jungle and purposefully adhering to this theme and identity but at the same time, it doesn't seem to do much in action other than Hack's Jungle identity helping him stay associated to his irl job. (I still haven't figured out what the voice overs were supposed to mean or lead to actually since they rarely had anything to do with the episode itself)

Due to the fact that we see Hunter open the jewelry box at the same time the boys all meet for the first time, I had assumed that the handing out jewelry business happened relatively soon afterwards. I gotta wonder though if the boys chose their respective symbols or if Hunter chose it for them. (Personally I go with Hunter, he seems the type lmao) This is actually an entire rabbit hole of thought because it then also makes me wonder how Hunter knew this is the group of boys he wanted to choose, and whether the jewelry is in anyway half-magical the way his drinks are, and if the number of/specific animals on the jewelry were all preset or if the box like magically sensed the boys and their personalities and produced appealing/accurate jewelry to match. Like what's the degree of choice vs fate here? The thing you said about Nanfah basically kicking himself out of their group when he relinquishes the Tiger necklace, like it has to mean something, have some actual significance rather than the lackluster break up/get back together arc. I wanted Hunter to like treat the boys differently after they quit the Jungle or something but like nothing ever happened.

The bit about Fah verbally distinguishing between the closeness he shares with Nannam vs a more distanced relationship with the Jungle was soo cool mostly because I forgot about that scene but also because I don't think I interpreted it as him implying a lack of closeness with the Jungle but instead just as a marker of closeness between him and Nannam. Like it makes sense that he's still closest to his twin, yeah? But I think your interpretation is fun though, if Fah considers them unreliable and not as close as they should be. It would make sense too since everyone else is fairly older than the twins are. I'm thinking about when I think it was Pine? or Lee's character uhhh Wayu maybe? That said Nam wouldn't have fucked up like Fah did after Pladao tried to expose the club. And i'm thinking about this in conjunction with "everything is easier for Nam" and if those are related. Is part of the reason that Nanfah considers the boys not close because he thinks they don't value him the same way theyvalue Nam? The possibility too, that something like that's happened before is soooo delightful honestly, that they've made comments, probably half-meant about Nam's seeming competence vs Fah's lack of and it's gotten under his skin(Nannam has an actual job and a life outside the Jungle and he's fairly well liked within the Jungle and i've never considered this before but what does Fah do outside the Jungle anyway? We know about everyone else except him, I think)

i am once again thinking about nanfah no last name and how his relationship with Kaewta fell apart because she couldn't tell him and Nannam apart, how Pladao also couldn't tell them apart when she ran into Nannam and Nithan on the roof, and how THAT is what Nanfah touches on when confronting Nannam - that the woman you're in love with and are choosing over me can't even tell us apart.

and then in this post @theheightofdishonor spoke about the possibility of Nanfah being haunted by "the knowledge that he's lying to Pladao like he did with Kaewta, unable to realize that it's different this time" and now I can't stop thinking about how YEAH how could he think things would play out differently between him and Pladao, but also, how could he ever think things would be different for Nannam and Nithan either?

And how much worse did it sting when Nannam never contradicted Nanfah when he brought up how Nithan wouldn't be able to tell who's who (possibly implying Nannam agreed with him), and yet Nannam still chose to pull a gun on his own brother - all for someone who, they both agree, can't even tell them apart.

and then-

Then Nithan did clock that it wasn't Nannam she was getting engaged to. Like Kaewta and Pladao, Nithan had no idea a twin existed, had no idea WHO it was in front of her, but she was certain enough that it wasn't Nannam that she readily gave up the ruse because she refused to get engaged to someone else. Nithan knew Nannam well enough to identify him correctly.

How was this any different from the situations with Kaewta and Pladao? Why couldn't the ones Nanfah fell in love with distinguish between the twins?

and finally, I'm thinking about: "everything seems so easy for Nam".

(that "finally" is a lie because I am also thinking about how, in the same confrontation, Nanfah asks Nannam if he really thinks Fah would've led a woman to kill herself. Until now, Nanfah has had other people not recognise him, but does even Nannam not know him anymore? Does his own twin really think that about him?)