#i don't yet have anything 'official' from SAG itself

[montanabohemian]

OH MY GODDDDDDD!??!??!?!!!!!!!!!!!!

SAG-AFTRA GOT A (tentative) DEAL

SAG-AFTRA GOT A FUCKING (tentative) DEAL

SAG-AFTRA GOT THEIR FUCKING (tentative) DEAL

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit: HERE'S THE OFFICIALOn a black background. A white figure with its right arm upraised. Next to it. In white tex: SAG-AFTRA. Below. In yellow text: STRIKE IS. Below. In white text: OVER. Below. In small, yellow text: Strike is suspended as of 12:01 AM (PT) November 9.

[enemymine2000]

I hear a lot of "bla bla made ship x/y canon" (especially from the Trek fandom) these days. And I realize that people have different understandings of what canon actually means.

My understanding of canon is admittedly very narrow. If a thing is not in the source material it belongs to, then to me it's not canon. So for Spirk and Garashir, who some now consider canon due to them being allegedly confirmed in some secondary material, that means, that no, they are not canon for me. The canonical text on them is ambiguous. If on purpose or because times were wilding doesn't matter. They are to me, what Destiel was before the declaration of love. Implied, subtext, happy accident, but not canon. Why do I have that narrow view? Because to consider something canon, all fans of the source material must be able to have equal access to said canonical thing. The only thing ensuring this is the source material itself. Not whatever side projects might exist. For Spirk that simply means that most people are not even aware of the Roddenberry Project. When I saw the video I had to google if the Youtube channel was in any shape or form officially related to Star Trek. The only reliable information I found was a throw away line on Memory Alpha. That's not accessible for every fan. (Additional opinion from watching the video itself: Spirk hold hands and look into the sun. They don't speak, they don't acknowledge, they are what they always have been. So, your milage on the actual canon there might vary, but yeah no. I don't ride Shitner's - not a typo, guy's an asshole - dick that hard that I have to construe a canon acknowledgement that doesn't go further than the source material. The OG show and the OG movies combined.) For Garashir: Their source material is Deep Space 9. Any other Trek show is additional material. I loved OG, TNG, DS9, Voyager, (never got the hang of Enterprise) but I probably will never watch the new shows. For lack of access to them - because not everyone might want to pay for any given streaming service - for lack of interest in increasingly confusing timeline shenanigans, for not wanting to see interpretations of beloved characters outside of the respective source materials. And I'm far from the only Trekkie like that. The majority of Trekkies are like that in some way or the other. For us Spirk remains the potential. The Premise. Garashir remains a hidden gem full of probablílities. Just like we continue asking ourselves what the hell was going on with Picard and Q. Off topic: I hate the existence of the video from it's conception. Leonard Nimoy is dead, yet his likeness was used to created some new narrative he himself could not agree to. That's icky. Especially when we think back to the SAG-AFTRA strike, and that actors fought for the right to their own image. That alone is the reason I will hence forth never consume anything the Roddenberry Project might put out. Just having footage staked in some warehouse doesn't give them the right to use the actor's likenesses in perpetuity.