#i don't think he killed the shadowlord thinking

[clair-de-lunar-tears]

it was an accident, who hasn’t done it

[confessmau]

I don't like fighting but I love Vylad, I genuinely find him interesting as is in canon.

What I find interesting about Vylad;

->He is very mysterious, there's a mystery surrounding him. This peakes my interests. While watching he constantly had me interested in knowing more about him. Who murdered him? What is his morality? What is his goal? What was he like before?

->Vylad is odd, he is strange. Ofcourse queer and neurodivergent people are going to be drawn to him. (And self project onto him)

Honestly "you just like him because he's gay" is such a weak argument. There are other characters that are canonically gay, and Vylad being Gay was never confirmed by Jess. Just implied in a line in mcd, and said to be pan by his vc in mystreet. There are many other characters, people headcanon as gay too.

->Vylad has an interesting morality, you don't know where he falls at first. And later it's said Vylad killed people before, Vylad used to be a loyal shadowknight before.

Vylad doesn't see himself a the same person he was before he turned into a shadowknight anymore.

->Vylad is one of the most hopeless and pessimistic shadowknights of all, while we see Laurance desperately clinging onto his humanity. Vylad has let go. Sasha was betrayed by her friends but still holds onto her morals and holds some dear feelings to them and her ex-husband Kenmur. Sasha has clung to the shadowknights now. She cared for her fellow shadowknights and how they got killed by Zenix. Gene is following the shadowlord's cause fully and driven by his hatred(and pain) for Dante. Zenix is also driven, driven by power, and not wanting to be controlled. Vincent is just doing his thing. Meanwhile, I'd say Vylad is the least driven of all, yet deep down he is a little. He still goes out of his way to secretly help Garroth for example, by getting Aphmau. He saved Levin. He helped out. There's this interesting duality about him. He knows Laurance is foolish and naive, but Laurance still gives him hope.

->Vylad appears cold and mysterious. This is interesting. Especially if you compare him to his mystreet counterpart, who acts totally different.

->His relation to his family members. I can't help but wonder what his childhood was like. And if it was Garte or Zane who murdered him. Zane supposedly ignored him a lot of the time. How did Vylad deal with this?

Also, it's ironic that Zane is a priest and shadowknights are somewhat demon like, but Vylad's a better person between the two of them(which isn't hard but still).

->Vylad is calm yet his actions are way less restricted and calm then you'd expect. He decides to summon a God, he never cares to mention that she is a god, he decides not to disclose secrets unless he's asked. There's some hidden chaos under his calmness and restrained nature.

->He thinks so very little of himself, he doesn’t see himself as the person he was before anymore. He avoids people because he is convinced he'll only make things worse for them. He is convinced he isn't human at all anymore, and doesn’t feel anything.

Yet he cries so hard when Aphmau tells him Garroth died, yet he is willing to go through extreme lengths(closing the nether portal amd summoning a god) to ensure his safety. He is willing to go out and safe his mother. His actions show he does still truly care.

->his overidealisation of Garroth is interesting too, there's a scene where he talks about how Garroth would never get caught up in his emotions like this. Yet this is false, Garroth does all the time, more often then him. This is interesting.

And did he ever idealise Zane like that? What was their bond like?

->Vylad loses every battle he's in and I think that's funny

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[funnyscienceman]

my favorite favorite favorite part about the singed = corin reveck thing is the fucking nier shadowlord of it all. the fact that it would mean singed had a hand in the creation of not one, but *two* characters whose stories are about doing good or trying to do good and losing (or risking losing) their humanity in the process.

orianna not giving two shits if going down to zaun might hurt her. not regretting it one bit, just immediately working her ass off to save her own life, and then just giving her dying dad the last piece of her physical humanity —her HEART — whether he wanted it or not.

viktor not giving a damn about piltover, about jayce, going fuck it all even if it might hurt. going through with the glorious evolution, turning himself into a fucking machine — to save himself, to help others. the fact that he was SO READY to throw in the towel and let himself die after what happened to sky.

it's the idea that SINGED played a pivotal role in these two's formative years — singed, as in the guy who'd burn a person's home to the ground and kill their mother just so he could experiment on them. the guy who'd torture his test subjects half to death if they didn't cooperate. the guy willing to keep a dying animal on excruciating life support just for his own research. it's the fact that he can do, has done, and will continue to do all these horrible things with not even a *shred* of remorse — and also still pick up a child's lost toy and return it to them, asking with genuine interest, "you built this? why aren't you playing with the others?"

i really don't know how to articulate this without going in circles, but like. the fact that he's only in it for himself is EVERYTHING. how people just keep going to him for help and he is NOTHING but unequivocally honest. he'll do the thing. he'll give you the drug, or save your dying daughter, or whatever the hell else. he'll warn them, and then leave them to make their own decision.

"Sometimes death is a mercy," he warns Silco. Silco says back, "She can take it," so alright. If you say so. Not my problem.

"I must warn you, if you take this path, they will despise you. Love and legacy are the sacrifices we make for progress. It's why I parted ways with Heimerdinger."

"Jayce will understand," Viktor says.

Singed doesn't even rebuke him, put him down, nothing. Just a simple, "Perhaps." An, "Eh, maybe. Only one way to find out ig"

(He doesn't even make Viktor pay him back, btw. He doesn't say a thing about him running away all those years ago. Unless for some fucking reason that was omitted, but i'm choosing to take s1 as-is here, disregarding s2 entirely)

He DOESN'T CARE about anyone else, is the thing. He could not give any less of a shit beyond whatever he or they have obligated to each other. He doesn't hold Viktor running away against him. He doesn't fight back against silco holding a fucking knife to his neck beyond glancing between him and it and just plainly answering his questions. (He has his pinkie out when holding stuff like bottles and i think that's the funniest piltie shit ever)

So like it makes PERFECT SENSE and also NO SENSE that he's significantly responsible for possibly the most moral Piltover champion (Orianna) and the most moral 'bad guy' from Zaun (Viktor). Both of whom are humans-turned-machines, while — possible chem augments aside — he himself is still pretty much entirely human. The fact that he's the most inhumane among the three of them.

It's like Vik and Ori took after the 'going all the way to the ends of the earth for your goal' part of him, the 'i am well aware of the circumstances and have decided fuck it we ball' part of him, and disregarded his apathy entirely. acting *against* it, sometimes, going behind his back to help a chemical disaster in zaun, even if he's already forbidden it. shutting down all of your own efforts to save your life after it kills someone who isn't you.

giving him your heart, even if he quite possibly didn't want it. Not even giving him room to make a choice, never talking to him about it, never bringing it up. Ori realizes there's no other option and just. Does It.

I. Have lost my mind over this fucking character fmekdjdjc (i am so worried for season 2)

[felikatze]

ysee playing part 2 over and over again; it's like diet speedrunning. you get better and better at killing shades, your singleminded focus becomes reaching the shadowlord, and yonah, as fast as possible. it's an apt reflection of nier's narrow determination. he sacrifices everything to save yonah, even when he's told facing the shadowlord is tantamount to suicide. the loading screens factor into this, as well. they show you yonah's diary entries, with new ones being added as late as playthrough 3. everytime you cross an area, you are made to think of yonah. you cannot get through the game without constantly thinking about her. i feel, the game's relative lack of fast travel and huge amount of backtracking actually works in the plot's favor. this is nier's life; always running back and forth on aimless quests all because of yonah yonah yonah.

subsequent playthroughs add context to boss encounters. they are as tragic as you are. you already know that shades are human souls. you already know that you do not have one. is it right for shades to enact violence on replicants? of course not. nier's love is what drives the entire game, what drives the entire world, to ruin. but the shadowlord is your soul. he loves yonah as much as you do. are you right to kill them? of course not. was it worth it?

the last two endings are really interesting in this.

ending A doesn't tell you what happens at all. all you know is that nier and yonah are reunited. ending B doesn't tell you what happens at all. all you know is that the shadowlord and yonah are reunited.

inside the shadowlord's keep, nier already regrets involving his friends. he almost gives up after losing emil and the king of facade, but kaine motivates him to keep going. kaine is the only friend he has left. emil is dead. the king is dead. devola and popola are dead. who else do you have? you have yonah.

there's a choice to be made here. do you want to lose everything, or do you want to lose your chance to be with yonah again?

i don't know where i'm going with this. i just have emotions about nier replicant.

TIME TO REPLAY THE SHADOWLORD'S KEEP FOR THE FIFTH TIME AND THEN I'M DONE YEEHAW

[ihearasound]

Nier Ending E thoughts below. I tagged it with all possible spoiler tags, so if you still see this and haven't reached it, keep scrolling!

I honestly think that humanity was doomed the moment they started relying on a young desperate boy without paying him any of the respect he deserves. The fact that they had to do that already shows that the whole project was a failure. Replicants eventually developed their own sense of selves, so merging Gestalt and Replicant was impossible the moment replicants started developing past their intended use. So honestly, humanity was doomed the moment the grotesquery queen descended on Tokyo.

The Shadowlord was a faint glimmer of hope, but even if Nier didn't kill him, I'm sure something else would have gotten into the way of the merging. So pinning the blame on Nier and his friends is nonsense imo. Yes they extinguished that faint glimmer that with a miracle could have turned it all around. But I don't think anyone really expected a miracle.

Ending E confirming that yes, their journey was useless is true, but it wasn't meaningless. Everyone was doomed to die eventually, but Kaine, Nier and Yonah died knowing they were loved. Their lives were changed for the better. Yes it is built on a mountain of corpses. But in the end, that's the tragedy of it all. Because nobody could communicate with each other.

You can't change the world and make it better with a single person. Nier alone couldn't have saved the world, and Nier alone couldn't have destroyed it. Change starts with small steps, in your own actions. The group changed each other's lives for the better, and just like everyone else, they would eventually die. But at least they'd die knowing they were loved, and knowing they were worth that love.

Emil is hurting after an eternity, but he keeps his friends alive with his memory. He's lonely, but he's the one that makes sure that his friends efforts weren't as much in vain as everyone wanted them to believe

I like that Ending E says "fuck that" to the grand tragedy story that the game spins, and instead centers it back on personal stories woven between friends. The Project was always destined to fail one way or another. But nothing ensured the groups happiness, they had to make it happen themselves.

I still love the tragedy of the game, because it's every on point. But whenever peoples only conclusion is "it was all useless anyway" I get a bit bummed out, because ultimately it wasn't.

[obeymesideblog]

MC shows Digimon to the Demon Brothers

I love Digimon and my favorite Digimon is Beelzemon, I had to write this.

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MC: (They actually just wanted to show Levi one of their favorite Anime but the other brothers stuck along for some reason)

Lucifer: So this is a show about humans and some digital creatures?

MC: Yeah, it's one of my favorite shows. I watch it since I was a child.

Satan: They put "digi" in way to many words. That sounds stupid.

MC: But they are cool and cute! My favorite Digimon is Beelzemon.

Belphegor: Beelzemon? That sounds like Beelzebub.

MC: Well, yes! The name is inspired by Beelzebub. Actually in the show there are the "seven great demon lords" which are all inspired by the seven deadly sins and the seven most powerful demons.

Satan: You mean... us?

MC: I guess, yes.

Asmo: Oh my devil! I need to see me! I'm sure I look awesome!

MC: *shows Asmo a picture of Laylamon.*

Asmo: Wow, I'm a girl! And hot! Not as hot as the me right here but hot! And look at my X Version! I'm totally awesome!

Levi: *looks at Leviamon*

Levi: Why do I look like that?

Satan: Well, you ARE a giant sea monster.

Levi: But I look better than that! Why is my body so small but my tails and mouth so big? And why all the rainbows? Is that like in the manga in which the mangaka always draw rainbows near the character to allude that the character is gay? Is my Digimon me gay?

MC: I... I don't think so...?

Satan: *looks at Daemon*

Satan: I'm... so.... at least my X form looks strong

Mammon: God, your Digimon you looks so ugly!

Satan: *Get's angry and show Mammon a picture of Barbamon*

Satan: At least my Digimon me is not some old fart! You are way uglier than I am!

Mammon: Oh shut up!

Asmo: Boys! Boys! Don't you see that I'm the prettiest, no matter what you do?

Beel: *Since MC said Beelzemon is their favorite he watches scenes from him*

Mammon: That version of Beel doesn't seem hungry at all!

Beel: So... I'm evil and try to kill everybody?

Beel: *sad*

MC: At first yes, but Beelzemon realized that he's wrong and he even try to make amends for his wrongdoing. In the end even the girl whose partner he killed forgave him.

Beel: So I'm good at heart?

MC: Yes.

Beel: *smiles*

Mammon: You're a demon, why do you want to be good at heart?

Beel: At least my Digimon isn't totally bad and it's MC favorite!

Belphegor: *Looks at Belphemon*

Belphegor: My Digimon is just like me. You better let us keep sleeping.

Asmo: You're sleeping mode is really adorable... well, not as adorable as me.

Beel: Psst! Belphie! Do you think our Digimon selfs are also twins?

Belphegor: *laugh*

Belphegor: We will always be brothers. Even when we turn into Digimons.

Lucifer: *Totally silent. Looks at Lucemon*

MC: Lucifer? Are you alright?

Lucifer: Why am I a little angel? I look like the chihuahua!

MC: Yeah, but you are truly evil and you have different modes.

Lucifer: My other mode looks like some half angel, half demon and the other one is an angel again! What the heck? This show is bullshit!

Lucifer: *leaves*

MC: But you forgot the Shadowlord Mode... I guess he can't hear me anymore...

MC: Beel wanna watch how your Digimon turns into a good Digimon?

Beel: Sure!

[lecliss]

Ya know first playthrough knowing Yoko Taro's 'lesson' in Nier is more or less "It's kinda fucked up that video games praise you for killing. Who you view as the enemy still has thoughts and feelings and emotions just like you. And no one really wins in war because it causes both sides to suffer." is like, meh whatever. Like I get it. I think it's something that should be explored in video games. But also, we all know this. We all know murder and war are bad. And we all know no one's actually getting hurt when you kill in a video game. But second playthrough of Nier being able to understand what the Shades are saying, even tho I knew all the details in advance, is like, really hitting me now. I don't wanna kill Gretel knowing the small Shades are his friends and he's trying to tell me not to hurt them. Video game or not, I don't wanna do this. This hurts. I feel bad for Gretel. He already lost Hansel and now this. And it's gonna be the same thing with every boss. Im gonna feel bad for Louise. Im not gonna wanna kill Beepy. I will cry finally knowing whatever Shadowlord has to say in the end. Yoko Taro was right.