#i don't need a babygirl to grovel i just need him to justify himself
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Your idea that a character has to self flagellate themselves and grovel and become meek to be redeemed and loved is very Christian coded and extremely boring
#messages from knave#wheres the spice#you also dont see this bullshit in anime fandoms because no one who watched dragon ball is holding anyone up to ZUKO for comparison#not after all that weird bullshit my man piccolo did#him dykng was NOT redemption it was a PLOT OBSTACLE!!!#Im not into the idea of groveling for redemption lmao sorry#i don't find that cathartic#if a character thought that they were right and good their whole life and then they spend the next season and a half#not challenging a single person or standing up for themsevles or asserting their growth at all in the narrative then that's boring and#manipulative to me. i feel like the author is manipulating me#LOOK ME IN THE EYES.#if you need all of your blorbos to be forgiveable in order to be enjoyable then you are BORING#if you require someone to besase themselves to earn your forgiveness then you're kind of an ASSHOLE#i don't need a babygirl to grovel i just need him to justify himself
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