#i don't like thw at all but i'm not gonna allow misinformation to be spread about it
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Something I often see in discussions regarding Hiccup wanting to change people's minds, is him trying to change Grimmel's being accepted as a part of the story, and it being used as an example of Hiccup's flaws. Except, if my memory serves me correctly, that never actually happened.
Prior to the final battle, Hiccup and Grimmel have three interactions ; when they first meet, when Hiccup & the gang try to capture him, then when Toothless & LF get taken. Not once, or in any of the few times where he's mentioned outside of his scenes, is the idea of changing Grimmel's mind brought up. Hiccup does not attempt to have a conversation about it with neither Grimmel nor the other characters.
In the third movie, Hiccup's motive to change people's minds and get them on Berk's side was removed. It feels like a bit of retcon, because I don't remember anything about Hiccup saying he's not gonna repeat his mistake with Drago.
#i don't like thw at all but i'm not gonna allow misinformation to be spread about it#especially if it's used for the “hiccup in 2nd & 3rd movie is stupid for being a peacekeeper he should be killing enemies at sight” argumen#eh this was gonna be longer but i feel like this gets my point across enough. if i continued it would probably turn into me complaining -#- about writers being lazy to explore the idea of someone who wants to change people for the better#and how the narrative went from dragons and humans to dragons against humans#hiccup#hiccup haddock#httyd#how to train your dragon#all this fandom does is lie smh
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