#i don't have anything against solo stans i totally get it if you like only one member

[ihamtmus]

i'll never ever understand why jimin solos seem to hate hobi the most and why hobi solos hate jimin so much because 1) the two are literally THE best friends??? like they're besties who adore each other idk what to tell you jihope is THE duo of the century how can you not love seeing them together 2) everyone knows i love hobi the most and he has my whole heart and i also love jimin BUT even if i didn't love jimin and wanted to say something bad about him i don't think i could because all i'd need to do is think about hobipalooza and then i'd remember i owe jimin my life. like i will NEVER forget what he did. i get it might not be enough for solos to like jimin just because hobi likes him but idk how they can feel anything other than gratitude towards that angel, especially after hobipalooza

[sizzlingpatrolfox]

Hello, I hope you're doing well. I want to ask a question since you said you're in fandom for years now, I'm seeing this whole mess of jimin wants to go solo Vs not. I don't know whether he said anything about his solo career in past, when I got into fandom I saw that he said he wants to be in BTS for 20yrs (if I remember correctly) but again I saw suga and recently Kookie also said on the same lines of wanting to be with group as well so why this blowing up where I'm seeing or getting vibes that some fans really hell bent on saying he doesn't want/not interested in solo work? So if you remember did he said anything like that in the past? Or just fans/disguised antis spreading lies? Thank you :)

- I always laugh when I see fans say “jimin wants to be with them forever he’ll never leave” hmm from the looks of things he might be the first to jump ship. They also thought he wouldn’t be the first to get tattoos.

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Hiii.

I don't know where to start, honestly. Feels like it's a topic that could be talked about from a few different angles and I also really respect everyone's opinions, like anon 2, even if I don't share the same sentiment.

To my knowledge, this reply in a fansign post it back in 2016 is pretty much the only time Jimin has ever alluded to wanting or thinking about a solo career.

Some may also use the argument that he has said talked about armys and fans separately, as if he was talking about fans of his alone. Personally, I think he just meant people who aren't hardcore BTS stans but still like them, so regular fans. I do think tho that he has created a brand with his 13; he's not stupid, he knows we know he associates himself with the number, and he knows we also associate him with the number. It's the reason he put that number in the hoodie and in his earrings. Even if he initially didn't intend for it to become a thing, it has caught on and he knows it and has embraced it. It is a personal brand.

To begin with, a solo career doesn't mean leaving the group. You can have, in fact, most idols do have a solo career on side of being a member of a group. Namjoon and Yoongi have had solo careers since 2015.

There's an element of ego to the whole discussion, to be honest. For some reason, the fandom has taken it against Jimin solo stans. It's always been this way, and I don't think I'm even exaggerating. Do you see Jungkook solos or Taehyung solos or even taekookers getting mass quoted and laughed at, as much as Jimin solos do? No. It's always PJMs the center of every solos discussion. Even jikookers acknowledge other solos only when it's ship stuff. For some reason, army has decided PJMs are the root of all evil and they deserve to die meanwhile for taekookers and other akgaes is "block and report blablabla". I don't know if they've even realized yet that it was JK solos th akgaes taekookers the ones who've been trying to create and spread the voice about Jimin's "scandals". This thing with the man credited in Filter? I've seen taekookers/JK stans/TH stans using it as something Jimin should be held responsible since late 2020. They've been trying to pin it on Jimin for a good couple of years now.

The very same "army" has somewhat ostracized Jimin from the concept of a solo career. So PJMs can't say that Jimin would have be great as a solo act but "army" is totally allowed to say stuff like this. Yes, it's from 2018 but the same discourse keeps getting repeated and passed on even today in 2022.

(It's pretty clear to me exactly whose stan this was).

I can't possibly link every tweet that i find, sorry (I just typed Jimin solo career into the search bar) but for years "army" has had no problem talking about everyone having their own solo careers, except for when it comes to Jimin.

Everyone is looking out for their own interests, solos want to see Jimin do everything he's capable of and shine in everyway, which I agree with, while armys want to do everything in their power to keep the ot7 going on forever and ever. Like I've said, solo careers don't mean the group's disbandment, rapline already have solo careers, they've had them since 2015 and it's accepted and even celebrated. I guess within the maknae line, there's competition between them and armys don't like competition if they can't control it. So Yoongi and Namjoon and Hoseok solo careers are okay because they will all do relatively similar on streams and charts, etc. but maknae line stans will try to up-do each other everytime, and in turn, they up-do the group's achievements, too. You know that billboard song hashtag, I've seen armys say that they should push back against Jimin's stans and keep using the butter hashtag to protect the group's artistry and not let it be overshadowed by a member's work. Do they realize how insane they sound. Butter. Hashtags. A song that was released a year ago and half the fandom hated. Acting like Jimin is the competition. With you is so much better than butter objectively speaking. Rapline are on the bottom of the popularity list, if there was such a list. Maknae line are topping it, and armys actually feel threatened that anyone of them alone could be bigger than BTS. Like I've said, everyone's looking out after their own interests. Jikookers and shippers in general too will go batshit if Jimin or Jungkook ever have solo careers and they have solo schedules and we probably won't see them together again. If they don't enlist all seven, there's a chance next year or the next, that's exactly what's going to happen.

Jimin would never leave BTS. Even if he wants out, for whatever reason, he wouldn't walk away from it as it's still going. He would wait for it to run its course and once it's all been said and done, he would move on. He wouldn't leave while the machine is still running. He cares too much about BTS, about everyone in the band, he has built a life around BTS. He geniunely loves the team. As anyone, he might be exhausted just because that's how life is, and he maybe doesn't agree with things the company wants them doing, but that's the business. I would bet all of them don't agree with everything the company says. They don't even agree with each other sometimes.

Jimin says he wants to be with BTS because he loves it and everything it encompasses. For now, that's enough for him. If Taehyung or the rapline feel like they can show more, and aren't satisfied with what they're doing as members of BTS, then that's also on them and it's valid if they want to try out different things and release additional music that they feel, represents them better than BTS music.

Something interesting, is that apart from Yoongi, the rest of the members really don't have that much "official solo work" and the few stuff they have, it actually did relatively and barely good on charts and all that. But still for some reason people think having two OSTs out means you're a consolidated solo artist. Newsflash, you're not. Everytime army see a PROD. SUGA is coming they lose their minds and then turn around and say Jimin loses everything if he's not with BTS.

Hoseok seems only interested in collabs as long as he can include them in his work. So far, he has never had a song for another artist like Yoongi has. Yoongi won't keep being an idol once or if ever BTS is over, he will stay producing and featuring in other people's songs, and releasing his own solo stuff every now and then just as he has been doing. When Yoongi songs get rejected by the company, or he himself makes a song and halfway realizes it doesn't fit BTS, he takes them to another artist. He took That That to PSY and PSY accepted it.

Jimin also makes his own songs, and sometimes they get rejected too, the difference is that Jimin doesn't give those songs to other people. Maybe he's keeping them for when he can release them on his own in the future or when BTS can use them. He also doesn't talk about them like Taehyung does, so people think he's not doing anything just because he doesn't go online to say "ooops so sad another song I have to delete everyone say byebye!!!". And everyone is omg he's so hardworking another song he won't ever release, he's such a dedicated solo artist, meanwhile Jimin is a lazy fuck who has no interest in music even if Tae has the same amount of released solo songs as Jimin and everything else he seems to throw it away. King.

I really don't have a problem with people thinking he sould be a solo artist, as well as I don't have a problem with those who think he isn't interested in a solo career. But it is a problem when people jump on any chance to undermine his character and talents only because he doesn't talk about when there's nothing to show for it. All of these years, Jimin has always released songs that nobody knew he was working on. And just because he apparently wasn't interested in recording a song for a drama at the time, it doesn't mean he would be opposed to his own solo song that he can show with a performance and MV and proper promo, like his solo songs in BTS discography.

I've talked about something similar before:

It's also valid if, when BTS time is over, Jimin doesn't want to be a celebrity or a singer dancer anymore; it's valid if he wants to maybe give himself the chance to meet someone and fall in love and settle down and have a family. Or if he just wants to get away from idol life in general, or if he wants to travel with friends around the world.

Honestly, for me, Jimin is right now the only one who could hold a concert by himself, or at least some type of show. I do think it would be a wasted opportunity of incredible talent and showmanship if he never shows more after BTS, but I also won't resent him if that's not what he wants or plans to do in the future.

😔 sometimes I worry about him.

[vlovers19]

he even captioned it "glasses", jk did something similar too last year and I'm sure Tk also have moments like these. Every ship has similar moments there are ships in other groups who call eo soulmates they even have matching tattoos, they also talk about their fights and private stuff, there are more things like this other ships also do, you just need to find them so I don't think it's something THAT deep we should be careful with these things. I'll be gald if you answer this ♥️ (2)

Hello, I thought a lot about this since this is quite a controversial ask but I'm only answering this because you really wanted my answer and I like how cirdially you put the ask.

Now, this ask is particularly interesting. No doubt. If they are doing all of these, then they are surely not trying to hide it. Like the kiss for instance. According to people, kissing till the extent their lips got swollen then posting the selca exactly after, really shows their boldness. It truly shows they aren't ready to hide anything about them dating especially being in such a country as theirs where they might receive back lash for their actions. Or people might just be looking for things that aren't there. Seeing their lips looked more unusual and concluding it's that way because they deep kissed each other. They risk being attacked by homophobic people living in that country. As you said, It has happened with several ships most especially Taekook and Yoonmin where people are convinced that they are dating. Showing evidences that they even kiss in public or on stage. Even going as far as showing evidences of 'hickeys' on their bodies. I have no words!

As for Jimin accepting the fact that he is dating Jk when a fan told him to prove it by posting a picture of glasses, I'm not surprised at all that he would accept to do that.

Tell that to Taehyung and you will get a totally different reaction. For example; one time when he was complaining about being unable to fall asleep, a Taekook fan asked him to look at Jk's photos which he likes then he would fall asleep. This was Taehyung's response "You had better get out of the imagination, it isn't good in there"

Now, with Jimin's personality, do you think he might do something like this or closely related to this? I think it's a big No! He would never want to disappoint any of his fans not even the shipping ones. I'm sure if they even told him to do the same with Yoongi or any of the other members, he would do it. I don't know about Jungkook. I think likewise because not too long ago, when he was asked by a male fan on vlive if he would accept to date him, Jk agreed without any hesitation. They know people like this so they will continue to satisfy us with it unlike Taehyung.

This is someone who apparently has a lot of 'kisses' with JK as well. Taekook is even more popular than Jikook. Many shippers around the world are even convinced that they are dating. Yet, Taehyung just did that without any reservations.

As for other ships calling each other soulmates or having matching tattoos, those aren't my concern. My concern is Vmin with their up and down relationship. They aren't like the other ships who are in sync with each other all the time. They say they are best friends but people often ask themselves "Do Jimin and Taehyung hate each other?" Many even concluded that they really hate each other. Even till today, many say their friendship is fake. Even when they where seen as soulmates before friends was released, it was immediately challenged by people.

They aren't like other ships who do a lot of fanservice and leave hints here and there. Because there are lack of these things, people end up questioning their bond. Solo stans of both Jimin and Taehyung use this as a motive to attack each other. You will never see 'evidence' of vmin kissing each other. The only thing you will get is fanservice on stage even though they claim to be best friends so when they talk about each other, reveal how they secretly spend time together without others knowing or when they mention about each other during their vlives, you will no doubt feel the affection they have for each other which is why it was a big deal when they released friends and proclaimed each other soulmates leaving everyone stunned because no one expected it. If Jikook or Taekook called each other soulmates, no one would be surprised. No one would question it but vmin did and the fact that friends was initiated by Jimin means a lot. He is aware of other ships he has with other members especially Jungkook and yet he did this as his own way of making a statement about his relationship with Taehyung because as far as i know, no one forced him. Big Hit didn't force him. This was what he wanted to do as though he had been planning for it. Unfortunately, till now, many believe that releasing friends was only a propaganda. That's why it is a big deal because other ships won't get such mixed reaction.

Honestly, we shippers are a little bit delulu because we all innerly wish that our ship is real. This is why i wasn't against the last anon who sent the ask. They had points that I agreed with because I'm a vmin shipper as well and there's something called freedom of speech where everyone is entitled to express their thoughts and opinions as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. Maybe they have little information about other ships, I don't know but i myself have a wide knowledge about other ships and yet, I still hold my ground that there's something suspicious about Vmin. They are just too secretive despite being best friends and proclaimed soulmates and I wonder why?

This is just my honest answer to this ask. Thanks for this💜

[ima-reylo]

Here are some quotes from JJ Abrams interviews (post tros) on people bashing his movie...

In summary he thinks it's because of not being able to please all fandoms/starwars fans and that people will always nit-pick a movie (especially a starwars movie.) In this day and age, people immediately express their anger on social media and go all out.

Does he really think that's why even movie critics are bashing his movie? And we wouldn't be outraged if you released a proper film. Tros is not a satisfying end to a 42 year saga and a poor addition to the franchise. Starwars fans that are split into fandoms (such as reylo or luke-stans) aren't just upset with what Jj's chosen to do that goes against Fan's preferences/wants, but what starwars stands for. He messed with the messages of starwars. When it comes down to individual preferences of each starwars fan, of course you can't please all and that's understandable. Just create a story plot that continues lucasfilm's legacy and message. Keep to the theme; stick to what starwars is and meant to be. Keep to what starwars fans fell in love with. I don't specifically mean plot wise because then we'd never get anything new... But stick to the morals/theme because that's what starwars fans love too.

He reused plots and ideas.. which you do to an extent... But his ending really dishonored the saga. Hope, love, and peace... Fantasy... Happiness... We were promised this but the ending did not deliver. There are videos on Twitter of JJ and his assistant trying to explain why they did this and that. (I'd pull them up but I don't know how oop..)

I could go into how he screwed up the end of the saga... But the point of this post is just pointing out how hypocrytical he is. Not only did he say he gets along with rian and likes tlj (even tho there is evidence that he doesn't like rian or tlj) he didn't even want to work with lucasfilm in making tros.

This article above is just talking about some of the beef behind the scenes...

The other point I'm making is that I'm really upset at JJ and I wish he'd process in his mind the fact he went against the core theme/morals of starwars.... By killing Ben solo (and I'm not saying this just cause I'm a reylo) and so on. That's why people are upset and that's the reason they have plenty of validation to hate tros. I should have gotten more evidence for this post (but I've seen stuff either on Tumblr or Instagram or Twitter) and there's even a interview with lucas's opinion on endings of movies. Jj's ending totally contradicted Luca's views by killing a character and making a tragic ending. Rey may seem all fine and happy, but she's literally back where she started. Alone on a desert planet...

Summary of what I'm saying: this clown, jar jar Abrams, doesn't realize why people are hating his movie. Maybe it's entertaining for people who aren't into starwars and it's their first movie, but as someone who knows Ben solos character, Rey's character, and just a minor starwars fan in general, I'm outraged what he did to those characters and how he ended the saga; he contradicted lucasfilm and what starwars is about.

That's my rant on tros backlash. WE HAVE VALIDATION FOR BASHING IT. JJ doesn't think so, some fake fans might agree with him, but :// reading Twitter about tros makes me went to yeet into the sun.