#i am VERY open about having had to 'prove i'm lgbt enough' because i am bisexual
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We need to discuss the vagueposting. Ranting about medicpauling is valid and not the issue, however. It's miss p x merc, an older man/young woman, and there's been/are fans into heteronormative and straight up predatory dynamics. Hating it and wanting to avoid it is understandable.
But publicly gossiping on your blog to your followers about shippers' orientations based on the pairing and how they draw Medic, where its active creators on Tumblr cannot be counted on one hand, is not on. There's a difference between describing what demographics are attracted to a ship vs stating the few fanwork creators belong to it.
There were only two people in the tags last year you could be referring to. Assigning people straight vibes or trans vibes or gay vibes assigns stereotypes. It erases identities, and potentially ends with someone having to justify depicting non-het relationships and experiences by outing themselves or proving they're LGBT+ enough. I don't want to go through that, and neither should anyone else.
Literally what the hell are you talking about
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alottamoney · 3 years ago
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This is very frustrating because you can't be messaged.Nevertheless I would like to share something very serious with you. These are strictly speculation. Firstly I would like to clear my position with Taekook.Long story short: I believe them.
Quite recently I stumbled upon a theory about Taekook's coming out process that seemed very logical to me.The summary of the theory is, the art that BTS has been releasing from the beginning,or from 2015-16 to be exact, have been quite evidently inspired by Taekook's journey from discovering themselves, to then losing themselves, to then finally be able to find their happiness and true-self with each other.From Stigma, to DNA,to FAKE LOVE.A lot of BTS songs are talking about a hurtful love filled with sadness.Also, the kind of songs Taekook listens to and covered from the beginning traces that journey from sadness to happiness.From the official songs,Singularity, The truth untold,Heartbeat,House of Cards,Whalien,Make it Right to name a few.It's justified to assume that BANGPD supports them and love them.But if it is so then why the separation from time to time?According to this theory it is to prepare the ARMY very slowly to getting used to Vkook.We have seen since 2017 taekook is used to promote the Album the most,to hype it up,and once the Album's released,it's the watchful eyes again.BangPd was very supportive of Jkwon,a kpop idol who likes drag.But he also told him that you cannot throw a stone into a still lake and expect everyone to be fine with it.It will take a long time to get the water to settle down.What bangpd is doing with Taekook is he is engineering a very long process of getting people used to the message of acceptance through messaging of their album,love myself,be yourself.He is creating a generation that is used to these ideas so that when that stone lands,there will be no ripple.
Now nitpicking time.Tae and BangPD share a mutual dislike for each other.It's not a secret.Because Tae made it obviously clear on many occasions. Everyone in the kpop world knows it.Starting from Taekook's relationship, V was being portrayed as a non-essential member.Idk if it was a coincidence,but taekook is the king of coincidence and the timing somehow matches.It got to the point where he had only 1/2 lines in a song. If you know Tae's journey, you would know and I'm not gonna elaborate the extent to which it was bad.I also get the feeling he doesn't like Kookie's personality(he doesn't respect him) because he has a psychological need for Tae built in him.The golden Child of BTS.If BangPD is supporting Taekook and engineering their smooth coming out,and taekook are in on it,then why do they seem displeased when separation happens?It has happened so many times that there is no other option to consider than them being unhappy with the situation.
My pessimism will take over from this point.It's about money in the end.I personally believe BangPD supports lgbt.Before elaborating on my point I want to present someone else's viewpoint who I had a discussion with.They are even more pessimistic than me.A bit hilarious too.According to them if BangPD really supported Lgbt he would not try to corner Tae like that.It's an unwritten code among lgbt that you hold each other's relationship up despite your personal things.According to them BangPD used all these messages for marketing purposes and used Taekook and the members as a gimmick for it.That's why he was okay with Jikook but not taekook.Tae did not like jikook happening on stage to the extent it was happening but it was given a free pass in the name of it being just a job.According to this person,an lgbt supporting person would never do something like that to a lgbt relationship.Scary stuff.
Now my elaboration : BangPD is not necessarily protecting Taekook or BTS,he is protecting his investment. He wants to engineer a smooth path for their coming out but only under his term?I know before military it's unthinkable and even after that, my opinion is Taekook are not the declaring in a statement type couple.They prove by actions,not by words.That's why I am a bit confused as to what pd's thoughts are regarding Taekook future.All I know is that Tae does not like it when someone instructs him how to behave in his own relationship.He's been throwing middle fingers left and right to whoever can see.If they are not on the same page with Pd's plan for them,then....what?On a sidenote: I am sure JJK and KTH1 mixtapes are getting delayed due to profit sharing issues.You just know they are going to break every record out there.V said in 2019 that his mixtapes were ready for release that year,and he wanted to see how ARMY react to it and then he uttered something very interesting"It's going to be delayed anyway"..then he laughed in the brattiest way possible at the staffs while spoiling 😂 BH couldn't get that sweet sweet money from "Sweet Night".Going back to my previous point,it really seems like everything is connected to money.Does BANGPD want a situation where if Taekook have to come out,whether by accident or something else,he can be there to take advantage of the situation?Like saying he supported them all along,and the money will come in as support for them pours in.Idk how that will a viable situation.For one, Tae will consider eating poison before agreeing to letting PD use his personal relationship for circus,and it's fair to assume BangPD knows it.Then what about the possibility that PD really is like a strict parent,who wants the best for his children even though his methods are torture.Did he think taekook not being a couple was in their best interest?Taekook's interest/BTS' interest?Like I said, I personally believe pd supports lgbt.He doesn't like Tae's personality,his rebellious streak.I could be wrong but would his personal dislike move him to create tough situation for taekook even though he supports lgbt.It seems unlikely because wouldn't it create unhealthy environment within the group,pd must have known this.Or did he think it's just a teenage romance,one push and it will break easily.All of these possibilities because all I have gotten that TK are not happy when their relationship is micromanaged.
Now there's Lisa in JK's Vlive correcting his steps in Euphoria.Guess we are all delulu at this point.I really think that was Lisa though.Don't ask.I'm sorry for this long ask.Please share with me what you think.
Hi anon, I'm happy that you shared your views on Taekook. My opinion on this topic might be disappointing but I'll share anyway.
First, I don't have a coming out theory because I don't think any BTS member would willingly reveal any sort of romantic relationship because of the fan frenzy around them.
I don't analyze MVs, lyrics, and such because these things involve a lot of input from a lot of people: producers, composers, lyricists, designers, stylists, choreographers, etc. It's much more than just BTS sharing personal stories and trying to find clues about the members' private lives from them is a pointless venture according to me. The covers and song recommendations made by Tae and Jungkook in the earlier years, like you pointed out, have more weightage in this regard.
About Bang and his relationship with Tae and Jungkook: I think there is a large gap between fandom perception and what has actually been shown. While I don’t think Tae is Bang’s bias, I also don’t think he dislikes him or is out to sabotage him. It is even possible that him “favoring” Jungkook does not extend beyond his potential marketability. He seems indifferent for the most part to them as individuals. Assuming Tae and Jungkook are in a relationship, I agree that maybe Bang did not take it seriously until he had to. He could also have done a lot more damage than just separate them on screen or cut them out of content so I don’t think he micromanages them outside work (or may he tried and Tae and Jungkook are just that inseparable🤷🏻‍♀️). He might even consider it beneficial, not in a direct financial manner but in that it makes them easier to control and monitor- two less NDAs to worry about. It doesn’t help that Tae and Jungkook are also very erratic in a way that can’t be attributed to company micromanagement. That could explain some inconsistencies, they’re also figuring it out (and they’re a bit dramatic about it in my opinion).
Jokwon hasn't said anything about his sexuality explicitly, I don't know if this counts as an example of Bang's support of the LGBTQ community but he seems open-minded enough and he hasn't said or done anything homophobic. Tae and Jungkook though are part of his biggest cash cow so, while he might not be homophobic it's not a stretch to assume he has different standards for them vs Jokwon who isn't signed to his label. About using the members and Jikook as a gimmick, I think that is simultaneously complicated but also not that deep and it’s probably a separate discussion; in short, I don’t think Bang is thinking farther than taking advantage of and promoting a popular (easier?) ship but it seems to have affected the relationship of the members involved (Disclaimer: I don’t think that all permutations and combinations of relationships between the members have a possibility of being “real”. I don’t think it’s an everyone loves everyone situation.)
Will Bang or the company try to take the credit if Taekook are outed by accident? The way they act, I feel like they are pretty confident that no such thing will happen. In the very minute chance that it does, I think they'll wash their hands of Taekook and let them fend for themselves. I don’t think they’ve done the groundwork to benefit from such a situation nor do I think they are making it easy for Taekook. The narratives put forth in In The Soop and other content do the opposite of cushioning the blow. There’s no overall consistency and it’s really hard to predict how such things will play out, so I don’t know if they have any plans centered around Taekook right now much less back when they discovered that Taekook might not be typical bandmates. 
I'm not sure what you meant by that last paragraph but why Lisa?
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mewtymew · 7 years ago
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I guess this is my second coming out post? So, I'm bi. 😎
It's taken me a long time to get here, but this last year has given me many experiences that helped me begin to accept that I may be bisexual. One such experience that pushed the line for me was actually very recent. The 2017 Portland Pride Parade. Most of my life I've identified as heterosexual, but began to question things at about 12 or 13. Then it became I'm straight with a thing on the side.. I didn't know what to do with these other feelings. At that time, I felt I wasn't worthy of calling myself bi because I wasn't sure if I could actually love a woman (emotionally and physically). I'm still not, but I sure know now that the attraction is there. It's not a promiscuous thing either. It's just there. Last I was on here, I was identifying as heteroflexible/bi (which I still feel a part of and love all mah little flexies). I've reflected on my feelings a lot while I was gone, and although it's an ongoing process, I'm learning a lot more about my sexuality and where I stand. It's still difficult though because my feelings for women seem so fragmented, yet I'm totally confident in my attraction to men. Like I will get crushes on girls that feel very different and less intense than the ones I've had on men. I've learned over the years that bisexuality isn't 50/50 in love, attraction, and physical relationships. So I'm starting to understand my attraction to women, and potentially other genders, better. The thing is, despite these feelings and doubts, I think I'm quite a bit more attracted to women than I previously believed. I'm finally having those "look back on life moments and connect the dots and omg heteronormativity has affected me!" moments. I'm becoming more comfortable with calling myself bi, and the 2017 Portland Pride Parade was like a slap in the face. I've been to a few parades in the past but always came as an ally. I remember just wanting to be as supportive as I could, and shoving my own questioning aside for the sake of being a good ally, or whatever. Recently, I've also had a lot of "oh snap, am I bi??" Moments. Despite that, I went to the parade thinking it'd be like all the other times, with the exception that I was more in questioning and not quite attending as an ally. My boyfriend accompanied me, being fully aware of my questioning. He's in the same boat. Things started out pretty normally, in regards to myself, but then something happened that had never happened to me at these parades before. I just stated crying like a baby. I felt so overwhelmed. The amount of love and happiness in the air was intoxicating. There were bi pride flags mixed in with all the other flags. There were bi groups in the parade. Our mayor was even in the parade, and seeing him there supporting the lgbt+ community of Portland made me cry even harder. My boyfriend just held onto me even tighter. My last relationship was an abusive one that ended in a lot of biphobia that made me feel like I had to prove I was straight, and that my attraction to women was not big enough to "qualify" as bisexual. Honestly the word bisexual didn't come up much. When I was brave enough to tell him I didn't love him or want to be in that relationship anymore, he used my questioning and lack of interest in him to accuse me of being a closeted lesbian. Because you know, I couldn't possibly not want to be with you because you're abusive. It's because I don't like men. Sure.. Anyways, the support and acceptance of my current boyfriend and the open atmosphere at the parade had me crying hard. It dawned on me why this hit me so hard. The realization that it is ok for ME to be bi and that I don't have to prove my sexuality to anyone. I'm just as bi as the next bi person. No two bisexual people are the same. Sexuality can be very fluid, and maybe there will be a time in my life when I find myself even more interested in girls. Although I'm in a relationship with a man, my attractions have not changed. I'm bi no matter who I date. I'm also monogamous as hell, and I hope my current relationship lasts a long time. Hopefully forever. Doesn't make me any less bi. I'm so happy I can finally begin to accept that. It's still a bit of a slow process, but I'm grateful to my boyfriend, and the lgbt+ community of Portland, OR. for making me feel safe enough to accept myself. This has been bottled up for quite some time, and unfortunately I'm closeted in real life. The only ones who know are my boyfriend and anyone at the parade who didn't mistake me for straight (I didn't have any pride stuff on but no one was like oh hey you're an ally). I can't come out to the rest of the world though until I can fully accept myself. The parade however was like WAKE UP YOU'RE BI! I needed that slap in the face
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