#his petrified arm is proof of that as well so it really isn't that impossible and it would make sense with the phoenix symbolism which
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no because if joshua is alive even if clive died he did it fullfiling his job as his shield do you guys understand 😩😩😩😩
#I'M STILL THINKING ABOUT FFXVI AGJSHSJS#someone save me i woke up crying#and also he's the phoenix!!!!#joshua 'even if my flames waver they'll never die' rosefield#let me be delusional#i would love to believe that clive lives to write the book and pick up the quill like harpocrates said but then the scene with jill and#torgal feeling his death while looking at the moon that they promised to look at together wouldn't have made sense#right???#i mean i have no idea#i just know i feel sad and torgal howling made it sadder#but it does make sense like#ultima wanted to use the ether to cast a rise spell#the believers thought it was to rise them to paradise but we find out that ultima planned to rise his bethrens from their eternal slumber#(death?) and build a new world!!!!#and clive used a part of his powers to heal joshua's body at the end before destroying the origin and magic maybe and all that jazz#his petrified arm is proof of that as well so it really isn't that impossible and it would make sense with the phoenix symbolism which#just is exciting because it makes sense!!!#i want to choose to believe that 😂#there's still questions left aaaaa#i want to know more about medicine girl#i actually like the theory that she's leviathan#i wish we had seen more of her#she showed so many times and it kind of made us believe she would be relevant at least for a quest but she just showed up to save dion#using just as in i was expecting more not that it's bad shsjsh#anyways i just wanted to say to me joshua is alive and jill and torgal have a part of clive with them through him too#no because torgal loosing his best friend is so sad pets aren't supposed to see their humans pass away 😭#okay bye#final fantasy xvi#ffxvi spoilers
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