#he'd want to know the history and science behind it not to wax poetic on how man has overtaken the gods haha
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amethysttribble · 4 months ago
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A strange question that came to me when rereading your lovely fanfic: what does Fëanor Blackfyre think of the word "valar" being used for men in Westeros?
Not strange at all! A very good question.
Hmmm, how much to say...
Feanor Blackfyre spent much of his life studying the 'higher mysteries' and trying to find answers to questions he had about himself (but he wasn't working with anything concrete for most of that time, unlike our boys). Linguistic study was, of course, a part of that, and I don't think he'd be Feanor is he hadn't tinkered with language and- perhaps- reversed engineered his own writing system. But he didn't know everything, and some of his conclusions were likely wrong.
Now, I've established in my fic that Sindarin has some similarities with Valyrian (mostly to explain some of the whoosy swooshy fantasy~ language similarities lol), but while Feanor's knowledge of Sindarin at the time of his death is certainly up to debate, for the purposes of this fic, he wasn't that familiar with it.
BUT, again, Quenya and Sindarin are divergent languages, there are some- distant- similarities there.
Hm. That's a whole lot of connections and not a lot anything really.
So where does that leave us? If Feanor Blackfyre had ever heard/thought of/ knew of the word 'Valar'- which is not a guarantee AT ALL- would he know what it meant in Quenya?
And if he knew what it meant in Quenya- how?- would he know the connotations that the people that word referred to meant to him?
And if he knew those connotations, would he know the etymology of that word? "Power, divine, god", and if he knew all that, would he know the etymology of "Vala" meaning man and "jaes" meaning god in Valyrian (yes, he would know this)? What about "balan" in Sindarin (meaning 'Valar)? And if he noticed all this, did he notice the other links between Valyrian and Sindarin, and what did he think of that and where did it come from?
This has devolved into 'If You Give a Mouse a Cookie', but lets be honest, words are cookies for Feanor.
What I'm trying to say is that there's a lot of pre-requisite knowledge required of Feanor here to even start addressing this question. I think the answer is less 'Feanor had thoughts and feelings that were philosophical and concrete' and more 'If Feanor had any idea there was something up with the word 'Valar', he would have a Charlie Day style conspiracy board in the back of his lab that he lectured to Rhaegar about every now and again'.
BUT TO ACTUALLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION: A fully remembering Feanor would... probably still have the conspiracy board, wondering what the cosmological, linguistic link between these languages are. He's writing his thesis on it as we speak, haha
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