#he probes and tests and pushes and torments with vash a lot like the scientist did with tesla

[yuhi-san]

I thought about that before but reading it like that is well. its true, though.

Vash and knives cannot understand each other at this point or talk about anything. And this here is such a major point in their relationship.

Knives assumes vash doesn’t understand. anything. Period. He sees him as too naïve to truly understand the world. To blind and brainwashed to be able to see the truth. Not smart enough to know what is the right thing to do. Not competent enough the properly assess the situation. Not strong or brave enough to actually do what needs to be done.

In knives mind, vash’s different approach to humans and way of thinking is born from nothing but vash’s lack of judiciousness, if you will.

Nothing vash says or thinks or feels (or claims to in knives mind) holds any value because if he truly understood anything at all, obviously he would agree with knives. It’s a very patronizing way to see things and it shows in how knives treats vash.

Both trimax and tristamp knives have this attitude of ‘im the only one who knows what is right and I will teach my clueless brother until he also understands.’

What differs, I think, is, hm. How they approach it, how it makes them feel? I will try and put it in words.

Trimax and tristamp Knives both torment vash. they both know what they do is tormenting him but they feel justified in a sense.

Trimax knives seems to take quite some glee in hurting vash at that point of the story. Cannot not immediately think of how delighted he was at vash’s pain after Wolfwood dies. Everything about how he acted when he cut off vash’s arm. The way he blamed him because after all this time vash did something knives disapproves of (going with that stranger). How he responds to vash’s distress about him killing the villager by almost gleefully suggesting, let’s kill some more. and yeah, vash is the one to shoot him first. Harmlessly in the shoulder and knives reacts be severing his arm and leaving vash.

Also the way he mocks him when they first meet during the fifth moon in the manga.

Trimax knives seems to be the variation of “me hurting you is valid because of the way you act.”

Tristamp knives on the other hand has more of a blatant disregard of vash. he seems more dismissive of vash already because he cannot use his gate so he feels vash is below him. And I don’t really cound his teasing as a kid here because, well, he’s a kid, sometimes they say mean things without it being a deep reflection of their morals. Knives here takes less glee in hurting vash. he doesn’t refrain from trying to hurt vash or anything, not at all. He’s just less delighted by vashs pain but more dismissive of it? He knows he’s hurting vash. by destroying jeneora rock, killing people in front of him and not to mention… well literally everything that happened in july. (and I want to eventually make a post about the moment where knives cut the rope and dropped vash in the tank because that was vital, in my opinion maybe even more so than when he forcefully opened his gate but more on that another time.) tristamp knives knows he’s causing vash pain but sees the problem for that with vash. yeah his actions hurt his brother but if vash were to truly understand the situation, he would know better than to feel hurt. he doesn’t view vash’s pain as valid because he feels vash is wrong about the way he feels.

Tristamp kinives is more the variation of “you shouldn’t feel hurt by what I do because my actions are valid”

Im not arguing if one of them is worse or more justified or anything. Just that both trimax and tristamp knives have a complete and utter disregard for vashs feeling and autonomy. They invalidate his choices, his opinion, his ideology. they feel almost entitled to vash as a person, body, mind or soul.

They just differ in that trimax knives thinks punishing vash for not being who and what he wants him to be is justified while tristamp knives also thinks that what he does to vash is justified, just not that it is as bad as vash’s reaction suggest (as I said, very dismissive or vash’s feelings).

Love that Vash is saying to his face that he grasps what the cube is and why he needs to get it out of here asap, and Knives still can’t hear him, still can’t see him as an individual, still cannot believe in a world where his brother’s competent