#he does admit to being a 'god who responds to desire and holds dominion over man'
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Sometimes I feel like ppl forget that Yaldabaoth’s deal was to functionally let the Phantom Thieves (as just Joker) police society unrestrained and that the “game” was manipulated from the very start
#p5#p5r#persona 5#persona 5 royal#granted i now have no idea what the velvet room's stance is#we have so little genuine Igor and Lavenza content that it's difficult to infer their goals aside from stop Yaldabaoth#like the obvious alternative is to just Not Do That and let society continue as is just without any Metaverse interference#bc Yaldabaoth returned the world to its state but let Joker keep changing hearts#the only weird factor here is the power of the masses to let themselves become distorted#Yaldabaoth's dubious as shit so I could believe that he's also lying and is influencing the masses to favor distortion#he does admit to being a 'god who responds to desire and holds dominion over man'#and he does want to rule society as its guide#the issue is that i can't tell if he wants that because he genuinely believes the world is better with a guide#or if he wants that because he just wants to STAY in control#i wish we could get feedback from Igor about what the better route would be#like if Igor had been there from the beginning would we still be changing hearts or?#cause Morgana is the one who tells us how to change hearts#is the issue that society is DEPENDENT on the PT for morality????#i still don't know that#but i'm just surprised at how much fandom content supports changing hearts#like there's very few fics where the PT *don't* change hearts
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