#haha connor ur so disgusting
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,,,,okay i know i just said i wasnāt going to talk about the deh movie but actually yeah imma talk about it for just a sec bc yāall actually make me legitimately distressed sajkfndsmjkgds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLQ_A0H1otcĀ i dont have the braincells to do a shot by shot analysis right now but hereās what weāre lookin at
under a readmore because ghhhhhhh
firstly, let me lead with this: yes, from what we know, thereās a lot of things wrong with this movie.Ā
the worst, in my humble opinion, being the bts treatment of the (very few) actors of color, and the lack altogether of any production team members of color. thatās something that should be acknowledged, talked about, and fucking dug into especially at the current fucking period of time weāre living in. itās unsurprising, but disgusting nonetheless, and it set this movie up for failure from the very beginning. iām a white person so by no means so i feel inclined or like i have any authority in saying what one should feel wrt all of that, however i will say if thereās to be a boycott in not watching this movie, that should 100% be the reason why. itās fully pocās choice whether or not to forgive the production team or give this movie a chance for the irredeemable shit it did in regards to handling the movieās production. the movie imo definitely doesnāt deserve their forgiveness, but again, that is not for me to say.Ā
thereās some little things too that i canāt fully think of off the top of my head - like, the whole making larry connorās stepdad thing fucking irks me, for example, but, like...... listen.
if you know me like at all, you know my favorite word is nuance.
so, iām going to say it outright: the way you people are approaching this three minute trailer shows literally.... none?? no nuance ??? is it no-nuance november over here or ???? like iām begging you iām BEGGING YOU to put aside your pre-determined prejudices against this movie and like stop pretending to be a renowned film critic for ten seconds because itās really not as outright fucking abysmal as you are saying!! and also itās possible to have opinions that arenāt completely fucking polarized to one side because guess what, the deh movie? a piece of media! what is the shit yāall are constantly preaching about having the ability to consume media critically ? because youāre trying to cancel a fucking trailer based on the contents of the trailer alone !!!!! hello !!!!!!!!
media is bound to be problematic. if yāall were as quick to judge any movie as you did this one, guess what you wouldnāt be watching any movies like ever <3Ā
anyway lets get into the parts that are probably going to get me cancelled lmaoĀ
ben platt - listen. LISTEN. listen i know heās too old to be reprising evan we ALL know heās too old to be reprising evan iāve heard this same argument since the announcement was made we get it we all know.Ā haha heās a grandpa yes bestie ur so right ur so funny wow. i do agree that we shouldāve maybe had a not-ben-platt evan moment but hereās some things to keep in mind: the arguments ofĀ āoooh ABF is right there !!!!!!ā 1. whoās to say he was available? 2. the environment of a movie is so, SO much different than that of a musical -- as much as you wanna pretend you know everything from just a trailer, thereās no way of knowing what scenes were added that mightāve made the movie like.. idk possibly more intense story-wise not even COUNTING the fact that just inherently a movie set is different than a musical one? like yes ben platt might be just being used as a device but thatās probably not the sole and only reason. Also, if i see One (1) more comment about his FUCKING HAIR š first of all itās not that deep like... if youāre so distracted by an actor having their hair different thatās on you, but going as far as to call it bad or distracting or being like Vehemently a way about it?Ā yāall i know itās most likely not your intention but that is literally just ben plattās natural fuckin ETHNICALLY JEWISH hair sajknfgkjds!!!! iām not the first to make this point, but like dsjnfkjdsg!??! yāall are being so mean about it and for WHAT? again, maybe not intentional, but it reads as like high key Very antisemetic and you should.... maybe not š³ be that way
connor. the thing about a trailer is that they donāt show you all the scenes because they want you to come see the movie. right? can we agree on that? all the connor scenes in the trailer had SEVERAL hard cuts, omitting a lot of the scene -- like the computer lab scene! we see the beginning of it, thereās a VERY obvious hard cut, and then heās running out! in my opinion my first watch through of this trailer i had a very likeĀ ā:// hmm all these actors feel a lil like dryā, but man oh man the comments ive seen about connor. holy shit guys. this boy gets 7 minutes of stage time in the actual musical, and the whole thing is we DONāT KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT HIM. not to burst your bubble, and i by no means hate connor, i love me some good connor lives fics and stuff, but everything we write with connor being alive? that is !! speculation on our part !!!! those are headcanons and us using the little context we have!! connor doesnāt have any significant development IN THE SOURCE MATERIAL that is being adapted into a movie !!! you 1. canāt fully judge a character with already limited screentime in a 3 minute trailer, 2. canāt really call what connor has canonically in the musical as in depth character development !! what is his arc then !!!! he pushes evan, goes to the computer lab, has an outcast loner kid moment, gets upset, takes the letter, DIES. sorry stans, thatās just how it is !! and, AND, everything in between, all the idiosyncracies, that depends on the actor playing connor! speaking of, you know who the actor is playing connor in the movie? thatās right, colton ryan!Ā so, i donāt know, maybe... have some trust in the process, in an actor who ALREADY has played connor on broadway???? and also trust that you will get more connor content then u are seeing from a 3 minute trailer!!Ā dhgnijsdg and some of the comments on like his appearance specifically? like are you really made that he doesnāt have long hair?? they kept his nails and his rings but nahhh the hair was apparently a MUST HAVE (even though like.. not all connor actors on broadway always had/have long hair but w/e)..Ā REGARDLESS. tldr on THATĀ ,Ā the movie would have to do a pretty shitty job if they want to take something from someone who doesnāt have much to begin with and i think yāall are being extremely harsh on this pointĀ
jared. honestly iām a bit worried too about the like... name change, because it does have the potential to be taking out some representation, but... they did change the name to fit the actorās ethnicity? itās a really [hmm] topic because, again, from a trailer and from what we have been told we donāt KNOW a lot of the context, but i think itās important to remember that uh.. jewish people arenāt just? always white ?? thereās a possibility they changed the last name to fit with the [ethnicity] while keeping him jewish?? ofc thereās the possibility that they Didnāt and ... again hm thatās its own thing altogether but just reiterates the point that you canāt knock a whole movie just based on the trailer. you canāt talk about things you know nothing about.Ā
alana. same thing as before, you canāt.... completely bash a character based on a 3 minute trailer. there was discussion about how she seemedĀ āshyā when talking to evan, which like.. maybe she is but also that scene was them talking in a library like if u actually take notice of whatās happening in the scene jdskngsd though i do share the general consensus with many others that she wonāt get a lot of screen-time but thatās neither here nor there š moving on
scenes and the setting. one of the things i was most like.. tentative about in regards to a switch from a musical to a movie was how they were like... going to do certain scenes? naturally, a lot has to be different when weāre going from a minimal stage set to an entire movie with like.. settings. there are going to be new scenes because a movie lends to have like, physical places that arenāt just [evanās bedroom] and [murphy kitchen] and [implied school]. so new scenes, new conversations, slightly different pacing.. this is all to be expected right like are yāall geneuinely surprised here or ........
thereās a lot we arenāt seeing yet because this is a TRAILER. again i already mentioned this re: connor but like... again, yāall are making some Claims that just... fucking outlandish. there are so many moments in the trailer that are very obvious Hard Cuts. you donāt have all the information yet. you are angry at a tiny fragment of something that is confusing you because you donāt have all the context. is there a chance that some of this shit is just genuinely Bad? yeah but you really cannot 100000% say it with your chest and gauge it without seeing the movie and understanding what that scene is in context. lowkey uhhh saw some jokes about the zoe scene in the car and :ā))) ? jesus? christ????
concluding thoughts because my brain hurts but like. you donāt have to like the movie. you donāt have to WATCH the movie. like all media if you choose to consume the movie you should do so with some CRITICAL THOUGHT. but, just like the novel (and i do not want to have any discussions about that i donāt care if you think itās good Or bad thatās not what this is about) you guys are going in this WANTING to believe itās bad and completely polarizing your thoughts on what this is going to be. yeah, maybe there shouldnāt be a movie. i genuinely think we couldāve gone without. but itās just a piece of media, itās not a progression like all your (musical is good, novel is bad, MOVIE IS WORSE OH NO) posts are suggesting. they are all just. different pieces of media stemming from a source. at the end of the day itās just a fucking movie. if you already hate it so much, guess what? you donāt have to watch it! you donāt have to put so much needless fucking hate into a 3 MINUTE TRAILER. you can stop being performative and dissing it for its poor treatment of POC while then going on to make fun of ben plattās hair and just targeting a different group like! please !!!
iām not trying to be a fuckinā advocate for this movie because thereās so much opportunity for it to suck, i do Not have high hopes for it, and iām not even really sure i want to watch it (i bought the novel when it came out and have yet to read it, and iām sure the movie will like.. elicit very similar vibes from me lsdngjkdsg like im just not uhhh feeling it) but yāknow what? watching the trailer did not bring forth the fucking onslaught of hatred in me that apparently has fuckin posessed all of yāall and like djnsgjksdg plagued my dashboard for this whole evening. donāt come into my inbox trying to like.. argue with me about this (preemptively im turning off anon because i like i Canāt lmao) this is just like... a rant i needed to get out of me real quick.Ā
SO. tldr for now: have critical thought about shit you consume, thereās no ethical consumption under [the film industry], you canāt judge a movie entirely on its trailer, and yāall need to calm the fuck downĀ
#garbage.txt#deh movie#ask to tag#irrelevant#bc this is lowkey a vent bc jfc#this isn't @ anyone btw this is just [in general mostly just from my dash] bc.. sighs#anyway im gonna refrain from making any more comment on this its just. frustrating.#edit: ok to rb
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