#geeta path

[souenkun]

I loooove the jp fandom's headcanon that geeta and larry are childhood friends who met during their time in the academy and, sometime in the future, geeta personally recruited larry to work for the paldean pokemon league, as she must be one of the first people who knew of his prowess in pokemon battling! Like yeah, the whole geeta being a "strict boss who is frustrated by larry's stubborn insistence to be an average worker that she has to assign him different workloads just to broaden his horizon" idea is intriguing, but stepping it up a notch by making geeta be the "best friend a.k.a the only one who has seen larry at his very best and his very worst, and knows for a fact that he could excel at anything he put his mind into if he steps out of his comfort zone, so she doesn't particularly drag him out of said zone, but pushes him out of it each time she can because she can't bear to see her best friend be unaware of the good chances and positive things that awaits him out there, not if she has a (small) say in it" is also downright hilarious 😭🤚

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[jeevanjali]

Geeta Jayanti 2023: गीता जयंती के दिन करें इन मंत्रों का जाप, बनी रहेगी भगवान श्रीकृष्ण की कृपाGeeta Jayanti 2023: इस साल 23 दिसंबर 2023, दिन शनिवार को गीता जयंती है। गीता जयंती हिंदू कैलेंडर के अनुसार मार्गशीर्ष माह के शुक्ल पक्ष की एकादशी तिथि को मनाई जाती है। इसी दिन भगवान विष्णु को समर्पित मोक्षदा एकादशी भी होती है।

[goldensunset]

now is not the time lady

[diamondwerewolf]

Tumblr essay nobody asked for

Geeta doesn’t dislike Larry, she’s just trying to curb his propensity to settle.

Some of this information I’m paraphrasing comes from the main Sar/Vi game, the DLC, and Pokemon Masters EX.

To start, a detail I don’t seen discussed is this:

Larry’s shoes and his briefcase are worn. See the scuffs and the rip. He uses the same items over again, probably until they can’t be used anymore. He prefers to use the same Pokémon type [normal] , and has noted himself that he seldom switches things up, and should probably keep up with talented people from time to time. Which implies he doesn’t believe himself to be talented, which I’ll get back to later.

Another note to make about Larry, is that he’s reasonably stubborn, which goes hand in hand with being ‘set in his ways’. He says in Masters that he enjoys being Average, and only searches for the extraordinary in foods, as long as the restaurant isn’t too busy. That’s another hint at his introversion, apart from not wanting to be highly recognizable, which I may discuss later. So in synopsis with some additional points Larry is:

-Resistant to change

-very independent

-quite firm in his opinions or beliefs

-somewhat introverted

-a workaholic despite his complaints

Let’s take a break and discuss Geeta.

[Here she is noticing that Larry is enjoying a change of scenery. ]

She initially comes across as overbearing as chairwoman of the Pokémon league, but her decisions come from a genuine place. She cares about -progression- , of not just Paldea, but of all of her employees. I think this is fair.

Geeta mentions in masters ex that she loves collecting rare gems, literally and metaphorically. She’s a recruiter but also a nurturer. I assume someone who works so closely with the school was probably a teacher at some point, too.

You’ll notice, primarily in masters and the PkmnSV DLC that Geeta gives Larry tasks that, I assume, are meant to rouse him out of his comfort zone. Why don’t you use flying instead of normal types all the time? Why don’t you go to this event and mingle? [ she’s the one who encouraged Larry to hang out with Kabu] Would you be willing to leave familiar territory, that well trodden path, if it was for your job??

She doesn’t have a close eye on Larry because she dislikes him. I actually think Geeta worries he doesn’t enjoy working for the league, or that he’s wasting some of his potential. Mind you, Larry was hand picked for his jobs. The elite 4 are her rare, sparkling gems. Pillars of strength for the region.

She’s attempting to nurture Larry, and like a scrunched shiba on a leash, he’s an older man who doesn’t want to budge. He’s a ‘free spirit’ in masters. There’s irony in him being very resistant to being told what to do. It’s funny. Of course he’s going to think she’s hawking on him. He’s that kind of guy. He wants to do what he wants, which may not always be the best.

I think out of all of her employees, Geeta may mention him the most across all materials. My shipping delusions aside, she does think he’s special. But she may not be fully aware of his introversion. Half of Larry’s resistance to striving is probably to avoid talking to more people than he needs to.

Classic case of miscommunication, because Larry doesn’t give her any direct feedback. I think he should. She would probably adjust her tasks for him.

Some last thoughts, cause I don’t know where to put this:

-Larry has excellent taste in food, while Geeta’s tastes are pretty bland [this is from masters] VERY FUNNY

-Larry thinks himself to be average, while being one of Pokémon’s more unusual characters. He’s perplexed if the player picks him as a favorite gym leader.

-Geeta often has to force larry to take breaks. I’m still wondering what else this may imply about him. He complains privately, but he does work hard

[funky-vg-beats]

Okay so I know it's not music related, and maybe it's a little niche, but I have a Question that I would like some opinions on. I've seen both angles on this, and I have my own opinion, but I'm curious about the general consensus.

*the routes 'Path of Legends' and 'Starfall Street' are (generally) optional.

[d3adring3r]

People really hating Geeta out here because she emphasizes the importance of making our decisions and forging our own paths. She uses Pokémon she finds appealing instead of purely relying on battle prowess. She works her ass off to make sure the needs of the region and her students are met and yet, she is offensively depicted as a despotic boss. Only because she enjoys order and making things predictable. Geeta wants students to succeed and push themselves and does so by testing their capabilities through battle. She doesn't hold back, of course, but she wants her students to have the chance to conquer new challenges. The poor thing does not deserve any of the hate she gets. People just choose not to understand her character.

[bietrofastimoff23]

"yes he's been a problem, yes he's been acting irrationally <...>" - geeta patel.

where was he the problem? when he was trying to do his job, for which no one had prepared him (and when he tried to withdraw himself, he was forcibly placed on the throne and they behaved as if it was his whim), while she was only pretending to do something?

okay, maybe this is about the first season inclusive, but "acting irrationally". .... his SON WAS literally K1LLED. HIS HEAD WAS SAWN OFF IN HIS OWN CRADLE. his LAST moments were accompanied by FEAR AND HELPLESSNESS, because NO ONE came despite his cries.

and the fact is that Aegon is one of the few parents in the show who really cares about the loss of a child. so how could he act rationally, especially when NO ONE from the family expressed any regret to him? instead of consolation, he only heard what a weakling he was, that no one was interested in his opinion on how his son's funeral should go. they showed that they all don't care, so, of course, if no one is going to help him, he will take matters into his own hands. he doesn't care about honor, about the correctness of actions, justice. he wants REVENGE.

thats why he gets closer to Larys and makes Criston his right hand - they do not humiliate or condemn him for his feelings, and the second one even takes the initiative into his own hands, sending the knight to kill nyra in her own keep, as they did it to Prince Jaehaerys, thus sharing his king's thirst for revenge.

"what's tricky about it is her son was acting so maniacal <...>" apparently, the writers completely forgot how Alicent herself once longed for an "eye for an eye" and attacked with a dagger for her mutilated son. it would seem that she, like no one else, could partially understand his pain and thirst to punish the perpetrators. but, of course, when Aegon demands punishment for the M@RDER of his son, it's just manic&irrationality caused by weakness, not the grief&worry of a loving parent.

it was an opportunity to bring mother and son closer together, when Alicent, after B&C, would see in her son someone more than just a spoiled boy. but no, they went down the path that his grief is regarded as a weakness in a show with insensitive characters. hOw TErrIbLE iT is when a parent feels something for their child other than indifference&contempt, isn't it?

[9823678]

@/poke_times on twitter begins "ポケマスEXおすすめストーリー診断" campaign. you can watch some event story videos (JP ver.) on pokemas official youtube channel JP. line up is below. it includes Kanto region to Paldea region.

Kanto region

Villain Arc "Kanto: Team Rocket Returns" (bulbapedia has story plot) (video link), Featured characters: team rocket.

Neo Champions "Three Trainers, Three Minds" (story section is stub yet😂 anyway page link) (video link), Featured characters: trainer red, trainer leaf and rival blue.

Johto region

Neo Champions "Honing One's Love" (plot section is a stub) (video link), Featured characters: rival silver and champion geeta.

Story event "A Golden Future" (plot) (video), Featurd character: gym leader morty.

Hoenn region

story event "Twin Stars Far Apart" (plot) (video), Featured characters: gym leader tate and liza.

Costume Event "Solve the Case!" (plot section is a stub) (video), Featured characters: steven stone, rival shauna, trainer lyra, zinnia.

Sinnoh region

story event "Threads of Strength" (plot section is a stub) (video), Featured characters: champion cynthia, trainer red.

 legendary event/Legendary Adventures "New World Dilemma" (plot) (video), Featured character: team galactic boss cyrus.

Unova region

story event "The Ideal Formula" (plot) (video), Featured charcters: N, trainer hilbert.

Neo Champions "One More Step to a New Path" (plot section is a stub) (video), Featured characters: gym leader cheren, bianca.

Kalos region

Neo Champions "Leaders of a New Era" (plot) (video), Featured characters: trainer serena, trainer calem.

 legendary event/Legendary Adventures "Give and Take" (plot is stub) (video), Featured characters: professor sycamore, lysandre.

Alola region

story event "Mechanized—Love and Solitude" (plot) (video), Featured characters: rival gladion, lillie, lusamine.

story event "Chef's Heartful Delivery" (plot section is a stub) (video), Featured character: trial captain mallow.

Galar region

Neo Champions "Fight for the Future Together" (plot) (video), Featured characters: rival hop, marnie, bede.

story event "Galar's Poké Ball Enthusiast" (plot) (video), Featured character: Ball Guy.

Hisui region

story event "Travelers from a Distant Past" (plot) (video), Featured characters: clan leader adaman, irida.

story event "Researcher and Seeker" (plot) (video), Featured charcters: volo, jacq.

Paldea region

story event "We Should Battle!" (plot) (video), Featured charadters: rival nemona, trainer hilda, rival bede.

story event "Middle-Aged Opposites" (plot section is a stub) (video), Featured characters: gym leader larry, gym leader kabu.

[incorrectpokechampionquotes]

What does Cynthia think of the other champions?

Lance: Cynthia and Lance are childhood rivals. She enjoys making digs and irritating him, but it's in good humor for the most part. Watching the two of them compete can be quite something. That being said, Lance has never beaten her in a pokémon battle.

Steven: Steven was the only reason Cynthia and Lance didn't tear each other apart for a long time. She sometimes enjoys treating him like a child for fun. She sees him like a little brother.

Wallace: Cynthia and Wallace get along well enough. She thinks he's eccentric, but they can still enjoy each other's company. Their milotics are friends, so that also helps.

Alder: Alder sees most of the other champions like his nieces/nephews and looks out for them. Cynthia isn't as close to him as Steven and Lance are, but she'll occasionally look to him for guidance (or for a battle)

Iris: Cynthia knows that Iris really looks up to her, and it does things for her ego that she might not need. She always tries to be at the top of her game when Iris is around so she can be her role model.

N: Cynthia thinks N is interesting. He reminds her a bit of Cyrus, but she thinks he's much kinder. While they never get too close (Reshiram and Giratina HATE each other), she keeps an eye on him, just in case he starts showing signs of following the same path.

Diantha: Cynthia and Diantha are close friends. While they do have a romantic interest in each other, they both decided that dating while being champions of different regions would not be a great idea. If one of them were to retire, though...

Leon: Cynthia isn't a huge fan of Leon. She doesn't like how loud or showboaty he is, so she never bothered to get too close to him. However, she still respects his strength as a trainer, and how he's able to maintain an image as a national icon.

Geeta: Cynthia thought she would enjoy the company of another sapphic champion. This was not the case. Cynthia is put off by how aloof Geeta is, and can never seem to get her to open up. Cynthia still isn't entirely convinced that she isn't a robot.

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[ilikesaladforks]

i just saw on yt, pokémon masters’ story between Grusha and Malva and now I got an image of Rika going into protective girlfriend mode and possibly decking her across the face.

i think rika would fume because malva stepped on the exact thing that rika herself had been so careful all along to tiptoe around that grusha was clearly sore about

ok ok so assuming the anime didn't exist at this so we only had scarvio and mastersex lore to go off of:

we don't know exactly when grusha went pro, how long he'd spent on snowboarding (presumably he spent a long time on it), when he oopsy daisied his way into retirement, how long of a break he took between the injury and his subsequent parlay into battling or how long he'd been a gym leader by the time of the story, except for the fact that he's definitely an adult by the story's events/by the time he started being a gym leader

as geeta's assistant rika most probably has high enough clearance with regards to who geeta intended to scout for the gym challenge and who is applying for jobs and whatnot. even if she's not the hr person, she at least keeps tabs on goings ons at bare minimum. probably.

i like to think that rika was careful about the way she approached grusha. light prods here and there, but never touching on anything too personal, but they both know that she knew enough about his past and why he's here and a lot of it goes unsaid. she keeps a respectful distance because she could tell that he still hasn't fully come to terms with his new path. he wants to snowboard, but he no longer can. he's a gym leader as a means to an end. he wanted to get strong so that geeta doesn't have a reason to kick him out

and then some pesky little kid wiped the floor with him twice and he was fuming and got his act together. instead of thinking about whether geeta will make him jobless for not beating a kid, he's sore because he wanted to win just for himself. now he's motivated to get better because there's a goalpost up ahead that he wants to reach for himself. i think it's also interesting to think about how this was probably the same flame that he had burning as a snowboarder - he was 2nd best in the world, he was so high, but he wasn't high enough, he had a goal to reach and he was young and full of himself and rash and oops there goes his leggy

so even as he decides to make the most out of his new career that he is gonna dedicate himself to, there's still an inkling of yearning for the slopes on the inside that continues to burn - and this rando from god knows where saw it and call him out on it. is he here because he didn't want to? what exactly does he really want now? even in blueberry, he finally got on a snowboard again and did hit the slopes for the first time in almost forever since his incident. it never completely died out, and that's why it was a smouldering flame. grusha has tried to extinguish it by changing career paths, retiring from the sport and swearing (until blueberry) to never snowboard again. it's quite a hard turn and a determined one at that for him, yet he couldn't help himself when he saw the cetoddles having fun in the polar biome. he loves it and he still does!

rika probably can see that too, but chooses to respect his decision not to reawaken that passion. yet this woman from kalos who barely knew any of them just walks right up to him and says it to his face!!!! after she'd spent years shutting herself up to not rip open any raw wounds!!!!! rika's not just furious, she's salty and jealous!!!!

and after the encounter she's sulking for way longer than usual

but also this got me thinking about that story and about grusha's attitude towards uh. things. because it's just so interesting!!!!

now that we found out from the anime that grusha actually is still able to snowboard but chose not to post injury, there must be more than 1 person like the snowboard dude who thinks it's a shame that grusha no longer boards the snow. with a fixation on results, i think grusha has a view that he cannot do something if he cannot perform it to the highest possible level. so like snowboarding, post injury he retired because he could no longer board like he used to. whatever the doctor told him, whether he will never board the same like he used to, whether he will be back as fit as ever with some rehab, whatever it was, it wasn't enough to convince grusha to pick it up again. he went on to battle and was able to get good at it, so maybe that's why it became a viable career path in his eyes. i'm not even trying to paint grusha as some egotistical maniac who only wants to be the very best that no one ever was, but it seems to me that he puts a lot of value in the ability to perform, so much so that if he ever loses that potential and is unable to perform to the same standard he held himself to, he feels that he has to give it up even though he loves it

perhaps when malva said that she could see his smouldering flame for snowboarding, she was echoing the opinions of the masses (i don't even know this character so i won't say whether it fits her or not, this is just my thoughts on what her actions mean) who lament the fact that grusha, in his prime, retired after an injury. now i'm not gonna be the judge of how traumatising or debilitating an injury is to an athlete. i'm just a crazy fandom person who writes crazy fanfics from time to time and i absolutely am not sporty myself. but what malva was seeing is grusha struggling with the decision he consciously made (with his rational mind i guess?) to retire from the sport he enjoyed because he could no longer perform as well as he could. what was the point if he was no longer able to reach the peaks he was once able to?

with his conversation with malva, grusha was forced to confront this flame that he could never douse entirely and face the question of what he truly wanted to do moving forward. there isn't a right answer for her, what she sought was an answer from him. grusha in mastersex (essentially post scarvio, maybe pre dlc) is determined to dedicate himself to battling, but that encounter with the scarvio protagonist isn't about to undo months or even years of internal turmoil about his career change that he still has yet to come to a conclusion about. in sum, his cool mind tells him that it's cringe to pick up snowboarding again if he's not gonna be that good at it, but his uncool mind still exists no matter how cool he tries to be. to malva, he is only being a gym leader as a 2nd best option in life and he still has enough lingering feelings for snowboarding that he ended up giving in to in blueberry.

because of her prodding, he was able to finally settle on an answer for himself. and with the anime in context the fact that he went on about the uncertainties of the new path he's taking

"It might lead me to a bright future or a steep fall... I don't know."

"I'll still make it all the way to the end, no matter what twists and turns the snow-capped mountains throw at me."

"I'll ride this course of life with everyone—including my Pokémon."

does he seek certainty in life and that's why he was always so strict about producing results and why he gave up on snowboarding? by getting so good at snowboarding/battling, there was/is a certainty or stability that he could feel. but when he lost that certainty with snowboarding it became too much for him to handle and that's why he felt the need to switch careers?

idk tbh

i remember reading this story some time back maybe a few months ago and thinking that malva was literally just a mastersex npc lololololol and i certainly did feel the same kind of indignance and anger towards her words since it felt like she was trying to taunt him, but now that i'm reading it again especially with the anime knowledge that he's still able to snowboard i just can't help but think about how the mind of the wild grusha works. i hope this ramble made sense!

[star-arcana]

In defense of Pokémon Horizons episode 79 "Over the Top" : Why Geeta isn't weak!

SPOILERS!!!

Ok, I already made a post on it on twitter, that site won't allow me to go into detail as much as I wanna. So I use THIS side to explain, as to why this episode is well made and why the ultimate outcome not only makes story wise sense, but was the best conclusion Horizons could take!

So I'm going to write a better version of my post, in defense of Geeta, La Primera,standing over the top, as well as for our Heroine Liko, and her friends, Roy and Dot! Llet's begin!

The Origin of Geeta's controversial role as Champion!

Geeta is considered to be one of the worst champions of all time, even as THE WORST champion by many. In Scarlet and Violet, she poses as the final challenge of the Paldean League and as champion battles us to see, if we can become champion too. Due to how poorly she perfomed however, people have a sour taste left in their mouth with her role as champion, despite having fulfilled her role rather masterfully, which I will get later on. Just know that before Horizons's most recent episode, Geeta had long before garnered a bad reputation as a poor champ, even if it's undeserved imo. So I will go in detail over that first to establish why that is bollocks and why she actually works well in the games, and how it influenced the anime's take of her. It was all made with the utmost care and sincere respect for Geeta as character that is even unmachted compared to her game counterpart.

She is in the anime even better than ever before and it will be soon not difficult to see why!

La Primera has a role to fulfil in Horizons, and it explains the outcome of this episode, as well as to why the controversy happened! So let's briefly go over her games's version first!

Geeta's role in the games!

You see, Horizons drew massive inspirations from Scarlet and Violet, not only with it's Pokémon, but setting as well! But Horizons is self-containted as storyline, and not established to be canon within the games. So therefore, it doesn't follow strickly or even remotely the same path of the game and has it's own story, making most of SV take a backseat for more interesting, compelling and well-written narratives!

But Geeta's anime counterpart and many of the elements of Horizons are based on the story of Scarlet and Violet, and they gave a template for how that character works, even if not fully used (since you cannpot blindly copy the games).

Now I come REALLY to her game's role:

Golden Owl, a youtuber who studied game design and lives in Singapore, outlined many of the reasons as to why Geeta isn't bad as champion. I will use many of his points here, as well as using some of his phrases, because they are funny! This video from Golden Owl influenced me, as well as my own reasoning regarding my views on Geeta in both media. So check his video out if you want to know his takes yourself.

He is really knowledgeable and trustworthy, check him out please and subscribe to his channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EghD8e3ziMM&pp=ygUdZ2VldGEgaXMgdGhlIHdlYWtlc3QgY2hhbXBpb24%3D

So as underlined in his video, Geeta was despite her role as champion never the final boss of this game. The Paradox Professors were, and Geeta is not even the final boss of the very storyline where you face her: That is Nemona!!! Da Da Daaa!!!

Scarlet and Violet is seperated into three storyline in total, not counting the DLC's as they aren't relevant here, and the final one happening after you finished all of the main three.

Arven's story, "Path of Legends", is about facing Titan Pokémon to help him heal his Mabosstiff's illness and meanwhile strenghtening your Koraidon/Miraidon (depending on which version you play as).

Penny's story "Starfall Street" is about with fighting against Team Star to stop them from bullying other students, and learning about their motives and why they are that way!

And finally, Nemona's story "Victory Road", which is the one where you face Geeta, so we go with this one here:

Nemona at the start of this storyline wants to make you, the player, a rival worthy of facing her in battle, as no one was able to truly make her go all-out on anyone. She convinces you to partake in the Paldean League to become a champion level trainer yoruself and face Nemona afterwards! So, you face the 8 Gym Leaders and occasionally battle with Nemona herself. Then you face the Elite 4, and finally the top champion Geeta , whom you have to beat to become Nemona's most worthy rival and opponent... ... ... ...and let's be honest here, Geeta's battle performance was...not so good...I won't go into very big detail here, since that had been discussed endlessly to death regarding Geeta, so I get this most basic info out straight:

1. Geeta's ace, Glimmora, should have been send out first to make most use of it's Toxic Debris ability to lay toxic spikes on the enemies's field to poison and weaken the enemy, if hit by a physical attack. Instead, it comes out last and Glimmora also has no defensive attack to stall the enemy. Thus the Spikes are, in addition to poor placement, are rendered almost useless, espcially when that ability can be ignored by using special attacks, which aren't hard to optain, especially super effective ones.

2. Gogoat, Avaluug and Veluza aren't particularly challenging and lack the defensive utility to help with Glimmora's spikes,especially with how late that mon comes out. They cannot help this team and can be easily taken out. Avalugg's ginormous defensive bulk is also marred by it's SUPER LOW special defense and therefore is REALLY vulnerable to special attackers.

3. Kingambit's most memable and powerful ability, Supreme Overlord, that buff it's attack stage by 10% for each fallen team member is never send out last (in fact it often is send out second) and therefore never fully maximized it's ability.

Thus the only Pokémon used competently here is Espathra with it's Opportunist ability and coverage taking advantage of your stat boost, by buffing itself with the same boost.

So...yeah...this team wasn't designed to be hard, it was built around rather the many biomes you encountered on your journey across the Paldean Region:

Gogoat representing the grassy highlands! Veluza the lakes northwest! Avalugg the top of Paldea's icy and cold mountains! Espathra the hot, burning deserts west! Kingambit the forests northeast! and Glimmora representing A0, the final destination awaiting you next.

You are in fact level wise meant to beat Geeta alongside the final bosses of the two other storylines, with Penny and Arven bein around Geeta's level. Meanwhile Neomona is slightly higher than them all, meaning Victory Road was concieved as the storyline to be finished last.

Thus Geeta wasn't gameplay wise meant to be hard, and she didn't needed to be hard, because Nemona is the true driving force and the final boss of that storyline, just like Blue in Gen 1. Blue was to the player in the first Pokémon games, as the most personal foe, who became champ first by beating the Elite 4 before you and losing shortly after the title to you! How exciting!

Geeta doesn't fulfil the same role as champ, Nemona does, and, in fact, neither she or Nemona are even the true final bosses of SV! That would be the Paradox Professors in the last storyline you unlock after you finish all the three others storylines.

You unlock the last challenge in the base game facing either Sada (Scarlet) or Turo (Violet) depending on each version in the final storyline called "The Way Home", where you enter Area Zero and face the truth of Paradox Pokémon and what happened to Koraidon/Miraidon, as well as the original Professors, basically a horror story with a good ending afterwards!

Therefore Geeta had to be held back, as to not outperorm the final bosses of that game. So yeah, for someone who says that they never held back, there was a lot of holding back done here, not by her, but by the narrative. This makes sense, as Nemona by Geeta's own words held even against her held back, because Nemona felt no true satisfaction in this battle. But now that even Geeta, the Champion of Paldea is defeated, Nemona is faced last, and she is actually much stronger, with a more competent team, but mostly gameplay wise, as Geeta herself is still considered by Nemona really strong.

So in the end, the issue of Geeta's bad impression on fans was with the role given to her, as another boss before facing the actual final boss. That is unlike many of the other champions in the whole series that peopled wanted her to be like, and a lot of fans were then dissapointed in Geeta!

Unlike Geeta, the other champions are the final bosses and/or super bosses of their respective games, like Cynthia, Lance, Blue e.t.c. They were powerhouses always meant to be fought last, as they are the ultimate challenge for the player to overcome and beating them therefore is the ultimate end goal of these games.

The only other game aside from SV in the series so far that had the actual champion be second fiddle to more powerful trainers, was Alder from Black and White 1. He is there the Champion of the Unova League and meant to be seen as powerful mentor with the twist of him losing his title to N, who defeated him and in turn became the new champion. Withonly the player, that is you, remaining as last hope to stop him. After you do this, Ghetsis then reveals himself as the true villain and final boss and gets taken out, too. Alder is then fought in the post-game, as an actually challenging boss. But aside from these two exceptions, champions are always seen as the strongest trainers and even the greatest rivals to overcome, with everyone else being a stepping stone between them and you!

This is unusual in the case of Geeta here, as she never recieved the role as final boss and ultimate foe. So, she had to be made weak compared to Nemona, as not to upset the flow of the story and game, since the strongest bosses are always meant to fight last. This is how and why Geeta is considered the worst champion of all time, because she was not the final boss many hoped she would be and instead is just another challenge.

One could argue they overdid this with lowering her potential in the base game, but I feel like this isn't so bad, after all, the finale of a game is what should be most challenging, not the stepping stones and she is good enough for this to work and delivered even more in the DLC!

How the DLC fixed this!

Geeta got in the Indigo Disk a massive buff with her rematch team in the League Club room. She has a more competent team and placement that actually benefits her Pokémon more:

She still has Glimmora, Espathra, Avalugg and Kingambit, but Glimmora is placed first and Kingambit last to maximize and optimize their abilities. Avalugg is the only weak link, but has somewhat good defenses to justify it's placement as bulky Ice type. She also has now a Chesnaught and Dragapult, the former being a defense mon and the latter a powerful Pseudo-Legendary with great coverage and attacks. This team boasts now a great defensive style with Espathra and Chesnaught to stall with defensive moves such as protect and Spiky Shield to stall enough the enemy for the spikes to work. And finally, once the heavy hitters are taken out afterwards , a Tera-Flying Kingambit with max Supreme Overlord to remove all of it's previous weaknesses can sweep through the enemy's team. Yeah, she really is utterly incapable of holding back!

Thus Geeta is now with this team considered really strong, with many saying that this team is amongst the best in the whole series when compared to that of other champions. Better than Leon's and even around Cynthia's level, maybe even better than hers! Overall Geeta impressed here many who tought of her as weak...but this wasn't enough.

Despite this, the original impression remains and was not possible to shackle, especially with her being hyped up as top battler that never holds back. She was made utterly incapable of delivering this gameplay wise, cuz the game clearly held her back...Even with this second chance that Geeta got, this impression never changed, which lead to a rather unfortunately place in the fandom that Geeta never deserves...

In conclusion...La Primera was not final boss material by design...which led to many dissapointed fans of the games and Geeta getting slandered into obliviion by many...but this isn't the end of all of this, since she would appear in a new storyline, that also led a lot of the same reactions, so let's finally go over there!

Geeta's role in the anime!

How well recieved the Horizons is by the fandom is a diffrent discussion for another time, but many have hoped that Geeta would have been given her just due in the anime, to making up for the "poor" performance in the games...many were happy, others not so much, which made me do this post to begin with!

I will go to her overall role later in detail, but first I wanna go to the episode first!

So lets's get that out of the way:

This episode's outcome was predictable all things considered!

Unless you ignored the implication of Floragato surviving the Tera Blast in the promo, as well as ultimately ignoring Geeta's conditions for the trio entering A0, namely defeating her or no entrance, there is no reason to assume that this battle shouldn't ever have ended in a victory for the RVT. Even considering the earlier losses of them against other foes before, many of which were trials to test their skills. But they were not challenges to overcome via winning, as victory was not the condition set out by their challengers, like Kleavor in Kitakami for instance.

So Geeta had to be defeated and lose, regardless of how powerful the title of champion is, and she did this with grace and excellency too. It took the trio much effort in terms of intellect, power, resilliance and strenght in spirit to overcome Geeta and it is not difficult to see why this is plausable! I will first go and briefly summarize the events of that battle and then explain Geeta's role in the anime, starting with the batle:

Liko with Floragato worked together with Roy and Dot, who brought with them Crocalor and Quaxwell respectely into battle to face Geeta as team. Geeta uses Glimmora as her Ace again, and is aided by two Glimmets, pre-evolutions of Glimmora. So Geeta uses a team of three, all of them very same evolutionary line. And as a small tangent, this correlates with the journey of our heroes and the usage of Glimmora in the games: Just like in the games, Glimmora is represented as a warning of what awaits the trio in Area Zero. The same role is fulfilled by the two Glimmets helping it to make this theme of Geeta's challenge team clear:

This is truly a test to see, if they can enter and even survive A0, hence why Geeta doesn't use her other mons, as they aren't from that Area, and would have thematically no relevance to either this fight or the episode. They are irrelevant to the RVT's current goals and wishes, they aren't right now exploring all of Paldea, and therefore Geeta built her team accordingly to their desires of the RVT. hus Liko, Roy and Dot face a team built around testing them for Area Zero, and if they win, they may enter, but if they lose, they can't, per La Primera's own words. Before the battle starts, Geeta warns them that she is unable to hold back during battles, so she will fight them with full force, setting an omnimous tone for the fight!

The Battle starts with Crocalor attacking the two Glimmets with Stomping Tantrum, but they use Rock Polish to evade the attack with enhanced speed. Roy and Dot ponder on attacking the Glimmets, but Liko knows better and realizes it is easier to attack focusing on one point first, that being, Glimmora itself. And all of them unleash their combined attack on Glimmora: Floragato using Magical Leaf, Crocalor Flamethrower, and Quaxwell using Water Gun, but that gets countered easily by Dazzling Gleam, which blinds the starters and the two Glimmets rain upon them from above with Power Gem. This shows how cunning and powerful Geeta is for cooking up this strategy, proving that she is no weakling. Immiediately afterwards, Dazzling gleam is fired up again to prepare for another double power Gem salve, but Roy counters it by telling Crocalor to use Disarming Voice to prevent them from attacking, as that move always hits, as well as bypassing accuracy checks like Dazzling Gleam. Meanwhile Liko and Dot tell Floragato and Quaxwell to attack Glimmora. Dot tells Qauxwell to use Liquidatio, but gets countered easily by Grassy spike. Geeta wants then Glimmora to use Power Gem on the approaching Floragato, but Liko tells her partner to use a good old sucker punch to delibetate Geeta's Ace, as that attack in response to offensive moves prevents the foe from attacking. But this attack activates the ability of Glimmora; Toxic Debris. Now the trio has their starters being poisoned by Toxic Spikes and the two Glimmets attack with venoshock, a poison type move that doubles the damage if the target has a status condition, like being poisoned, using thus the Toxic Debris effect to it's greatest potential. The team is concerned, as Geeta is fighting like no one else they meet before, but Roy gets an idea! He remembers Kleavor's strategy on using the sound of incoming attacks to avoid them, as that mon fought within a Bamboo forest using hearing to make up with poor eyesight. They use this strat learned from Kleavor to counter Geeta's Dazzling Gleam + double attack from above strat!

Thus the trio alongside their starters plan on goading Geeta to use use Dazzling Gleam again with Dot telling Quaxwell to use Water gun on Glimmora, who, as predicted, counters with Dazzzling Gleam. Once more the light blinds their Pokémon, but they are prepared and close their eyes, alongside their trainers and listen to the sound of the next attack. Geeta tells her Glimmets to attack Liko's Floragato with Power Gem, but Liko then counters it with telling Floragato to go left to evade the attack and then the Grass Starter uses her Yo-Yo buds to hold the two Glimmets. Roy then tells Crocalor to use Stomping Tantrum on them. Since Glimmets are 4 x weak to ground type moves, they are now on the verge of defeat, but Geeta uses this to her advantage! She orders the weakened Glimmets to use Memento on Crocalor and Quaxwell, thus hitting them with an attack that faints the two, but harshly lowers their targets Attack and Special Attacks, greatly reducing the two's capabilities in battle. This puts the trio at a massive disadvantage, and Glimmora has now to worry less about it's enemies's attack.

Dot begins to hope for luck to help against Geeta, but Liko realizes that Geeta puts too much effort in wnning for luck to work, as she would sacrefice everything needed for her for win. So Liko has to come up with a strategy that can fool everyone, and fooling everyone she did, because when the three charge at Glimmora, Liko tells Floragato to use Sucker Punch on Crocalor to prevent him from using Stompin Tantrum, while Quaxwell makes Glimmora use up Grassy shield with Liquidation.

Liko shocked everyone, especially Geeta, who is surprised by this turn of events. But this is not all, as Liko reminds Roy that Stomping Tantrum increases in power, if the previous attempt failed. Given that Crocalor was weakened by Memento, he needed a power boost to compensate for his weaknened state, and with Liko and Floragato's help, he got it. So now Roy's Crocalor can hit with enhanced power a 4 x super effective Stompin Tantrum on Glimmora, surprising Geeta massively. However as the battle continues, the poison does catch up with the starters, and Geeta, not able to hold back has no intention to stall them anymore. Liko also realized, that she cannot pull off that same strat again on her cunning foe! Geeta then resorts to use Terastallization to go all-out on them, having no intention to stall them and defeat them with her raw might!

In response, the trio then terastalize their Pokemon! Glimmora with Tera-Rock and the starters with their actual types! Liko tells Floragato to use Magical Leaf, but the poisoning weakened that Pokémon too much to use an attack, and Geeta sees an opening to attack with Glimmora's Rock-Tera blast, Liko's Pokémon. But Roy and Dot tell their Pokémon to shield Floragato and counter Tera Blast with Flamethrower and Water Gun respectively, but to avail, as not only do they get knocked out, but Floragato got hit too, facing the full brunt of that force!

But this isn't over, as Floragato toughed out the attack, so that Liko won't feel sad! Aww, so adorable and badass! This however is not all! On top of all of this, Floragato's ability Overgrowth activates, an ability exclusive to Grass Starters that powers up the Pokémon's attack and special attack by 50%, when they are at critical health. With Terastalization, the next attack is going to hit hard and super effectively. Sensing that this is her last chance to victory,Liko tells Floragato to use a great big Magical Leaf, clashing against Geeta's Glimmora, who uses Tera Blast to counter it, only to fail, as Floragato's Magical Leaf was stronger! And thus Glimmora was hit with a super effective attack and faints, winning the trio the match!

Liko, Roy and Dot win over Geeta, thus they all passed. Having defeated La Primera and earned their victory and thus permission to enter alongside Friede A0. Geeta has gratulated on them all for their performance and Liko has finally with her team won over a Champion, now ready to enter one of the most dangerous zones in all of Pokémon...but as the Rising Voltacklers arrived at Area Zero, Coral and Sidian follow them, to monitor their progress. But I leave that for next time, let's focus on the reaction to all of this!

Geeta is once again under cross fire + Liko bested a champion!MEGA FUEL FOR CONTROVERSY!!

This loss at the hands at relatively inexperienced trainer, coupled with an already poor reputation as champion, revived the hatred and dissapointment in Geeta. It also brought new ire towards Liko for winning, despite her supposive "lack of talents", as well as having now dared to be anywhere near able to beat Ash within such a short time!

"How dare she, Ash is the best, and I need him back"!

Ugh...this fandom...really!

Basically the outrage means nothing!

Geeta fought with a team even better at utilizing Glimmora's full defensive potential and ability, with two Glimmets being great damage dealers and capable of buffing themselves and debuffing their opponents. In additon to all of this, Geeta has Glimmora equiped with a powerful Rock-Tera blast able to take down two middle-evoled starters with ease, with the only one barely able to be left standing. Heck, she has two mons using Venoshock...to take advantage of toxic spikes...how cool is that?

And yes, this still wasn't enough and Floragato won against Glimmora. Liko ultimately won, not just because of her skills in battle and her unvawering heart, but because she also had the help of awesome friends in Roy and Dot, with their mons, Crocalor and Qauxwell being excellent as well. This was a team effort, with Liko taking this win as a group win, they worked together and while Liko performed the best, she is not arrogant to sorely attribute it to her own skills, instead she is way more humble, and praises her friends as well! Liko, Roy and Dot won together, as one, not alone, but as an unified trio!

Still, the people who hated Horizons and Geeta are not able to handle that well, and needed to invent reason as to why they have to downplay it by saying how weak Geeta is, how the trio are too inexperienced, and that Geeta held back, despite having not held back in the slightest.

And to make it quite clear, I have to explain now Geeta's overall role in the anime!

Geeta's role is very much the same as in the games, actually!

Remember of what I said about Geeta not being the final boss of SV? The same applies to Horizons! You see, The purpose of Horizons is telling a tale of self-discovery, as well as following in the footsteps of the Ancient Adventurer Lucius, who wanted to find a Pokémon Paradise known as Laqua (which I also have theories about what kind of place that it). To reach Laqua, they need to gather Lucius's team, the Six Heroes, who are all tera raid levels of powerful and beyond the level of any Pokémon team in the entire franchise. They helped once Lucius to enter Laqua with his friends in the past, and the RVT need them too, to reach the very same land he did with Rystal and Gibeon. Liko, Roy and Dot earned from 4 of them their blessing, with only Paradox Entei and Black Rayquaza remaining, and as Entei's paradox form is however found in Area Zero, and even reportedly sighed there quite recently, the heroes have to enter this most dangerous part of Paldea. Geeta therefore tests the trio, to see if they have what it takes to survive this hostile enviroment, and they have to win, or else, no entry! And she didn't use her more powerful mons in this fight as partners for Glimmora, yes, but not for the reasons many people think! It's not because she wanted to hold back. This wasn't done to go easy on them, this was done by Geeta because it was the most appropriate choice for the trial, since the other mons aren't encountered in that area really, and therefore teach them nothing about Area Zero. Now that they won, they proved that Area Zero is within their skill level to reach, and therefore, their next destination is all free for them to explore!

However this didn't diminish Geeta's power in the slightest. Instead she is shown as a powerful obstacle for the heroes to overcome, as the victory was a close call and took all of the heroes might to even defeat, and all of their bright minds to even challenge. And if they would have lost and still were allowed entrance, this would have not made sense with Geeta's role as character, and would be a repeat of the previous battles that served as trials with the condition of victory not being needed to met. In the Terastal Course for instance, victory was not necessary, just showing how able they are at using Terastalization, hence Dot, Roy and Liko passed without needing to win every battle, yet they grew stronger. So with all they had gathered in terms of experience and their battle spirit fueled by Liko's wish to fulfil Pagogo's promise to Lucius alongside the rest of the Six Heroes, this battle had to be won by them!

Hence, Geeta HAD to lose to the trio, predictably so, this was the only path. The only way to end this fight! And the Trio isn't as green as one might think, they already have experience dealing with powerful Pokémon, like the recent recruit Kleavor, a Pokémon that went full Ogerpon on them in the Kitakami arc prior to the search for Entei, after they cornered it. Johto's Entei even was impressed with them.

Ultimately, the heroes aren't real weaklings, all of them won against some of the most dangerous and vile opponents and grown much more than ever before.

Thus Geeta is like in the games fulfills the role of a powerful and wise opponent to overcome; to prepare them for the final bosses of Horizons, which would most likely by Gibeon, or maybe someone else we have not seen before.

Anway, Geeta's role was obvious with how Horizons didn't focus on the Paldean League and why Liko and the others don't hunt for Gym Badges, this story isn't about that. There is no Nemona creating her perfect rival here, hence even she had her role reduced to being a happy-go-lucky girl, and gave some advices to Roy, not to raise him as her great rival, but because she wanted to help him to unlock his true potential. Horizons is more complex that the previous anime with it's storytelling by not simply adapting the game's storyline into it's own, but crafting a one-of-a-kind story for Liko. That is why the outcome ended in a victory for them, Geeta was never designed to be unstoppable.

So if this is all clear, why the controversy? For the same reason as to why Geeta's game counterpart suffers so much hate:

She isn't like the older Champions! And that is the Ash Era's anime's fault! (not completely so, but they played an important part in this)!!!

The Ash era champions created an unrealistic pedestal to stand on!

Alongside the games, the Ash-era created this idea that champions are unbeatable and unreachable for almost anyone, because they were, to Ash Ketchum. As Ash was created to be the self-insert for the young trainers going on adventures to challenge the league and beat the champions, he won badges and took on the leagues to eventually challenge a champion. Hence all the ones he encountered were portrayed as unstoppable and powerful forces that no one, aside from Legendaries, could realistically defeat. This is why Ash and many others always lost to them, like Lance beating Team Rocket, Cynthia stomping everyone left to right, Kukui winning with his Incineroar over Ash's Litten and then Torracat at the start, and Leon being this unstoppable world champion until he lost to Ash in the world championship. They were designed to be like in the games, to be the final bosses of Ash's journey, hence they were the final opponents of Ash Ketchum in his last big arc! The Master's Eight!

This created another problem for Ash and why he declined as character: He couldn't be allowed to win, or else, his goal of becoming the greatest is achieved, and they had to retire him, perhapas forever! Thus Ash was made to lose every single league, and always resetted, as to make him mirror the next generation of new player's journey for 8 generations straight. Fighting with reset strenght against new Gym Leaders and partaking in another tournaments. This meant he had to continuesly lose, UNTIL the writers and the viewers had finally enough of resetting his power level, as his story got massively repetivie. They allowed thus Ash to win against Kukui, who was playing the archetype of a traditional champion in the SM games as well. He was no real champion, in fact he had this role only because he created Alola's first League with the player becoming the very first Champ of Alola after beating him, since he is this game's final boss.

Thus Ash as the stand-in for SM's protagonist, had to win because the game did that too, and on top of this, fans were starting to get fed up with Ash, as his constant loses in the leagues prior created a sour taste in the fanbase, with the results of the Kalos, Unova, Sinnoh and Indigo league being seen as the biggest dissapointments in the whole series, due to Ash being defeated in the most embarrassing ways. The worst of which happened in the OG Anime's 79th episode, where Ash lost in the fith round of the Indigo League against Richtie. Ash lost there, because most of his team was poorly trained with only Charizard being the only powerful mon he had, and when facing Ritchie's Pikachu, Charizard just stopped fighting. Viewing Ricthie's mon beneath it, it forfeited the match, despite Ash's pleading, rather embarrassingly, to fight. But to avail, giving Ash the most horrible defeat in his whole career to date, even worse than with Cameron, because while this guy was an idiot, at the end of the day, he was a powerful trainer with a mighty Hydreigon against most of Ash's rather weak Unova team.

This is the opposite of Liko's battle against La Primera, where she with her friends defeated Geeta. Floragato, refusing to give up and even toughening out the attack for Liko, as taken from the friendship mechanics of the games, as well as gaining a buff from Overgrowth and Terastalization, wins against Glimmora's ace, a champion level trainer's stongest mon. The whole trio grew faster than Ash did in this amount of time as trainers. Ash, who was arrogant, lost due to this and had to work on himself to get batter at battling. By comparison, Liko, who attributed her win due to her team's work, showed humility, grew as well, but more healthily. Yeah...Liko garnered with this a lot of ire from Ash's fans, for being now seen as someone outperforming him here as a trainer, and in the future, could rise above him, even at his strongest.

The fact that Ash's episode in the OG show where he had his hardest loss was the 79th one, with Horizons, featuring it's 79th epidoe with a defeat of a champ at the hands of our fledging heroine, just shows the contrast between the two protags: Ash winning would mean the end of his story, while for Liko, it would continue her story. And I have proof of this:

The writers of Ash's journey, like the fanbase, had enough of Ash, with his constant loses, and broke that trend with his victory in the Alola league, becoming this region's first ever champ. They however opened up pandora's box for the world champion league! It was hinted by Paul after he lost to Ash in the DP series during the Sinnoh League!, namely the world champion league where he wanted to participate to, until he decided to be instead a Gym Leader. This has always stuck in my mind, since I heard that, and I reveal to you a childhood secret:

I guessed that when Ash wins just one big league, he will become a candidate for the World Champion League, and win it, ending his series. I did that as teenager and I always suspected that he will focus more on preparing for this league rather than on focusing on the current gen's content and BOOM, after I grew into an adult, ALL OF THIS MOSTLY HAPPENED! This ending was predictable for Ash, and after around 25 years, the ending he should have gotten, since Johto or even Unova, where in latter's case, an actual world championship in the games was held in BW2.

That is the crux of all of this, Champions had been given for so long this pedestal by every media, until gen 9 broke that with Geeta, and made her comparatively weak to the true end bosses of the game and the ones we are going to see in Horizons.

So not only did the previous games, as well as the Ash-anime, set a big example of what a champion is supposed to be like, but created an easily to fail one as seen with Geeta. She was in neither media meant to be like Cynthia or Leon. She was meant to be the Chairwoman, helping the kids getting into the Terastal Course, help them with their search of Laqua and after the most recent battle, where she lost, gave them the permission to enter A0. Without Geeta's help, none of them could get this far, and I like her more here in Horizons, because she does far more for the heroes than for the player in game, where Nemona had mostly that role. But here, Geeta is a true champ with ginormous amount of skills and power, as well as a wise and cool personality!

Thus Geeta stands to me here tall, as Top champ and the greatest trainer the RVT ever faced so far. With only Lucius, Rystal and Gibeon being greater, and perhaps even Nemon and Kieran being also greater than if the last two will be allowed to be given bigger roles in the anime.

So yeah, that is why we are here, because of impossibly high expectations that weren't supposed to be met by Geeta, or even needed to met. Geeta proves that just because you are the region's strongest, you can still lose to a Heroine and her friends! Titles mean not everything!

Conclusion-When and when not to hold back!

Geeta imo shows in this battle her greatest strenght and betrays her greatest weakness!

Geeta's inability to held back makes her powerful and reckless, able to hit hard in battle but also leaves her wide open for any harmful attacks, skills and tricks...ironically had she not done this, and stalled their attacks, with poisoning withering the trio, Geeta could have won. But Geeza chose to go all out and made the coolest descision she could have done here! Giving us the best fight possible for this year's start and allowing us to have this discussion.

Because you see, even with all the negativety, this made Horizons relevant in the eyes of fans, and causes it to sparkle talks about what a champ has to be like, and how cool Liko, Roy and Dot were, making us question if champions should really be this invincible or not? Did Ash really had to lose all the time, and was it even a good idea to keep making him unable to face champs for this long? the answer is yes, btw! A more interesting disccussion is on how people simply underestimated Liko and her friends, and just didn't really saw how powerful they truly are. I make no secret that I enjoy somewhat the negativity here. I am like aGrimmsnarl and all of this alt feeds me!!! I love such heated discussions (to a degree) and actually enjoyed that Horizons doesn't hold back with it's story!

Everything they did so far broke in a few years more convensions, rules, tropes, cliches and ideas people have for Pokémon anime, and beyond, even the series itself:

From not following the route of going to the league (not just yet), to having an ancient adventurer having a team of 6 mega large Pokémon, 3 of the being legendaries, and the strongest being a Shiny. To the villain having a Shiny Legendary as well.

With a story uncovering the secrets of said adventurer and a new Legendary that the heroine catches, a female main protagonist, who is rather feminine, but not traditionally so, and shows characters traits both genders can relate to. That journey also being about exploring the world with a theme of self-discovery here and many more stuff. Now Horizons has cemented itself as the most unique Pokémon experience ever and will grow into something bigger, now a trio of relatively inexperienced trainers beat a Champion level trainer...how cool is that!

I could go into detail, but one thing is clear: Horizons pushes the boundaries of what Pokémon can be and is very novel, with unique concepts for a Pokémon anime, and even beyond, is really a good show!

Horizons even helped me pushed my very own boundaries of what I can be, because more than ever...I am interested in what my life is, if I keep taking more steps when stuck. I can, thanks to Liko and her story see how I can achieve happiness: By trying to continue and listen to myself!

Thus Liko showed me with great work, some loses, some wins, and being true to yourself and believing in your self and your own future, will help you make feel better about yourself. So Horizons has shown with this episod how to be truly over the top: Being willingly to sacrefice everything needed to win, without being truly evil that is, as Geeta and Liko are universally good people despite their dark tactics. Don't rely always on luck, use your head and try to find ways to be happy! Be more like Liko, listen to your true hearts desires and find like her, the will and courage to win even against Champions, with friends like Dot and Roy by your side, who will cheer you up, and whom you can protect!

In conclusion being a champion, even if that title carries weight, garantees no victory. Geeta lost, because despite her powers, she is ultimately not invincible and can be taken out by relatively inexperienced trainers, if they work together well. Still, Geeta is shown to be strong, having clever tactics and being brutal, while also being reckless. The Trio is not the most experienced, but they are able to handle themselves well and even impressed Legendary Pokémon and their equally impressive allies in the form of the Six Heroes and before facing Geeta, Johto's Entei, one of the 3 legendary beasts.

So don't underestimate the Rising Voltacklers: These three, Liko, Dot and Roy are champion level trainers in the making, and perhaps Geeta will return as a battler in the future, with a new team far stronger than before, given thus, like in the games via DLC, a second chance to prove herself, maybe in Paldea League arc...but that is a story for another time! Now, Liko and the others enter Area Zero, to find Entei, Black Rayquaza, Laqua and save the world!

Goodbye and see ya next time!

[ladymorghul]

do you think helaemond is over?

no i don't think so. just don't expect lovey dovey helaemond. the show is heavily centered on the theme that men in the show are ruining women's lives, even when it's not necessarily intentional or even when they're, in their minds, well intentioned.

since they went w the prophecy thing in the show, i think that will shape aemond's end as for the greater good. that's why i think there will be no romance between alysm*nd f.e. she is there to protect the prophecy in some way (guides daemon on the better path, shows him the prophecy, helaena shows up saying he is but one piece and he knows his path). it all has to do with what must happen for dany to be born etc. and when aemond gets to harrenhal and might execute the strongs etc, idk what alys will do exactly but the point of what alys will do is slowly lead him towards his own death, as within the story aemond is a threat to the prophecy (this besides being unhinged, burning the riverlands, etc). helaena might be willingly or unwillingly part of that as well.

i think helaemond will be angsty in s3, but i do think we will get more scenes of them together.

just don't have big expectations with this show, about any ship or character. it's best to go into s3 like that and just see where it takes you.

it was already established by geeta, phia and ewan that there's a deeper connection between helaemond, but the writers' focus is on moving the plot where it needs to go. they're not great at writing sideplots that don't focus on alicent, rhaenyra, daemon.

helaena is written as a good character, someone who suffers the consequences of the war in a personal way, etc. she loves her brother aemond but she cannot, in this type of plot chosen by the writers, support this war. so while there's love/care there's also a rift and helaena is now also tied somehow to the prophecy and what needs to happen for the prophecy to be fulfilled. idk if it makes sense what i'm saying but i hope it does.

this is all just my opinion.

[vera800]

What if Pokémon Champions had more flair

Blue/Green/Gary/Assfart: Humiliate them, Blastoise!

Trace: Let’s go Jolteon!

Red: …

Lance: Dragonite! Sic ‘em!

Steven: Metagross! Make them crumble!

Wallace: Milotic, darling, dazzle them!

Cynthia: Garchomp! End them! Make this one for the history books!

Alder: Volcarona, let’s end this with flare!

Iris: This isn’t over yet! Haxorus, give it all you got!

Diantha: Gardevoir, sweetie! Shine with the light that comes from the power of Mega Evolution!

Leon: Woo! You may actually do it! But I’m not done yet! Charizard! Gigantamax!

Mustard: Hohoho! You certainly are talented! Let’s see how you handle this! Urshifu, strike them down!

Peony: Ha! You’re pretty good, kid! Copperajah! Stomp them into the mud!

Nemona: Oh! I haven’t felt this excited in years! Let’s see our power in full fruition! Meowscarada, shine a bright path to the future!

Geeta: You’ve almost passed, but don’t get too cocky! Glimora, shine bright!