#for any sort of behavior that didn't align with the strict gender norms/roles of those communities
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rinielelrandir · 4 months ago
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They also frequently threw queer cis women & trans mascs in psychiatric hospitals. Queer cis men & trans femmes would get sent to jail (or fined or placed under house arrest) and often chemically castrated for "deviant behavior", queer cis women & trans mascs would (usually) get locked in psych wards for their "delusions" instead. When ya know, they weren't just straight up murdering queer people for being queer. Because as pointed out above that was also very much happening.
I feel like some queer ppl & feminist allies who used to think wlw were (unlike mlm) never really oppressed (because they didn't receive the same level of vitriol, the erasure of their identities meant that anti-sodomy laws historically disproportionately affected men, ppl are less disgusted with female homosexuality etc.) only gained a surface-understanding of oppression (lesbians = oppressed because patriarchy) without learning anything at all about erasure and what it does to a community, and now that they struggle to understand transmasculine history & oppression it definitely shows.
#also i would like to point out that the 'sending someone to the psych ward for being queer thing' is very much still happening#and i don't just mean in countries where homosexuality is explicitly against the law either#i mean in the US (and I'm certain other countries as well) some families & communities are still doing this to their children#and yes i am certain it's still happening even to people from places where conversion therapy is technically illegal#children in the US have so few actual protections & rights#it is incredibly easy for parents to just send their gay kids off to a private facility in another state or country where it is legal#not to mention that religious schools & similar programs are incredibly poorly regulated in most of the US#like i've been listening to a podcast of stories of ex-anabaptists#and it's full of stories of people who were sent away or whose friends were sent away or who were coerciavlly medicated#for any sort of behavior that didn't align with the strict gender norms/roles of those communities#or for any sort of questioning of the church or independent thought#like this is very much a Problem in the US (and Canada) still today#it's just not the entirety of society#fundamentalist & evangelical christian communities are doing the same things#and i'm certain there are fundamentalist types in other religions as well engaging in the same sort of shit#i just happen to be more versed in christian fundamentalism bc of my own upbringing & current podcast interests
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