#except he didn't even have any on-screen time of not being a total moral screwup

[lilithfairen]

So I just saw the funniest shit, and that's someone declaring Loghain Mac Tir from Dragon Age: Origins to be "the most morally grey character in the DA series" in an idiotic rant against Veilguard (which I won't reblog because it contains vague and blatantly-misrepresented spoilers in it).

And this is funny because there is absolutely no fucking universe in which you can say that Loghain Mac Tir is "morally grey" without showing what an utter piece of garbage you yourself are. Loghain Mac Tir in Origins is an utterly vile person. He betrays his liege, his allies, and his army, directly causing the deaths of numerous soldiers under his command and countless deaths across Ferelden at the hands of the Fifth Blight. He seizes power for himself and hunts down those he frames for his actions. He allies with and by extension enables numerous individuals who perform vile, amoral actions in their own right. His motivation for doing all of this? His own narcissism and his xenophobia towards people who were fighting a mutual threat alongside his country.

And the best part about this particular screed?

He tried to do right in his own way, but he failed and made a terrible mistake which he realises in the end, and he accepts the players judgement to be executed or to join the Wardens.

No he fucking doesn't. He is defiant to the end, and only submits when he is fully aware that he has been utterly defeated—politically and in direct combat. The only way in which he grows into a decent person is through the player forcing him to join the Grey Warden and giving him years to realize what a colossal fuck-up he was.

But hey, he's a white man who does shitty things because he believes they're necessary. No matter how wrong he is, that still makes him sympathetic in the eyes of pathetic people who think a white male character is entitled to all the power and privilege he thinks he deserves, no matter how many lives he destroys in the process of his own vanity and head-up-assery. Doubly so if those people are the sort whose lives don't matter to the kind of losers who stan such characters.