#everyone who's been following me since the iw days....y'all are the real ones for still putting up with my occasional essays abt it
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caatws Ā· 2 years ago
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iā€™m back to yell again bitch! why are characters grieving vision vs gamora treated so differently by both mcu canon and fandom???
iā€™ve been saying for the past 5 years how, when ppl blame peter for the avengers losing in iw when he lost his cool on titan after hearing thanos literally killed gamora, itā€™s hypocritical for these ppl to not also blame wanda and the other avengers, bc them delaying sacrificing vision to the literal last minute also directly contributed to thanos winning.
while vision had put wanda in the position to sacrifice him and she said no, gamora had also put peter in that very same positionā€”and he said yes. and he was gonna do it, even though it pained him. wanda was only ready to do it when their backs were fully, completely, against the wall, and it was literally the final thing standing between them and thanos getting all 6 stones.
while my problem for years has been the lack of equally blaming wanda while blaming peter for behaving out of the same motivationsā€”acting out of love for their partners, who were reduced to thanosā€™ pawns, and wanting to defend/avenge themā€”now considering everything else going on with gamora in the time since, thereā€™s an extra layer to this that just has me...hm.
when wanda and the others act on behalf of their love, and eventually grief, for a white male character...itā€™s understandable, itā€™s valid, itā€™s relatable, itā€™s fine.
but any time peter has acted on behalf of his love and grief for a woc character...itā€™s treated as the reason thanos won and half the universe died. itā€™s considered an impediment to other characters, even in his own team who also once called gamora their family. itā€™s still relatable and understandable, but it is emphasized as an obstacle to overcome in a way that i donā€™t think wandaā€™s love and grief ever was.
wandaā€™s grief was so complex, so tangible, it spawned a whole show abt the ways we grieve and how it can become a dangerous part of our lives. and in the end, weā€™re made to sympathize with wanda still.
peterā€™s grief has still gotten its moments, but itā€™s been treated as a solitary experience the rest of the gotg donā€™t partake in, for whatever reason. when his grief causes him to act destructively or disruptively, itā€™s not given the ā€œi support womenā€™s wrongsā€ empathy by fandom. sure, itā€™s still made out to be something we can sympathize or even empathize withā€”but thereā€™s a certain grace given to wanda and her occasionally villainous actions, motivated by her grief, that iā€™ve just never rly seen given to peter when he fucked up the fight against thanos.
frankly, i donā€™t know exactly what this means. is it yet another byproduct of both audiences and marvel studios themselves prioritizing and upholding the avengers franchise over the gotg? probably, in part. is it bc w*ndavision is a more profitable ship and (white) wanda is a more profitable character to explore the complex emotional turmoil of? oh, iā€™m sure thatā€™s an element at play. is it bc ppl like (white) wanda more than peter? thatā€™s definitely part of it and comes as a surprise to no one.
is it an intentional disparity in canon about how much a white character deserves to be grieved vs a woc character? i donā€™t work at marvel so i could never prove or disprove this with certainty.....but i think itā€™s an awfully interesting element to consider, bc regardless of intentions, it sure has a certain....impact.
it sure just leaves a Taste in my mouth abt what makes a character more or less worthy of grief than another. when vision died, wanda could uproot the very fabric of the universe in her grief and we maybe want to root for her. when gamora died, peter simply reacted in the moment, and suddenly heā€™s the worst character in the mcu and the sole reason that an entirely separate character, the actual abuser and murderer, killed half the universe and now we have to hold peter accountable for it like lmao bro???
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