#every 5 business days someone will post 'um you guys I think the 1st black companion wasn't that good' like they've reinvented the wheel
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leikeliscomet · 7 months ago
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I can't believe in the lord's year of 2024 people genuinely think 'Ten didn't lead Martha on and Martha is to blame' is an unpopular opinion. Like I would love to see what alt timeline existed when the fandom collectively stood behind Martha over Ten and he became the least popular incarnation in the show. Everyone keeps posting the same 'both sides were wrong' takes in the discourse but the minute we actually unpack Ten's side in question suddenly it's 'attacking' 'demonising' 'cancelling'. Everyone loves to cry about nuance and grace and yet accusing Martha of being a predator, sexually manipulative and controlling is perfectly acceptable bc you lot are only willing to explore moral complexities with white characters. Nah it will always be incredibly gross to me that after a decade of racism towards her the minute the fandom actually starts to unpack the misogynoir and actually empathise with Martha for once and has the audacity to criticise anything Ten does, his stans paint the narrative that Martha is the aggressor and her stans hold the dominant position in the fandom and by perpetrating misogynoir they are fighting the good fight against the mainstream narrative when they've been the popular majority since 2006 I've had enoughhhh
EDIT: I've already made a post like this but ah well if we're gonna do up old discourse I'll bring up the old debunking arguments
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reloha · 7 months ago
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@leikeliscomet: #this is why i dont like going on the Martha tags sometimes bc there's 1000 things about her we could be discussing and yet#every 5 business days someone will post 'um you guys I think the 1st black companion wasn't that good' like they've reinvented the wheel#and don't get me started on the misapplied aspec theory that gets thrown in with Ten and Martha... read some *Black* aspec theory abeggg
All of this. And today in a YouTube comments section, there was somebody saying they didn’t think Martha was hated, that people always hate the new Doctor or companion and then get over it. Not always, no, and this is not that. And the other day, an attack on Martha under the guise of defending Rose.
Just . . .
I can't believe in the lord's year of 2024 people genuinely think 'Ten didn't lead Martha on and Martha is to blame' is an unpopular opinion. Like I would love to see what alt timeline existed when the fandom collectively stood behind Martha over Ten and he became the least popular incarnation in the show. Everyone keeps posting the same 'both sides were wrong' takes in the discourse but the minute we actually unpack Ten's side in question suddenly it's 'attacking' 'demonising' 'cancelling'. Everyone loves to cry about nuance and grace and yet accusing Martha of being a predator, sexually manipulative and controlling is perfectly acceptable bc you lot are only willing to explore moral complexities with white characters. Nah it will always be incredibly gross to me that after a decade of racism towards her the minute the fandom actually starts to unpack the misogynoir and actually empathise with Martha for once and has the audacity to criticise anything Ten does, his stans paint the narrative that Martha is the aggressor and her stans hold the dominant position in the fandom and by perpetrating misogynoir they are fighting the good fight against the mainstream narrative when they've been the popular majority since 2006 I've had enoughhhh
EDIT: I've already made a post like this but ah well if we're gonna do up old discourse I'll bring up the old debunking arguments
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