#eschatology and death cults and conspiracy theories probably
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13, trying to prevent yaz from spiralling when they get separated: i need you to do a deepdive into eschatology
#fghgjhjhggh#'yea i know this sucks babe but we'll figure it out the fate of the world is on your shoulders i believe in you kisses <3'#like thats where you'll end up right#'find out when the aliens come try and take over'#eschatology and death cults and conspiracy theories probably#forced to sift through like centuries of that stuff for years on end trying to find the Real in all of it#and you cant.......stop. bc the world will end#i dont think you come out of that.................normal#even with the best starting condition you dont come out of that normal but yaz is like#functional only by virtue of her circumstances i think#she looks fine bc shes standing next to 13#i dont think shes normal under the surface#i dont think 4 years of apocalypticism left her untouched#dan either i mean i dont think anyone comes out of that untouched but these two are like barely keeping it together beforehand#can you imagine how WEIRD theyve become#can you imagine how obliviously and kind of unsettlingly weird they'd be in support groups#the others would get it like sure none of us are really normal anymore but like#i think they'd be weird#4 years of having to depend on each other and not knowing if you'll get back home and having to take The End Times seriously nonstop as a#matter of urgency and duty#and then losing the third member of your party?#dan and yaz will be so weird and fucked up#iknow im repeating myself but im just trying to put myself in the frame of mind of#having to take intepretations of the end times seriously for 4 years#when youre already like a lowkey suicidal person to begin with#i think if yaz hangs out with 14 she'll say such weird and fucked up things entirely obliviously and he'd be like O.O#she probably still has 1900 habits that show up unexpectedly#or like just miscalibrated. has to take a trip to another country and takes a train bc she forgets planes exist#has to look up somethign and just goes SIGH. gets her coat to go to the library. and ryans like ??? ive googled it#and shes like oh fuck google
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One of the most treasured pieces of my book collection is the 1989 compendium The Fringes of Reason. It originated as a special issue of the Whole Earth Review, the magazine that spun out of the old Whole Earth Catalog, looking at ideas and beliefs on and past the edge of scientific examination — the New Age, parapsychology, UFOs and saucer cults, eschatology, flat eartherism, and conspiracy theory. It runs just over 200 pages in 8.5x11, unlike the giant oversized and overstuffed Catalogs, but it uses the classic WEC/WER article-and-book review format to give detailed overviews and access to deeper sources. It's alternatingly overly credulous and witheringly skeptical — the articles and reviews are all signed, so you know who's believing what.
One of the articles that stays with me is by Robert Anton Wilson, who is probably best known as co-author of the Illuminatus! trilogy. The title is "Beyond True & False: A Sneaky Quiz with a Subversive Commentary". It starts simply with a 33 question true-or-false quiz, and then breaks down the very idea of answering any of them as definitively true or false.
As one example, he makes distinctions between truth and usefulness when considering scientific laws and the known or unknown locality of those laws. The proposition that "Water boils at 100° Centigrade" is true — on Earth, at sea level, but demonstrably false as soon as you take measurements in, say, Denver. "F=ma" — as far as we can tell, as best as we can measure, but we don't have proof that it still holds everywhere in the universe, or at all times.
The bit that most sticks in my mind, though, is the following quote, in regards to those who deny the proposition, "The Nazi government killed six million Jews":
"I merely observe that a conspiracy that can deceive us about 6,000,000 deaths can deceive us about anything, and that it takes a great leap of faith for Holocaust Revisionists to believe World War II happened at all, or that Franklin Roosevelt did serve as President from 1933 to 1945, or that Marilyn Monroe was more 'real' than King Kong or Donald Duck…. If we believe in a conspiracy of that size, we cannot fully believe in anything else, including the evidence that led us to believe in such a conspiracy."
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