#edit: sorry I got snarky again there in the middle in retrospect. basically I agree with you in a lot of ways I do feel guilty about all the
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You clearly misunderstood what I was saying on several counts.
One: I was comparing trans ideology to communism in that people use it for evil but that doesn’t mean the ideology is misguided- it was the same analogy as the one I made comparing it to mainstream feminism and to the French Revolution. I mentioned radfems because I was basically saying I hope you (as a radfem who likely entertains socialist views) can handle my talking about communism rather than going apeshit about it like most normies would.
Two: I was saying that the idea that “it will happen anyway,” and “people will do evil no matter what we do to try and combat it” is cynical. My usage of the word cynical was a precursor to me saying that it would happen anyway. I was acknowledging that it is a flawed viewpoint.
Three: I said and I bloody quote “Fair game though on the eurocentric/privileged attitudes in the ideology of it,” referring to transgenderism. This is literally acknowledging your argument and saying that in a sense you are right in that aspect. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Four: I also said and I quote “I agree that these people taking advantage of the trans movement in this way needs to be addressed” because I do agree on that, I don’t support, as I implied throughout my reply, the things these people do, the atrocities that are committed because of the movement or in its name.
I... don’t know if you knew this but a large part of what the trans movement has achieved and are promoting is gender neutral washrooms. To be honest I have thought many times before that that we just need gender neutral sports teams, etc. obviously one person thinking this fixes nothing I just thought I’d say it anyway. Again you don’t seem to understand that trans is more than just trans women- there’s also multitudes of afab people that are trans, I realize that if anything that concept just aggravates y’all I just thought I’d point it out. Personally (dear lord here I am making this analogy again), similar to communism and democracy, women’s liberty and trans rights are not mutually exclusive. I would suggest it is (very unfortunately) the way that the trans movement is being championed and the way that people are going about it that makes them not so. I hope for a future where the two movements can live in unison.
I am truly sorry about the things you and others have gone through. In that way I suppose you are justified in your venom.
Oh wow. Dude you are so racist ... yikes 👌🏼😔
Lmao in case anyone’s curious, this is from @discourser715 in reference to this ancient post he dredged up from god knows how long ago:
https://taramaclaywasaterf.tumblr.com/post/186188178453/dworkinlover69-porntellsliesaboutwomen
He reblogged it literally like seconds after sending this, as if it’s not blatantly obvious it’s him lol
Anyway I’m not wasting my time on this dude, so to make up for him using women of color as pawns in his pathetic mantrums, let me use this time instead to bring more attention to the Umoja Women’s Village in Kenya!
https://umojajewellery.com
They’re an exclusively female-only village made by and for women and girls as a safe haven from male violence such as rape, forced marriage, and female genital mutilation. I found them through a post on here awhile ago, so I figured I’d share so others can learn about them too. They even sell handmade jewelry and keychains, where 100% of the proceeds go to the women. I have several of their pieces (the Mshale necklace is my absolute favorite, Im someone who doesn’t really wear jewelry but I hardly take this necklace off!!!) and I’ve bought a lot as gifts for holidays/friends’ birthdays, and every piece is absolutely stunning and SO well made. And if you just want to support them without buying jewelry, you can just donate to them instead! So go support these amazing women instead of arguing with men in dresses online! It’s a much more productive, worthy, and feminist use of our time and energy.
#this ends on a somber note but I think it deserves the respect of that.#congrats bro you earned my respect. obviously you do not need the validation or anything but its nice to understand fully where it comes#from.#I stand by my analogies about the trans movement though like I said in the 2nd last paragraph it is how its being used that is wrong as well#as portions of the concepts but the underlying sentiment is not ill-willed#edit: sorry I got snarky again there in the middle in retrospect. basically I agree with you in a lot of ways I do feel guilty about all the#horrible things that happen to women and I do believe that the trans movement needs to move in a new direction and cancel all the creeps#that are using it to be disgusting and evil to people#I also acknowledge that yes I am inexperienced yes I did become ‘philosipher debating something with sweeping statements as though it isnt#really happening and as though there arent real people being hurt’ and I will endeavor not to fall into that troupe as much in the future#edit of my edit: I would suggest though that most terfs are not for ‘third gender washrooms’ etc. theyre for trans people going to psyco-#therapy lmao.
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