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mysticcrownwolf · 9 months ago

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Ok so I actually agree with @darkdrin6 here because your side of the argument is full of half-truths and leans so much towards people not knowing the full source material or else it's easily disproven but before that, there are some points I need to address

You went through OP's Blog and dug up a 7 month old of OP swearing at NRS the organization who you also openly criticise for how badly they treat character stories to use them swearing as the basis for your closing statement to give yourself a sense of mortal superiority in this discussing because OP never swore at you only how bad the story of MK1 is and how badly NRS handles character backstories of an character who isn't Hanzo.

I actually went to your original post and you literally hid all the comments OP made

This already shows me that you are not willing to take constructive criticism of any kind because it seems to me that you believe that the OP is criticizing you the writer rather than your analysis which is totally false narrative. All evidence that I give here is because I believe you made some mistakes in your MK11 Kuai liang post. Let me make it clear this is in no way personal criticism towards you as a person just one of your posts and its responses.

So lets start with the point I found the most wrong in your post that OP didn't even mentioned

"The reason why he was so eager to make peace with Hanzo was his fear of him. Hanzo already killed the first Sub-Zero and Kuai Liang, the second and weaker Sub-Zero, didn't want to share his brother's fate."

Anybody that knows anything about Mortal Kombat knows Kuai Liang defeated Scorpion in Shao Khan's Koliseum. A younger and weaker Kuai Liang has already defeated Hanzo at his most powerful why would he have any reason to fear that Hanzo can harm him

Also since you don't have time for multiple media they also reference this in mk11 intros which your whole post was based on

"Saying something like this about a fan theory when the actual source material itself has more plot holes than swiss cheese is wild to me.

You seem to forget that MK is a fighting game, the lore itself doesn't even add up in some places. Just look at the dialogues and how many of them contradict themselves. You can't possibly argue that anything about MK lore is logical, but sure, go off."

But that is what your whole post is based on Mk11 and MK1 intro dialogues if you yourself admit that they contradict each other maybe don't take them as the only base for your analysis.

"Let me just say, I love the gaslighting in this, especially in the last phrase."

My god please google what gaslighting even is before just throwing the word around willy-nilly. Telling you, that you are entitled to your own opinions and by extension your biases is not gaslighting.

"You know, there's a difference between being wrong about something and blatantly lying. You have every right to tell me I'm wrong. I even admitted that I'm wrong, yet you accuse me of "ignoring evidence" and "lying". Like, it's a goddamn video game, why would I go out of my way to make up oh so evil lies about a pixel character? With all due respect, it's getting ridiculous."

Because you are equating your self-worth to your writing and analysis which isn't a bad thing you have a lot of posts that bring up great nuances and points that you should feel proud of but that same sentiment is hindering you in seeing things from a different perspective that's not your own. It's why you are being so defensive as if the op is criticizing you as a person rather than your writing because you consider your writing a part of yourself.

"Fair enough. I was wrong and I'll gladly admit it. However, I'm an adult with a job, I have more important things on my mind than memorizing every small detail from video games I played decades ago. Still doesn't mean I "lied" as you claim. What would I gain from that anyway? As I said before, people can do their own research. I'd gain nothing from lying or "distorting the truth" as you'd like to put it."

You can read yourself how defensive you are being for the simplest point as someone looking from outsider's perspective it's easy for me to see. I would advise you to brush up a little more on the source material and probably try rereading all the posts without thinking any of them as right or wrong because that's what happening your post makes perfect sense in the context of the intro dialogues but OPs post also makes perfect sense because they are utilizing the whole story as their source material

"A bold statement considering you yourself are not very familiar with the lore if you called Noob a revenant when he's actually a wraith, but of course, you will say my criticism makes no sense because it is, in fact, you who can't accept it when you're wrong."

Just gonna leave this here.

Ok so this is not a personal attack on you I already thought your MK11 Kuai analysis wasn't that great as it has too many contradictions to the original story but I was too tired to make a response to it. Which is great because if this is how you treat criticism it wouldn't have worked anyway.

Anyway I still think it's very disrespectful that you dug through OP's blog to get a post of them swearing which was not even directed at you to make it seem like OP is just some deranged internet weirdo who is only throwing back slurs at your well written arguments rather than someone who can see the contradictions in your post and is pointing them out with evidence

Lastly you used this gif to mock OP but I believe it applies more to your posts because it seems you are comparing apples to oranges while being defensive because not everyone is

Edit He blocked me not long after I made this post so much for nuisance discussion.

The thirst to write some crap prevailed over laziness, hooray! Or it was spring that breathed a thirst for life into us, it doesn't matter. The important thing is that some time ago we came across a very controversial post from @evilbihan. The post.

We agreed with other posts by this author regarding MK1, but here we still want to object on a number of points. It is inconvenient to write all your notes in the comments, but there is something to say, which is exactly why we are writing this.

!Attention!: This is not an attack on the author, not a belittling of his dignity, not some kind of hatred and dislike. We want to note the controversial points in his statement and that's it. And if we've sorted it out, then let's go.

For convenience, we will split the post into the same blocks. We do not disagree with the whole post, but we will note these blocks too.

One more important warning: here we will only talk about the MK9-11. MK1 sucks cock like the latest harbor whore.

"Kuai Liang has always stood on the shoulders of others" and "Tundra as a character does not exist."

(Screenshot, so as not to be unfounded)

Considering that we are talking about the version of Kuai Liang from MK9-11 from here on, we will only touch on this version. But let's mention that the statement "Kuai stands on the shoulders of others" became legitimate only with the release of MK1, when he was given the role of Scorpion. More precisely, not even a role, but just a name that no longer stands for anything.

In other versions, adopting the name Sub-Zero made sense. And it was a plot event that was important to the character. It's like saying that Hanzo has never been able to protect his family and that makes him a bad character. No, this is the event that shapes the character. This is an important plot point for the personality and for the further path of life, a defining event, if you want to call it that.

In addition, it is confusing to mention that the character is supposedly less active because someone else saved him. In MK, characters often save each other. Yes, in the context of the post it makes sense, but in the context of the story itself, this is a completely logical development. No one broke out of the Cyber Initiative's control on their own, so it makes sense that Kuai was saved by someone. The very fact of the rescue says little about the character. Only that he was dear enough to someone to convince others to help. Besides, let's remember that he was immediately sent to spy, so it wasn't just kindness that played a role here.

"Tundra has never been relevant in Mortal Kombat until he took the mantle of Sub-Zero."

Well… yeah? Because that was the point of it. We had never seen Kuai before he became Sub-Zero, assuming the title after his late brother. This is literally his plot function, the point of entry into the plot. An event that also defined him as a character. This is analogous to the death of the Hanzo family for Hanzo himself (an important plot event) and his enslavement to Kuan Chi.

This statement is equivalent to saying that Hanzo, as a character, did not exist before being reborn into a ghost, and Johnny did not exist as a character before entering the tournament. It's just that the original source didn't bother to tell at least something more about Kuai (they just apparently didn't come up with this). As players, we simply don't have the "before" materials, because the creators didn't create them. In the plane of the foreseeable plot, the Tundra did not exist, but here we are trying to evaluate the characters as living people, and living people do not appear out of thin air. In the plane of lore, Kuai had years of life before becoming a Sub-Zero, but we just don't know anything about them, so this is a very controversial statement. Because it is based on some undescribed events about which we have little idea.

"The best proof of that is the fact that Raiden never even considered him for his team of Earthrealm's champions."

Raiden did not consider anyone from Lin Kuei as champions at all (he took Tomas to the team in MK9 because he was in the right place at the right time). And the reason for this is not that Kuai is an empty character, but that Lin Kuei are murderers, secretive and cruel, who indirectly collaborated with Quan Chi (their Grandmaster for sure, he took a contract from a sorcerer in Mythology). At the same time, Raiden does not express distrust of Kuai. So to say that Raiden ignored him because Kuai is not capable enough or not diligent enough is wrong. Because Raiden definitely didn't do it. In addition, it is with the adoption of the title of Sub-Zero that Kuai essentially comes to Raiden's attention.

Here, with all due respect, the stretching of the owl on the globe begins. From here on out.

Speaking of earning the mantle, a little clarification. "Scorpion" is just Hanzo Hasashi's call sign, which means nothing without Hanzo himself. This is not some kind of mantle/title in lore MK and never has been. You may have other information, but we've never heard of it. At the same time, as "Sub-Zero" it is not just a title, but a ancestral title that is obviously passed down in one family. Bi Han inherited it after his father's death, when he was very young. It is logical that after Bi Han, his offspring or his brother would have received the title. Because to be a Sub-Zero, you have to be a cryomancer, and cryomancers are now represented by one bloodline (not counting Frost). This is supported by the fact that cryomancers are descended from people from Edenia (which was confirmed not only in MK11). Their abilities are innate (genetic) in nature and cannot be transferred to someone else. Perhaps earlier, when there were more cryomancers, the title really had to be earned, but there are no more cryomancers (the reasons for their disappearance are probably degeneration, natural extinction of abilities, as well as violent deaths, since cryomancers belonged to Lin Kuei and moreover, they founded Lin Kuei).

In addition, this title gives nothing but a target on his back (metaphorically, of course), because even as a venerable warrior bearing such a title, Bi Han directly said that he could be killed for violating orders or failing. Outside the clan, the title of Sub-Zero is more of a minus than a plus. And within the clan, it is also a rather difficult burden. So Kuai didn't win anything by getting this title. Moreover, he got it legally, so the word "stole" does not fit here at all.

It is also worth adding here that Kuai really wanted to avenge his brother, since Bi Han's death turned out to be a heavy loss for him. From Kuai MK9's biography, we know that they are the only ones who were stolen at an early age (all other members of the clan, based on their biographies, were recruited in various ways at a more mature age), so it is logical to assume that surrounded by adults, Bi Han and Kuai were very strongly connected with each other. If you think we're wrong, then let's just remember Kuai's behavior in MK9. Smoke warns him that adopting the name Sub-Zero will attract unwanted attention, but Kuai says it's a way to honor Bi Han's memory (he doesn't even consider it a common title, which should have belonged to him anyway). He is definitely not without empathy, but in an attempt to catch up with his brother's killer, he leaves Sonya with a wounded Jax in her arms. He openly demands that Shao Kahn arrange a fight with Scorpion for him, although he must understand perfectly well that Shao Kahn is a powerful ruler, and the colosseum is located in the very heart of his empire. And it is very dangerous to make demands on the emperor of the Outside World in such conditions. And he doesn't care about that. His goal is revenge for his brother. If Kuai's motivation is false, then to whom and what does he want to prove? Who does he want to fool with this? Why would he pretend? Logically, he is blinded by grief, too young and reckless, and it seems to him that killing Scorpion will at least calm his grief and pain a little. It can be said that he really loved Bi Han (as much as it was possible in the conditions of their growing up, of course), because people take revenge for those they love.

Kuai Liang's biography in MK9. What is in the original, what is in our localization says the same thing - abducted, unlike other members of the clan. (we don't want to waste time installing MK9 right now to take one screenshot, so a photo from the screen may well be suitable).

Summarizing this block and responding to the last paragraph, which talks about people who considered Kuai MK9-11 to be kind and forgiving, we can only say that the fans really greatly distort Kuai's character, excessively whitewashing and softening his character. But Kuai is really not that kind of person - his personality has both positive and negative traits. He was not forgiving. The only time he showed strange mercy was when he let Frost, who knew the location of Lin Kuei Temple, leave. The scriptwriters could fix this by saying that Frost escaped on her own, and was not expelled.

But on the other hand, the statement that MK1 made Kuai a completely different character is also true. And then we will try to explain why.

Next @evilbihan provides an analysis of the dialogues of Kuai and other characters in MKX and MK11. And before we start talking about this, the most important clarification is that not all dialogues are canon. Usually people understand this, but we'll explain why just in case. Not all of them occur in canonical events (almost all of them occur in non-canonical events, to be honest). It can be assumed that the characters met off-screen before or after the events of the game. But, for example, in the MKX, the Revenant variations open up unique dialogues for a number of characters. Jax the Revenant has a unique intro with Takeda and Cassie, although he was healed before Cage was born (and probably Takeda too). Not to mention guest characters, characters who died in or before the plot, or mirror matches. That is, the characters could not meet, these dialogues could not happen, which means that there is a precedent for non-canonical dialogue. This in turn means that the canonicity of all dialogues is not absolute and it is completely wrong to believe them. The dialogues, which are strange and simply contradict the logic of the plot and just logic, can not be considered canonical completely. Nevertheless, this scheme mainly works for MKX and MK11, but MK1 claims to be more canonical intro. However, we will not yet claim that everything intro in MK1 is canon, because there are precedents for non-canonical events (the multiplicity of the canon is a separate topic, and we hate MK1 for its laziness and mediocrity).

About Scarlett: Kuai calls her a "perversion" because Scarlett is an artificial creation of Shao Kahn. Even if a different version of Scarlett is presented to us in MK11, for Kuai Liang she is still the same person that Shao created from blood. In MK9, she is a golem, in the MKX comic, she tells Mileena the phrase "I am the same "daughter" of Shao Kahn as you, half-breed", confirming her artificial birth. This is also confirmed by her ability to absorb blood through her skin (D'vorah says that she is aware of her abilities, so this cannot be attributed to learning blood magic from Reiko). In MK11, she says that Shao found her an orphan, but was it really? Or does she remember what Shao wanted her to remember? No one but her confirms this version. Scarlett in MK11 is obsessed with blood and longs to marry her "father", as she says in a dialogue with Sindel. She even has an equipment called "Shao Kahn's Seed". So Kuai is right in his judgment: She's a perversion.

About Jacqui's improvements: Kuai has undergone a violent transformation into a cyborg. This in itself is a cruel blow to the psyche (just read how people in reality react to trauma or a traumatic change in their body or appearance), not to mention that his mind and free will were suppressed. Kuai bluntly says that because of the CyberInitiative, he does not trust technology. He is a technophobe for quite logical reasons. At the same time, he does not call Jackie weak and does not belittle his talent, he only pays attention to the fact that she uses improvements, but there are no negative connotations in his statement.

Kuai does evaluate opponents, but from a purely practical point of view. He does not give a value judgment as a rule, but simply notes a fact or interprets a fact.

First, D'vorah is literally threatening Kuai. She is the first to say that this is their first and last meeting, making it clear that she is going to kill Kuai. What should he say to that? Be happy? This phrase has nothing to do with Kuai's words in MK1 about lower species, there is literally nothing in common here. Secondly, it is partly xenophobia. And you may be unhappy with this fact, but in the MK setting, xenophobia is justified, because there people are forced to deal with creatures that are mentally and biologically different from human beings and literally pose a danger. MK has never been smart enough to suggest a method of resolving differences between the races of humans and, for example, Tarkatans, let alone everyone else. Thirdly, the two above phrases are in no way similar to Bi Han's words about tarkatans. What kind of "elitist" worldview are you talking about if Bi Han literally expresses an adequate point of view regarding Tarkatans? They are dangerous. They are sick, they turn into bloodthirsty creatures who cannot control themselves. They're still eating other living things. There is no effective medicine yet, only something that relieves the symptoms. And it is available only to Mileena, who in the plot just showed that tarkata affects not only physically, but also mentally. Yes, these are living beings, and Bi Han's point of view is radical, but tarkata is like a mixture of schizophrenia and anthrax (or plague, if you like). It's not "elitist" thinking, it's damn common sense. And this cannot be tied in any way to Kuai MK1's words about "lower species" or to a response to a direct threat.

Tarkata is one of the cancerous tumors of this plot (ironically), and there are many problems and understatements associated with it. But we will talk about this in more detail in some other post. And now let's be brief.

NRS tried to show an allusion to AIDS, but in the end they created a really difficult topic that would not be discussed properly in the plot. It's easier to pretend that Tarkatans are just sick people who can integrate into society. But they can't. Bi Han expresses a radical point of view, but it is not without meaning. Yes, it would be more merciful to provide them with comfortable isolation and allow them to depart from the other world humanely (they die from tarkata, as we know from the plot). The creation of some kind of closed hospices would be an option, but Edenia does not have it. It turns out to be interesting. Bi Han, with his rather sane approach, is considered a cruel bastard because of this phrase, but the merciful Sindel, who simply exiled sick subjects to the wilderness, where they had to die of disease and starvation, who took care of creating a cure only when her daughter became infected, is kind in this plot.

No, it literally proves nothing, because it's not even some kind of specific formulation in a specific situation. And they literally talk about different things. Here, friend, you keep stretching the owl around the globe.

The use of the same words in different situations (and approximately the same ones too) does not mean similarity of views. Because, you know, dictionaries tend to be limited.

(By the way, here Kuai literally shows that he is not very good at the history of his native world, because in the history of the Earthrealm there were at least Mongols - a nomadic people who built a fairly large state. That's a strange remark. MK11 dialogues seem like a neural network was writing, to be honest.)

As we said above, no one but Scarlett herself confirms this version. For Kuai, she is still considered a golem, as in MK9 and the MKX comic. Besides, Scarlett is his enemy. They are literally on opposite sides of the barricades. Scarlett faithfully serves the one who longs to enslave the Earthrealm, and who has already made attempts before, which led to the fall of Lin Kuei, to the cybernization of Kuai, to the invasion of the Earthrealm and many victims. Scarlett is an enemy of the Earthrealm, and Kuai does not care about her marital status. Why should he care at all? Moreover, why should he be polite or sympathetic to a crazy lady who is asking to join his clan, even though he didn't even invite her? It is not quite correct to compare it with MK1 and Tomas. But Bi Han does not reproach him for being an orphan, he only says that Tomas is not Lin Kuei by blood. That's all. He's actually right, Tomas is adopted.

Just what is the logic of this claim anyway? Scarlett and Kuai interact only within the framework of an open confrontation, they have no other points of contact. Scarlett is one hundred percent the enemy for the Earthrealm and for Kuai. And Kuai protects his world, he's like a soldier on duty. He shouldn't be interested in the life of some random blood witch and sympathize with her. It's like blaming all the characters for not wanting to understand Shao Kahn or anyone else. And don't pretend that Scarlett is better. She literally tortured Jade in the plot and did it with pleasure, she is not some unfortunate hero worthy of sympathy.

Correction: Frost joined the clan when Shirai Ryu was considered to have been re-exterminated by the hands of Havik (who possessed Fox). Frost joined the clan when the clan was just trying to start existing again. Frankly speaking, it is completely unclear where she got so much respect for the traditions of the clan, which she did not know before, and for Bi Han, whom she had never met. We are not going to say for sure, but it is much more likely that Frost was influenced by someone from the old Lin Kuei staff (because they could have survived and escaped from the CyberInitiative). Because Kuai has definitely been making the decision to reconcile with Shirai Ryu for a while. And yes, Frost hasn't really established herself as a decent character. Throughout its history, it has desired power and strength that it could not handle. Besides, if we turn to dialogues here, then in one of them Kuai asks if he was a bad mentor, to which Frost says that he was a hindrance. That is, she had plans to take Kuai's place during her studies, BEFORE alliance with Shirai Ryu (because after her escapade, she was expelled). The only complaint against Kuai Liang here is that he did not kill Frost. He let go of a man who is clearly unkind and who knows about the secret location of the Lin Kuei Temple. This could be solved with one correction from the screenwriters - the phrase that Frost ran away on her own.

Maybe (just maybe!) our localization is a little different, but Fujin is not saying that Kuai wants to kill his brother. He's asking about it.

Oh, yes. He also asks a question in the original.

The lie here is to claim that Kuai did not want his brother to be reborn. Bi Han is reborn like the rest of the revenants and probably cannot be healed without Quan Chi's presence (by the way, later in the post you refer to the need for Quan Chi's presence and the fact that his death essentially put an end to the return of enslaved champions). Kuai was lucky that Raiden's magic worked at a specific moment in a specific way. How lucky both Hanzo and Jax are. It was further stated that Quan Chi must be alive to save the Revenants. And Bi Han is a revenant.

Besides, Kuai has no reason to hold on to the title of Sub-Zero, because it gives nothing but danger. He is not useful, he is not honorable (five generations of Sub-Zero before him were murderers and made enemies). He does this because there is no one to transfer the title to. He wears it like as bloody chevrons, as a sign of his service to the Earthrealm.

We will not argue about the rest of the dialogues that relate to Bi Han (with Cetrion or others), or with Bi Han himself. The game acts very strangely and seems to be trying with all its might to put Kuai and Bi Han against each other as enemies. We have already written about this here and do not want to repeat it.

Since the block with rhetoric and analysis of dialogues is over, we will summarize. Kuai Liang in MKX and MK11 is a man who has been through a lot. He was kidnapped in early childhood, deprived of his family and normal growing up (we still remember about his biography MK9, which says that ONLY he and Bi Han were stolen, the rest joined voluntarily in adulthood), his brother was killed, his clan was turned into soulless iron, he himself was turned into soulless iron, he was murdered Sindel (by the way, who was resurrected by order of Shao Kahn and sent by him to massacre the champions; that is, Shao is indirectly responsible for Kuai's death, which means that his henchwoman Scarlett has even less chance of gaining any sympathy from Kuai Liang, even if she were an orphan three times). Kuai was enslaved first by the CyberInitiative, then by Quan Chi. Against his will, he participated in the invasion of the Earthrealm, and the memory of the horrors that he had committed consumed him with guilt. In the comic (which is still canon in many ways), Kuai literally talks about wanting to die. After that, he entered the service of Raiden and began to look for a Kamidogu for him, which is why he was cursed and again fell under someone else's control. Which again led to casualties. What did he say to Bo Rai Cho? "I have to do hara-kiri." The topic that Kuai is broken by these events and wants to die has been raised twice. He decided to revive the clan with the light hand of Raiden (it was Raiden who sent applicants to join Lin Kuei). In the new clan, Kuai finally finds solace, but in the end his own student, whom either out of mercy or stupidity he did not kill, breaks into the temple and kidnaps his people. Kuai has gone through a lot of traumatic events, just turning into a revenant is worth it. It took Jax years and years to suppress his PTSD, and he didn't fully recover. Kuai wants to protect his home, his homeworld. He makes claims to Ryden for not coping with his role as a defender. This is not very fair in the big picture, but Kuai saw with his own eyes the two invasions and the arrival of Shinnok. Will you say that Kuai does not want to defend the Earthrealm? Well, for some reason, it was he who led his clan to defend the Sky Temple and faced the legions of Kotal. It was Lin Kuei who took the hit and gave Cassie and her team time. Not the glorious Shirai Ryu, who just got into a fight with the special forces, messed up with their grandmaster and just disappeared without participating in the defense of the Earthly Kingdom.

There is no point in comparing Kuai MK9-11 and Kuai MK1, because the life of the second one is literally sugar. He did not survive a fraction of what Kuai Liang experienced in the previous chronology. Comparing them is like comparing a veteran and a loud cadet. Kuai in MK11 has every right to be grumpy, demanding of others and himself, suspicious of enemies and even allies. The events of his life encourage such thinking. From the height of his experience - both life and combat - he can be somewhat arrogant and proud of his skill. Because Kuai MK9-11 has a moral right to do so. Kuai-Scorpion does not have this right, he is just a loud brat who jerks off at his father and traditions (if we were Bi Han, we would evict him from the temple and issue a restraining order) Like a fucking fanatic. He doesn't have the same qualities, experience. Nothing. Even biology failed, depriving him of cryomancy. In fact, the personality of Kuai in MK1 is formed in a completely different way than that of Kuai in MK9-11. Because both the events of life (the social factor) and the biological basis are different. This is literally not the Kuai Liang we knew. This is another person who happens to have the same name.

Also completely overlooked is the fact that Kuai, in his dialogues, not only criticizes everyone and everything, but shows respect to other characters (with whom he is not in confrontation). So he suggests that Jade join Lin Kuei (probably because they have lost a significant part of their personnel and need new personnel). He recognizes Sonya's fighting spirit. He literally thanks Raiden for saving his life (although he remembers that Raiden has a dark and light state). He pays tribute to Liu Kang when he speaks about Kuai's own discipline.

Most of his statements are neutral or caustic (depending on the dialogue), Kuai shows hostility to those characters who are in confrontation with his side (the Outworlders or the Black Dragon), but nothing more.

And since we've dealt with this, we'll move on.

Kuai Liang's motives for revenge and forgiveness are actually as clear as possible when you remember that more than 20 years have passed. Why do you overlook this fact? 25 years have passed between the events of MK9 and MKX (the main plot) (Jax mentions this). Shinnok's invasion ended 25 years ago. And the reconciliation of the two clans took place five years before the events of MKX (this is stated in the plot). Kuai initially rushed to take revenge because he was blinded by grief, his pain was fresh. But then the events of MK9 happened, and now he is a former revenant, crushed by life, with the realization that he did terrible things. With a years, the thirst for revenge subsides, but the moral obligation suffocates. After all, your dear man died, how can you just let go of his death? Here we will allow ourselves to say that the motives of revenge are close to us because of personal experience. That's why we know what we're talking about. To come to terms with loss is, among other things, to let go of the thirst for revenge, to get rid of a destructive moral obligation. Kuai has had at least 20 years to think about it. Scorpion's death will not bring his brother back to him, will not soothe his pain. He believed that Bi Han was lost forever. He must continue to live, which means that he needed to put an end to a long-standing and senseless feud, especially considering that the real culprit is Quan Chi. It is he who must be punished.

To claim that Kuai was indirectly involved in the deaths of other Revenants is a clear misconception. Because, first of all, Kuai needed to give himself the moral right to end the senseless clan feud. Secondly, to protect your clan from a new conflict with Shirai Ryu. And third, damn it, this conversation (in which Hanzo found out the truth) took place five years before Quan Chi was captured. Five years! It's a long time. The fact that Hanzo has not thought with his own head in these five years is only Hanzo's problem. Should Kuai have foreseen this years in advance? He has enough headaches of his own, and at that moment he didn't know Hanzo well enough to anticipate his actions. Hanzo Hasashi is the only one to blame for what happened. It was he who decided to attack the special forces, not listen to anyone and cut off the sorcerer's head. No one pushed him to do this except himself, although literally everyone around told him to wait. Hanzo has shown himself to be a stubborn ass who doesn't know how to listen.

The scene of the conversation and the conclusion of peace between Lin Kuei and Shirai Ryu (chapter 9 "Scorpion").

Quan Chi has not been seen since the invasion was stopped. Sonya and Jax talk about it here (Chapter 8 "Jackson Briggs")

The same thing is in the Sony chapter (chapter 5 "Sonya Blade")

The claims that Kuai reorganized the clan just to elevate himself are simply taken out of thin air. Because although Kuai Liang is deservedly proud of his skills, there is not a single objective sign that would indicate that your statements about him are true. Where did this statement about him being narcissistic come from? Selfish? Kuai literally has no other life, he has put all his remaining years to protect the Earthrealm and hunt the scum within it (as he tells Kano). What is the selfishness here? What does he get besides constant pressure?

Perhaps there is reason to believe that Kuai wanted to put an end to Lin Kuei's dark legacy, but then again-who wouldn't? He talks a lot about honor, because he saw with his own eyes how dishonor and betrayal (the actions of the last Grand Master of the clan) led to the downfall of not only Lin Kuei, but also to larger tragic consequences. This is not selfishness, not a desire to "giving themselves a pet on the back." This is common sense and awareness of mistakes and their consequences.

Where did you get this from? The intros above do not suggest this in any way. Friend, it seems that you believed in what you came up with about the character. Kuai Liang strives for iron discipline, because he is well aware of how much damage has been done to him by the events of his life. And if he lets himself get weak, he'll just break down. And if he breaks down, who will stand at the head of Lin Kuei? Who will join the ranks of the defenders of the Earthrealm? As a responsible soldier, Kuai cannot hang a weapon on the wall because he is tired. And we have already cited above what confirms our thought (his sad experience, his desire to avoid repetition, the moral test that Kuai went through, etc.).

In addition, Kuai's envy of his brother (which is in no way confirmed by the game itself and other media) can only be said that many people would envy Bi Han, since he was really talented. It is said about him that he mastered in his youth what other cryomancers before him mastered only in old age. But again, this does not indicate Kuai's envy of his brother. There is not a single confirmation of this statement.

The whole subsequent text to the end of the block seems completely insane. To claim that Kuai was the only one who constantly survived, not because the writers wanted it, but because… for some other reason. The only reason is the desire of the screenwriters. Or perhaps an outright misunderstanding of what to do with the characters of Hanzo and Kuai (and many others). Where should they be placed? They look more like a link in MK11 and MKX than full-fledged characters. Okay, Hanzo has more plot weight because he's the creator's favorite. But everything else is just a weak plot, not the character's fault or intention. There is literally no place to analyze him as a living person, because Kuai appears only functionally in the plot. Well, maybe the studio hates him because so much shit has fallen on this particular character. He was enslaved three times, his family and friends are almost completely dead. It is wrong to say that he did nothing to bring Smoke back, because, as we remember, Quan Chi is needed to revive the revenant, there is no proven scheme, Quan Chi himself has been hiding for twenty-five years, and collectively the chances of revival are negligible. Personal aspirations are on one side of the scale, on the other is a job that will provide the homeworld with another faction of defenders. Kuai, who has gone through the horrors of two invasions, obviously will not choose personal aspirations. In addition, Smoke does not appear in the final chapters of MKX (only in flashbacks from the time of Shinnok's invasion), and it is unknown where he is. With Quan Chi's death, he can be considered completely lost (the rest of the Revenants are considered lost for the same reason, and there is no problem with that). And the fact that Bi Han survived in Soulnado was not known at all before the events of MK11. He was believed to be dead. Who should Kuai be trying to bring back? Ghostly shadows of long-gone loved ones? Prefer the dead to the living?

We can agree that Kuai's behavior in the intro and his ending are collectively confusing because they somehow contradict each other. But here you can find a dubious, but time-bound explanation. Considering that in all intros the Kronika is mentioned as still alive and active, it can be concluded that these fights and dialogues, respectively, take place in parallel with the plot of MK11. Which lasts… How much? A couple of days? In this light, it can be assumed that all of Kuai's strange reactions in the dialogues are either a defensive reaction, or simply the result of AI work (seriously, sometimes one part of these dialogues is not connected to another).

Oh, right, rhetoric again.

These dialogues are not connected in any way at all. There are only two identical words here that don't apply in the same context. This is not a common lexicon in this case and not the same specific reaction to the situation. These are literally different dialogues. And here you are really engaged in unfair interpretation.

We have already written about this above and we will not repeat it.

A fair comparison, however, the different circumstances that lead to this phrase. Bi Han in MK1 encourages Kitana to be more independent. Kuai in MK11 wants to get a valuable fighter into the ranks of his clan to protect his world. They use similar words, but in different situations and for different purposes.

Here we can agree on the similarity by about half (due to the difference in circumstances, and therefore the messages themselves).

We repeat that Kuai Liang in MK9-11 literally caught two invasions and the return of Shinnok. The latter happened because Raiden's Shinnok amulet, which he was supposed to protect, was stolen. That is, Raiden actually failed at his job. Yes, in the end, all three events ended well, but Kuai, as a man who laid down his life to protect his world and serve its interests, has reason to be angry at Raiden for his mistakes.

In MK1, Bi Han denies Liu Kang's authority for reasons that are still unclear. Bi Han wants more, but what does this have to do with Liu Kang? We, as players, know what Liu's mistakes are, but Bi Han doesn't know that. At the same time, we do not know why Bi Han is so fiercely against Liu's authority (he literally tells Kenshi, "give him time and you will understand," hinting that his dislike has some deeper reasons, but we do not know about them yet). It is also incorrect to compare these dialogues. We think there is no need to explain the reasons. Their context is strikingly different.

How is Kuai Liang considered the "good brother" when they both use the same vocabulary and share the same views?

The fact that they use similar words, but in different contexts, can only mean that they speak the same language, and not that their views are somehow close to each other.

Making such a statement is like saying that if a conditional user uses the words "cosmopolitan", "economy", "corridor" and "carte blanche" in his speech, then this makes his views close to one notorious Austrian artist who used the same words in his speech in 1939.

This is absurd and meaningless.

Yes, people say that because Bi Han literally demonstrates the character traits and biographies of Frost and Sector. He's not the best version of Kuai, he's not even a pale version of himself. He is a lazily written man who, in modern works, must be evil simply because. Bi Han in the old chronology was really interesting for his tragedy. He never wanted to be a part of the clan, he had no choice in this matter, in the original MK1 (literally in the very first game) in his ending, he leaves the clan because he doesn't need it all. His life was taken away cruelly and unfairly, he was just a man in thrall to circumstances, he was not shy about being sharp-tongued. After all, Bi Han from the past chronology, with his tragedy both during his lifetime and after his death, is many times more interesting than the piece of evil cardboard that Bi Han was turned into in MK1.

We will not stop at the fact that the decision to make Kuai a Scorpion is disgusting. We will not argue with this, because it is pointless to argue with the truth. Is he the best Sub-Zero? At least he was interesting, one of the few who really developed and changed as a character. As a result, his entire progression, motivation, and personality foundations were rewritten. Kuai Liang, whom we respected, although in some places we condemned, simply ceased to be. We hope that the NRS will choke on their money and never touch this story again.

And now to the comments that were posted. They are too small, so we want to answer in more detail here.

We literally took apart your entire post from beginning to end, not touching only what concerned Kuai MK1, because we want he burns in hell. And we still say that you are trying to substitute concepts. Their vocabulary is in no way similar (for the reasons we mentioned above). And as we have already noted, Kuai Liang MK9-11 grew up in different conditions than Bi Han MK1.

Lin Kuei himself is obviously different in different versions. If in MK1 we understand that this is closer to the traditional clan, which is connected by blood (both parents were in the clan, there is an opportunity to form a family, Bi Han refers to Lin Kuei's blood), then the early versions of Lin Kuei are more like the cult of assassins, who are united by the desire for influence - political, material and td. What kind of parenting with the idea of superiority are you talking about in the framework of MK9-11, if we have already found out that Kuai and Bi Han were abducted as children, and all the other members of the clan joined him. The biography of the Sector in MK9 literally says that there was no doubt that the Sector, being the son of a Grandmaster, would join the clan. Cyrex joined the clan as an adult, and previously he was from among the Tswana and trained among the warriors of his people. Tomas is from Prague and was also recruited at a fairly conscious age, because he attracted attention with his abilities. His exact age has not been named, but it is said that he does not remember his childhood, which means that he was hardly a child at the time of recruitment. Based on this, Bi Han and Kuai Liang are the only children who were raised in the clan. This means that there was no general idealogical system for education (we don't know much about Lin Kuei at all, but the Grandmaster decided to make everyone cyborgs for absolute submission, so we can assume that there were precedents for disobedience). The clan system in MK1, although it requires following orders, does not threaten death. But in MK9-11 (for which Mythology is still canonical), the mistake is inexcusable. Bi Han bluntly says that his failure or disobedience would mean his death at the hands of his own clan. Lin Kuei's in old chronology is a violent militarized cult, not a family. Yes, it is possible that one bloodline is present there, but it is needed only because of the special abilities (cryomancy) that give the clan an advantage.

See the difference? This already denies the possibility for Kuai MK9-11 and Bi Han MK1 to grow in the same conditions. Hell, even Bi Han MK9-11 and Bi Han MK1 are different people because of their different upbringing and different life experiences. We think that it makes no sense to explain that a personality is formed on the basis of a biological basis (psychophysiological features) and social impact, life experience. With a difference in life experience, different personalities are formed. It is for this reason that we consider the ending of the Scorpion invasion to be simply insulting and sad. The very concept of multiple timelines essentially contradicts the concept of personality. But this is such a truism that it makes no sense to explain it. In MK1, people have the same names and partially similar biography elements. And this already means, in fact, that Mileena, Kitana, Raiden, Lao, Bi Han and all the others are not the same ones we saw in previous games. These are literally other people.

#kuai liang #mortal kombat 11 #reblog

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florbexter · 3 years ago

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I am so annoyed!! Why can't people shut up about things they hate? Why make the fandom and tag a negative place????

The truth is, I have no idea which fandom you mean because my dash is a highly curated happy place just for me and tbh every fandom has people and theories and phases that suck. And I want to hug you and tell you that everything will be fine and I hope I can give you some thoughts on this: ��

The thing is: yes, I also don’t understand why someone might waste their energy on things they hate and/or dislike, I learned to pretty quickly drop something that doesn’t bring me joy but that too was as I said something that I had to learn over the years.

AND just because I wouldn’t waste my energy on negative things doesn’t mean someone else might think/feel the same. Maybe someone has no other place to vent, but the internet? And it’s not my job to regulate the internet and what people post even tho I understand that it is pretty annoying when people don’t tag their content properly or rile you up with their posts.

There are often two types of negative voices in fandom:

People who speak about positive and negative things on the show (either in a very deep way or superficial ways) and from them can spring a lot of joyful conversations and sometimes yes, you can get hung up on something that bothers you and you might talk about it for longer etc pp but who hadn't had those times?

People that shame/hate on a fandom/series/actor/person etc

And how to distinguish between those two is a thing that you have to decide for yourself because the lines can be blurry and it depends on how thin or thick your skin is when it comes to neg critisism on your favourite show.

It drains your energy to talk against those voices and you have to decide if that is really worth it.

What you have to keep in mind is that it doesn’t matter how eloquent or sure someone sounds, that doesn’t make someone necessarily right, it also doesn’t matter how popular or loud someone is, because there is a thing called validation loop, when someone gets ask after ask that reinforces their believes, they will of course not stray from their path. And those voices might sound like a lot but often it’s only one or two people who send ask after ask because a validation loop is something powerful; it’s the same as when you gossip together with your besties and feel closer to them after it because you are on the same page about something or someone.

It can get really frustrating I get it but the truth is you and you alone decide what is on your dash/feed. Blocking/Soft-Blocking/Filtering shouldn’t be the last resort, it should be the first thing you think about when you get annoyed.

I am not a neutral Island. I have strong dislikes and likes and stuff I get annoyed about pretty easily and I know the feeling of being so riled up about someones wrong opinion (in my mind) but the frustating truth, again, is that you can’t regulate people on the internet. You can only regulate your own reactions to it.

And I just take a wild guess and assume you talk about a Thai BL fandom because that's mostly what I am blogging about and I would highly suggest to everyone who is involved in those fandoms to inform yourself about White Saviour Complex, Internalized Homophobia and Infantilization of South-East-Asian Countries (or any Asian Country really) and their citizens.

Please do something for YOU and yes, if you want to discuss/interact with neg voices that's totally valid if you have the energy, but you don't have to. You don't have to try and dispute every take. Try to find mutuals that share your opinions or if matters get worse, try to find another platform where it might be easier to filter out noises that upset you.

#ask #florbexter answers #fandom talk #i know how frustrating it can get i really do but if you concentrate on negative voices it will only sour your experience further #also: if you send anon hate then quite frankly you are the one in the wrong

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roo-bastmoon · 2 years ago

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Taekook seeming closer and having more moments now does NOT work in Jimin's best interest at all. In fact, it has only made the cultists worse because Taekook can't breathe near each other without them running to Jikook blogs to "boast" about how Jungkook is so comfortable with Taehyung and hates Jimin, or they do those "spot the difference" posts to push the narrative that Jungkook looks uncomfortable next to Jimin but very happy with Taehyung. . . And I personally do think that Taehyung (1-2)

has some kind of agenda with the way he's been behaving with Jungkook lately. He makes it so obvious that he's feeding his shippers. He's also been behaving very suspiciously when it comes to Jimin. He hasn't initiated any skinship with Jimin in a while, doesn't look like he likes it when Jimin initiates with him, and barely even mentions Jimin anymore. It's just so weird to me... like, how did things change so fast? He was smitten with Jimin just a few months ago. Tae gives me shady vibes (2/2)

Okay. Whew. This is a lot to unpack and it's a bit like unpacking a ticking bomb. I really hope this doesn't blow up all over my page. Everybody be cool, okay?

Let me start by inviting you in, instead of calling you out. I think it's normal to have thoughts like this, but these ideas are borderline anti and it's our job to take the reins back and remember the facts.

BTS being super affectionate with and knowledgeable about each other does work in favor of any closeted couple because it gives them some cover ("Oh, they all do that, it's no big deal!").

While JK did mention he monitors everything online, I don't know how much attention any of them pay to English-speaking social media, where the majority of Taekook fans and antis get loud, I am told. In any case, the cult is really ramping up, and I'm not sure how much of that is being fed content or them inventing it (Christ, the conspiracy theories would be laughable if not so disturbing). I'm also not sure if they are getting louder because more and more casual fans are becoming Army (BTS has exploded around the globe since the pandemic) and it's just easier to watch clips than contend with 9 years of content, some of which requires payment.

Please separate in your mind what antis do and what Taehyung and Jungkook do, and only attribute qualities where appropriate. Tae and JK would never disrespect or wound Jimin on purpose. That would just be so very out of character. It would also damage BTS and that would go against their own best interests.

I do sense that Tae is leaning into his relationship with JK more this year, but, I don't attribute any nefarious underhanded reason to it. He could just be finding more comfort with JK at this point in his life. Relationships are like music; it's not just one note for life. I was also really delighted to see how much time Tae spends with Jin in his home, or how absolutely enamored he is with Hobi and Hobi's work.

As for behaving suspiciously with Jimin... while I have noticed Jimin initiate more this spring with both Jungkook and Taehyung, they all actually seem completely fine with one another. Remember that it was Tae who posted a selca with Jimin with the caption "family" when he was hospitalized; it was Tae and Jimin who Facetimed and did pull-ups together when Tae was quarantined; it was Tae who looked at Jimin in his Seoul concert red mesh top like he was having an extremely non-hetero moment; it was Tae who carried Jimin on his back during the rehearsals and the concert; it was Tae who looked at Jimin like he hung the moon during the Grammy behind-the-scenes video; it was Tae who shared utensils and sang jazz scat and giggled uncontrollably with Jimin so sweetly during Vegas Vlive; it was Tae who sang all of With You on Vlive first; it was Tae who cackled and shook Jimin "awake" when he pretended to sleep through an endingment; and it was Tae snuggled up on the sofa next to Jimin during post-concern Vlives in Korea. Jimin cuddles, kisses, touches, and teases Tae all throughout 2022, and Tae may not always initiate but he warmly receives. Vmin are alive and well. We just aren't getting as much content this spring as we would if we had weekly shows. So hang tight. Let's check out things in the new Run episodes.

It's the "shady vibes" comment here that has me concerned, because you're assigning malintent without really seeing more than a sliver of their full reality. I worry that this is happening because so many Taekook fans are shady, and lie, and pretend to be OT7 while actually having horrible motives. Do not fall into this trap! Let BTS be your guide on this. None of the members side-eye any of the Taekookery; this is just a normal day ending in Y for them. Jimin never seems bothered, sad, jealous, or tense about it. In fact, Jimin seems to adore Tae just as much as ever. Trust them. Jimin hates fake idol shit; he flat out told us. If he felt Tae were up to something, including feeding his shippers and antis, I don't think he'd reach for Tae as much as he does. Jimin is kind but he is not stupid.

All that said... I do think it's now becoming clear to Tae and hopefully all of Hybe that Taekook fans will harass fellow artists and jeopardize brand deals over their ship. And I would hope that, at least on camera, Tae calms Taekookery down a bit (I hope off-camera they are as close as they want to be and incandescently happy as well). I'd love it if he'd address it head-on, but there are real risks with that.

So any time you have these really negative thoughts, do what I do: imagine them as unwelcome guests and ask them to leave. There's only room for love in a true Army's heart.

Take a tip from Tae here: stay focused, brothers.

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szecretary · 3 years ago

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info about my blog under the cut, if you’re the kind of person that needs to know. have a nice day 💜

non-exhaustive list of obsessions: avatar the last airbender, legend of korra, the kyoshi novels, voltron: legendary defender, the camp half-blood chronicles, the all for the game series (and anything that is to my fancy at any moment.)

about me and my blog.

you can call me kay ✨

i am on ao3 as kuarahy. i've only written for two fandoms so far.

english and spanish, mostly english unless necessary.

i spend a lot of time analyzing canonical aspects of the shows i watch, trying to figure out why they resonate with me. i also like exploring fan-generated ideas that could fit in there and make sense in context.

i studied literature for a bit and never got over it, you can expect a lot of overly enthusiastic rambling from me because of this. i have a passion for storytelling and literary theory, but i am not an expert on anything i talk about.

i’m here to talk about things that make me happy, and i value respectful discussions about the less-than-perfect aspects of the content i consume, so if you’re of the Everything Wrong With school of media criticism, then this is not the place for you.

fandom stuff.

i love ATLA and TLOK equally.

i’ve read a fair share atla/tlok comics and consider them all canon, if you like to pretend they don’t exist, this isn’t the blog of you, friend!

i REALLY like the kyoshi novels. i’d give f.c yee a hug if i could.

i unironically like all 8 seasons of VLD and i still find many positive aspects even with the mess they made. yes i will still praise these positive aspects. no i don’t care about the ship wars.

ocassional marvel/percy jackson/hadestown posting.

i have most harry potter/marauders and related content tags blocked. i am slowly going back to this childhood interest but i don't wanna be overly exposed to it just yet. i am curating my own experience, but this doesn't mean i'll be upset if people i follow don't tag things properly. this applies to every piece of media i consume.

a very recent obsession of mine is the all for the game series, i try to be good at tagging but i'm not always successful, and this series has a lot of triggering content embedded into it. please be careful when navigating my ramblings about it.

on shipping.

you will notice that i post about various ships in my blog. this might seem strange if you’re used to people only blogging about their otp to the point of making their “rival ship/notp” a dni criteria. this does not happen here. i don’t mind shipping, i think it's fun, and i will even reblog shippy fanart, mostly because i’m a sucker for romance and pretty art. that is the extent of my enjoyment of most ships, both canon and noncanon. i like romance, and it’s fun to read and write idiots falling in love in different ways and worlds, but it's never too serious for me.

my love: [ insert phrase ] tags are for all kinds of relationships, not just romantic ones.

i don’t take shipping seriously enough to entertain discourse about it. these characters are paper dolls to me. idk how else to make this more clear, do not come here to argue about ships or how or why some might be the worst thing to exist on this planet since global warming. i am a grown adult who knows how to discern reality from fiction. i've got a job and other stuff to worry about, DO NOT even try.

anti behavior of any kind is a bad investment of your time, pal.

my url is a play on szeto and secretary, because i’m a tired college student and he’s the closest thing to that, as the only nerd avatar we know of.

that’s all~ if you want to be mutuals and even friends, my inbox is always there.

#about me #sze.log

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lucidpantone · 4 years ago

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I don't think your "connects" want YOU to move "spoilers" around, let's be honest wtFOCK haven't move for a reason!! they probably have a plan and they have a way to do things!! and that's nothing to do with "spoilers"!! why you all people think this?, contrary to that I think any actors and any cast or any show appreciate spoilers on any form so in a way this is irrespectful for all of them.

Now whoever is talking to you (IF they're real) they probably don't have any respect at all either and/OR they just want to talk with someone about the show spoilers (it's hard to find someone that like spoilers I know it myself because I do enjoy them but fans get super crazy about it) but that doesn't mean this person(s) is asking you to post them.

Other thing, the show haven't done ANYTHING to make fans believe this weekend something was going to happen, the "leaked" hate/plot accounts wasn't for fans to find easter eggs at all!!!!!hahaha was literally for a scene, I was there! I was an extra that day.

So I really think you all are looking for things were things don't exist at all, and they probably gonna do their whole promo thing at some point and still fans gonna engaged to it.

Now this is not hate, I in fact love your blog (true or not all about your connects) I really enjoy reading your theories BUT honestly you should stop encouraging your audience for stuff aren't happening and in fact takin more days for enjoy and live your life.

wtFOCK "spoilers" is not a job and no one is asking you to do them, your doing all this on your own, so go take your time as them are doing...

Anon I say this with respect but you have absolutely no idea how deep the spoilers go and where they come from and the inner workings of the spoiler machine. You do not know enough about who is doing what and when they are doing it and also which crew and cast is involved. So please don’t speak on something you don’t not know and before you say no one asked you to spoil.... once again you do not know what you are talking and because am not a total asshole I won’t throw people under the bus.

But the scenario you just depicted has happened so stop 🛑. Verbatim has happened exactly like you just imagined. I never said the spoilers are a job if anything I have said they are a community thing and I do it for the stans because I don’t have any interest in befriending the actors or crew. It’s strictly two entities operating in parallel and honestly the fans are the most relevant part of wtfock they make the show and am happy to do it for them. It’s the last season anyways.

Also I have a life dear. I have a very good job. I just brought an apt. I just became an auntie and am going to spend the month of June in the Hamptons (am vaccinated before anyone throws shade). Please don’t presume to know anything about my life because you do not and that’s on purpose. Remember your talking to a stranger who’s name you don’t even know. Worry about yourself!

#lucidpantone anons #also yes I became a home owner last week I didn’t tell anyone but am very proud of myself 😇

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roswelldetails · 5 years ago

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RNM 2x05 - I'll Stand By You

So just a little note from me, the person behind the season 2 detailing. I am trying really really hard to keep emotion out of these posts...which is really really hard for me because I'm an inherently emotional person. I'm a glass case of emotion, ready to shatter at any given moment. (#dramatic) But I want to be true to the intent of this blog and keep my feelings, biases, and, you know, shipping out of this blog.

It was really really hard to do with this episode. Because I straight up ugly cried for like, 45 of the 60 minutes. 😂

So I guess, the point is, I'm proud of myself and sticking to the details here. My regular blog is where I'm doing the emotional flip out thing! 😂

EPISODE SUMMARY:

ACCEPTING REALITY — The discovery of some complications with Max’s (Nathan Dean) pod forces Liz (Jeanine Mason), Michael (Michael Vlamis) and Isobel (Lily Cowles) to confront the possibility that they may not be able to save him. Elsewhere, Maria (Heather Hemmens) and Alex (Tyler Blackburn) make amends. Kimberly McCullough directed the episode written by Alanna Bennett & Jason Gavin (#205). Original airdate 4/13/2020.

DETAILS:

Max/Isobel/Michael reunite at age 11 according to what Michael tells Alex in 1x10. So that would make the opening of this episode set in 2002ish.

Michael tells Max and Isobel, "I remember you. I don't know you."

"After nobody adopted me for a year they just stuck me with the name of that trucker who found us."

"I didn't ask you for anything."

This is like the thesis statement of Michael's whole history with Max in the flashbacks.

"Don't pay more than you collect, kid. Passing credit back and forth is a good way to get stuck with somebody forever."

Rosa's art.

What I can see says: "...what they all told me, but I didn't listen" and "Stand the shelter".

Rosa on her dreams

"I have not had any freaky dreams in weeks. Okay, Max is probably off haunting Isobel now that they're strong enough for their psychic twincest weirdness."

"How long has that been happening?"

"Um, I don't know. It's an old boom box."

"Rosa, have electrical appliances been malfunctioning around you?"

"I really thought it was just a side effect of the handprint."

"If being in the pod introduced a new protein into your system it could have altered your DNA too. You could be developing abilities."

"Liz, look. The handprint is changing. It's smaller."

"It's fading."

"Tell me this is a good thing."

"I don't think so."

Michael and Liz theorizing on why the pod shorted out:

"The pod's got a charge. It's like a battery powering the preservation process. This one's gone dead."

"Did the generator blow the electromagnetic threshold?"

"I think a surge came from the pod itself. But that pod has lasted almost a century. It shouldn't glitch out."

"Okay, well, then, this one did."

"All right, stop. It doesn't matter why the pod is broken. It just is. So how long does Max have?"

"My theory is that being tethered to Rosa through the mark is what kept Max from going brain-dead, and in turn the stasis process is what kept the mark from fading. So he could be gone by tonight."

"Okay, well, we have three more pods. So let's just put him into another pod."

"No. He's just gonna do it again. I haven't told you everything. I didn't want to scare you. I didn't want to be the one that took the hope away."

"Talk now, Rosa. Right now."

"I was seeing Max in my nightmares months before I told you about it, and he was begging me to stop you. He said that he was in a lot of pain in there."

"That's Noah's pod. Noah told us it was broken. It wasn't keeping him in stasis. He could feel time passing. None of us thought of that."

"We've been doing everything we can to make Max stronger. He pulled his own plug."

Note...as far as we know Isobel was the only one who knew about Noah's pod being broken. In 1x12 it was before Liz arrived at the house that he told them about the broken pod, so only Max and Isobel heard that part of the story.

Alex on his training. "NSA intelligence cryptology training".

Monitor screen in the secret lab:

Noah's heart is still too weak to transplant. Kyle says it needs at least eight more weeks

"I wrote a paper for a bioethics class on patients in vegetative states who feel pain. Sometimes it's all they feel."

As a non sciencey person, I was wondering if bioethics class was a real thing. Tonight I saw an interview on the news with a UC Berkeley bioethics professor on COVID. So yes, it's a thing.

Alex on Michael that summer post-Rosa's death:

Starting fights with jocks

Broke into the drugstore

Not going to UNM

Hasn't hung out with Max all summer

Got busted for stealing hubcaps (Kyle's hubcaps, we learn later)

Became a walking bar fight

Was in jail when Alex left to enlist

Michael on Max in 2008:

"It's more than that. And it's less than that. We were friends when we were kids, but now Max reminds me of a bunch of stuff that I'd rather forget. The only thing that we have in common anymore is Isobel."

Max's yearbook had a pencil stuck in the page with Liz and Max's photo in it. (The one we first saw in 1x03).

"Biology Club. Max hated science. He was in that club for four years just to watch your sister chew on the end of her pencil."

Max's mindscape:

First just desert, clouds, and then lightning strikes (destructive energy?)

Liz's antennae -- they disappear from Isobel's hands

Rosa describes it as broken

Crashdown special is Max's favorite "Little Green Man milkshake".

The Crashdown counter is kind of merged with biology lab equipment.

The juke box is there

The Crashdown booths

Jeep

Neon Crashdown sign

One of those claw drop game machines (from the Crashdown) but it's filled with baked good displays.

The yearbook

Later, everything else is gone except the one Crashdown booth, the Jeep, and the neon sign.

The distorted music they follow to find Max is the Cactus Groove song in the music list...just, messed around with. See @angsty-nerd's post here:

"I'm the hothead. You are the hero. It's always been that way."

"You stole the hubcaps off Kyle Valenti's graduation present. Both his parents are cops. Do you want to end up in jail tonight?".

👀 Tonight, specifically.

Michael seemed excited about the job at Foster's Ranch until he found out that Max set it up for him. Max found out about it from his dad (only like the 2nd or 3rd mention of his dad in the series so far).

"When I got back in town I asked Max why you and your brilliant mind hadn't changed the world yet. He said you didn't care about the world enough to bother changing it. He believed you could."

Max and Isobel in the mindscape:

"You're okay. I could feel something was wrong with you. Everything felt…"

"Cold. I know."

"You can't be here. It's finally ending. I can feel it. But I don't know what happens if you're in my head when I die."

"So it's true? You want this?"

"I could feel my connection to the outside world getting stronger, so I snapped. I couldn't take it anymore. I released a surge. You have to let me go, Iz."

"I can't take it anymore."

"Okay."

"I am so sorry."

"I just want to memorize this."

"Okay. Okay. I need you to tell Liz something."

"You can tell her yourself. She and Kyle are prepping for surgery. They're going to use the faulty heart. She just wants to talk to you before you die."

"No. No."

"You won't be suffering. They're just gonna bring you back and then let you go."

"No you have to stop this. You cannot bring me back under any circumstances."

"Max? What is really going on?"

"I am dangerous. Whatever Liz is bringing back is not me. It's just some broken shell."

Maria on her mom's computer

"Her nurse said that for the two weeks before she went missing, when she wasn't trying to escape, she was talking to someone online."

The 21st birthday flashback

Isobel gets Michael to help move Max after getting drunk on tequila. He passed out in front of the tattoo parlor. It's the same tattoo parlor Michael goes to at the end of the episode.

Max's weird drunken statement.

"The thing is, there has to be there. Okay? There's always three. Until the very end. I'll show you...What it means is you should be here…'cause it's all broken without three. So we'll figure it out. You'll find your way back."

👀 Until the very end. Interesting.

On Max becoming a deputy:

"You know he did the whole police academy thing because of you, right? He thinks you're gonna get into the kind of trouble you can't get out of if you don't know someone."

Back in the mindscape:

"I figured it all out. She, there's an energy to suffering, there's an energy to death, and when I heal people, I absorb that energy. So when I resurrected Rosa, I took in ten years of emptiness. So if you resurrect me, you will be bringing back an infection. Don't want… I don't want to come back as a monster. I don't want to hurt anyone that I care about."

"That's what this is about? We've been hurting, Max. We don't work without you."

"You will! You will. You are stronger now than when I died. All of you are. You, Michael, Liz, you will survive this. The three of you. No, you need to stop them, Iz. Now."

"Okay. I love you."

"You too." Isobel disappears.

Max is using pretty similar wording to his drunken rambles in the 21st birthday flashback

We don't see that Max is chained down until this next exchange with Rosa. Isobel didn't see that detail as far as we know. Didn't hear the chains clanking when they stood and hugged. Only after Isobel left.

"I'm sorry this is happening."

"Isobel is lying. She is buying time. You know she'll never let me go. But you can feel the darkness too, right? That's why you don't like being in my head. Because you know it's real."

"I didn't want that to be true, but yes."

"I know my sister and I know your sister and they'll never give up. So you have to be the one to stop this surgery, okay? Or I will destroy everything that we love. You have to stop them to save them. Now go. Please, Rosa. Go."

Isobel explaining to Liz

"When he saved Rosa he absorbed all of that dark energy. He's gonna have to expel it."

"And he's afraid he's gonna kill someone when he does."

"Yeah. So we just need someone stronger than Max to take that hit...if he thinks he needs to protect us he obviously doesn't know how capable we are. Bring him back, Liz. I'll handle the rest."

"I get it now. It's gotta be the three of us."

"He would never pull his plug to end his own suffering. Unless he thought he was saving us from something. And I'm a little sick of his heroic martyr crap."

In case you missed it, Michael did not know that. At the beginning of the hospital sequence Isobel is telling Liz what she learned in Max's mindscape and says that she hasn't been able to get ahold of Michael. Michael figured it out on his own. He finally "got it".

The pacemaker:

Isobel with Max at the end… everything is gone except the Jeep. And Bright Eyes playing (the song he and Liz danced to on their first date back in 2008). And then his eyes close and Bright Eyes fades away.

“First thing I remember is the three of us. We woke up terrified and lost. But together. And then all of the sudden I was alone. I got real good at being alone. I had given up on people entirely. And then you found me again. Hell of hero move. You showed up just in time. When you are a kid who nobody loves, kindness is a currency. Friendship doesn’t means jack. Family just lies, and hurts, and leaves. I’ve only ever known love to be temporary. So yeah, I push people away. Every time someone threatens to care about me I test their love until they have to leave. Connection is conditional. Everybody eventually gives up on the guy who refuses to be rescued. But you were the only one who I couldn’t run off. You never believed me when I tried to be something I wasn’t. So this thing in your chest, it might give your heart a pretty solid kick every once in a while. Consider it payback. It’s my hero move, Max. If you wake up, you consider us even, okay? If you wake up, we can be a family.”

Good visual parallels during Michael's speech. Alex and Kyle drinking together during the "and then you found me again". Maria walking up on "the guy who refuses to be rescued"

Max is in the coma for three weeks. Wakes up at the secret lab (instead of his house, which is where he was previously. I'm guessing it was a planned wake up because he's no longer plugged into all of the IVs and whatnot.

"I begged you to understand."

"Max, it's gonna be fine."

"No… I told you to let me go. I can feel it inside me."

"It's...it's symmetry, okay? It's just energy for energy. We can deal with that. Fight it, Max. This isn't you."

"I don't want to hurt you. I need to get out. I need to get away from you, from everyone."

"I can't let you do that."

Max shoves Isobel and runs. When he shoves her there's a slight ringing like the sound they use when the aliens use their powers. Isobel follows and stops him with her powers.

"I made a promise that if you came back and you weren't Max, and you were actually going to hurt people that I would kill you. I figure, hey, you got to play God. Make life and death decisions all on your own. Well it's my turn now."

MUSIC:

1. Letters To Cleo "Here and Now"

2. Lady Antebellum "Love Don't Live Here"

3. Cactus Groove "Fallin"

4. James Talley "Big Thunder"

8. Ross Copperman "Stars Are On Your Side"

5. Lindsey Ray "Keep You Safe"

6. Tommee Profitt feat. Sam Tinnesz "With you Til The End"

7. Bright Eyes "First Day Of My Life"

The Cactus Groove song is the first song this season that I haven’t been able to find on Spotify… let me know if any of y’all had any luck with it!

#roswell new mexico #rnm season 2 #episode details #long post #rnm 205 #i'll stand by you

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msftbts · 6 years ago

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Personal stylist!Reader x OT7

(eventual) smut, fluff, slight angst & a bit of comedy here and there

Summary: You travel to Korea to start your new life as a personal stylist, expecting nothing more than to gain some job experience for the future, but seven sulky men make it difficult for you to stay in your lane and follow the rules. Will you stay faithful to your boss, or fall into the charms of another?

Notes: This chapter was so much fun to write, I love bringing out the personalities of the boys. Also I know y’all are anticipating when the smutty stuff is gonna happen, but...just wait

Warnings: mild cursing, mentions of alcoholism

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Chapter 3

You tried to brush off all your dirty thoughts and took Jungkook’s first outfit off the rack. It was time for you to get professional, there was no time for anticipating or being shy. You were done doubting yourself. “Okay let’s change you into these pants first”, you said turning away from him to take the pants off the hanger, whilst he dropped his pants down. When you heard the belt of his pants colliding with the floor you turned to hand him the pants, trying your best to maintain eye contact. And, well, to not look down. You got him dressed quicker than you expected. He was looking at himself in the mirror, looking pleased as he was turning around to see how the outfit fitted him. You went closer to make sure all the buttons of his shirt were tightly closed and straightened any crumbled fabric. “Those pants look slightly loose, do you think they’ll stay up on their own like that?” you asked him. He looked down at his pants, not really knowing what to answer. “You’re the professional one here, you tell me”, he said smirking to you. “You’re right, that needs a belt just in case” you said and went over the table to pick a matching belt. “Yeah, I don’t wanna pull a Jin out there”, Jungkook laughed. “Pull a Jin?”, you asked. “Yeah, Jin’s pants have fallen down on stage once and bro, that was the funniest thing ever!” Jungkook cackled and slapped his hands together. “Poor Jin! Y’all must be giving him a hard time for it, if you have even gone as far as naming a saying after it”, you tried to hold back your laughter, but couldn’t help but join him. Maybe you had been too quick to judge idols before, since you started noticing how well along you got with Jungkook, and how down to earth he was in front of you. Besides his outstanding looks, he was just like any other ordinary young adult, or atleast the extremely kind and funny type. He had a personality that made you feel like you had known him forever, because he was so chill with you. Maybe Melissa was right, maybe you would become friends with some of the idols. Again, not those type of friends who would hang out and do things together, but work friends. Friends who work together, but aren’t afraid to joke around and make it fun. You found yourself hoping for it.

Once you finally got done styling Jungkook and he had left the room, it wasn’t long until another tall man walked through the door. “Hi, my name is Namjoon, nice to meet you!” he introduced himself, with the most genuine smile you had ever seen. You were surprised by his good manners, and could sense the inner leader in him. You had been told earlier in your first meeting that Namjoon was the leader of the group. You introduced yourself back, and got started with the styling. It was noticeably more quiet, than it was with Jungkook, but you didn’t mind working in peace. Namjoon had an effect on the atmosphere, that didn’t make the silence any awkward, it was surprisingly comfortable, taking in the fact that you didn’t really even know each other. You couldn’t help but admire his full chest, while helping him button up his shirt. You did it sneakingly, though. Or at least that's what you thought, because when you felt soft breathing on the back of your neck, you looked up, only to find out Namjoon had noticed your staring and was now giving you a big smile with his dimples out. Your eyes got wide and your mouth slightly dropped: “Sorry! I didn’t mean to stare!”. “No, you can stare, it’s fine”, he reassured. It’s fine? You thought to yourself. Either this man liked being stared at, or he didn’t want to make you feel embarrassed, you needed to get your shit together. You were about to finish buttoning up his last buttons, when he suddenly grabbed your hands. “Should I leave a few buttons open then?”, he asked stopping you from closing the buttons. “I mean, sure if you want to”, you said nodding, trying to hide the fact that his touch slightly startled you and made you blush. “No, I’m asking your opinion here. You were the one staring at my chest, so does it mean you like it?”, he raised an eyebrow at you. “I-” you stopped, not knowing what to say, “Yeah it’s nice when it’s out there”. You had to get your courage up to finish that sentence, because you knew you were his stylist, and you needed to give your opinion when asked, or at least that’s what you told yourself to try to keep the encounter as professional as possible. You dropped your hands from his shirt and he fixed the collar, so his tan chest would peek through. He had a pleased look on his face.

You were quick to find out that Yoongi wasn’t the most talkative type, when the first thing he said when he wandered into the room was: “Save the small talk, I’m saving energy for the concert”. You couldn’t help but smile at that, when the smaller framed man lazily fell onto the chair. “We’re good, but I’m gonna need you to put these on for me”, you said and handed him his clothes. He got dressed quickly, and you picked up his casual clothes off the floor and put them away. While you were busy folding his clothes into a box, Yoongi had walked over to the table and started sniffing all the different bottles of cologne you had laid out. “Do you have anything else than these generic husky scents? All these do is work on me like an insect repellent, I wanna stay away from anyone who smells like this”, he complained putting down the last bottle. You scoffed at his statement. “So you wanna stay away from Namjoon and Jungkook? The previous boys practically lathered themselves with those”, you snickered at him. “Exactly my point”, he said without moving his lazy expression. “Hmm, well those were all the fragrances given to me”, you looked around trying to find a solution for his satisfaction. You went through your bag, but the only scent in there was your cheap floral Victoria’s Secret. You pulled it out to inspect it more, but Yoongi took it off your hand and sprayed a little bit of it in the air. “Mmm, now this is what I’m talking about”, he said and spritzed it all over him. You were surprised that such a cold man was weak for some flowery girly ooze, but it was cute. He marched out of the room, with a cloud of Victoria’s secret following him. “I think I made him happy” you thought to yourself.

After the quiet client Yoongi had left the room, you were faced with a loud crowd of three when Jin, Hoseok and Taehyung all barged into your room at once. You just stood there when they sat down on the to sofa in the corner of the room. “Um, who am I styling?” you tried to ask, but with no effect. None of them heard your quiet voice, when they were too busy laughing at each others jokes and playing games on their phones. You walked over to them, and took the phone out of Taehyung’s hand. “Hey-”, Tae let out as they all stopped into their places. “I asked, who am I styling here?”, you repeated, but clearly it was their first time hearing it, judging by the confused looks. “Jin will go first”, Hoseok said. Jin slapped him on the arm. “No! Hoseok is going first!” he yelled in defense. You rolled your eyes as the boys started bickering playfully together. “You can style me first”, Taehyung stood up from the sofa and smiled at you. “Thank yo-” you were about to say when he continued: “If I’ll get my phone back after that”. Hoseok and Jin had settled down to watch the situation from afar and started loudly laughing at Taehyung’s statement. You crossed your arms and pouted, while trying to think of a comeback. “Come on, cut her some slack, she’s just trying to do her job here. Let’s not get on her nerves on her first day”, Tae said turning back to look at Hobi and Jin and then gave you his most angelic smile. You knew damn well he did this only to get on your good side, so he’d get his phone back soon, but you accepted it, since it seemed to have an effect on the other boys. While you were dressing each one of them up, the others were being noisy in the background or making stupid comments to try to make the one you were dressing up embarrassed in front of you. Even though you were sure to give them annoyed looks, you knew that deep inside you were having fun with them, and you lowkey enjoyed the attention you were receiving.

While being busy looking after these three kids, you had forgotten about your biggest worry of the night. It, well he, was quick to remind you of it, when he stormed into the room. “Get out fools, it’s my turn with her”, Jimin stated out loud. “Doesn’t that sound kind of objectifying, Jimin?”, Hoseok said. “I’m talking about my turn to get styled by her, keep your dirty thoughts to yourself”, he snapped back and turned to smile slyly at you. You froze, not knowing what to do or what to say. You were hoping that at least one of the members would stay in the room with you and Jimin, because you were forced to face your much dreaded fear. To your disappointment, they all left at the same time, the decibels dropping painfully low with the atmosphere in the room. Once the door closed, Jimin stared at you curiously. There it was, the same damn stare that made you weak in the knees before. He knew too well what he was doing to you, and he enjoyed the power he had over you. “Are you going to undress me now?” he asked. You choked. “Excuse me, what?” “Yeah, are you going to undress me so you can style me?”, he said licking his lips teasingly. “Look, I think you got it wrong. I’m not the one who undresses you, I’m the one who gets you dressed up. Don’t get too excited now”, you gave him a saucy look. He just laughed at that, clearly being fueled by your reaction. You walked to the clothing racks. “Take your pants off”, you commanded. “Oh, going straight to the point, huh? Don’t you think it takes some foreplay before this part?”, he said with a strong sarcastic tone. You didn’t even bother to respond to that, and just threw his suit pants at him, which caused him to scoff and give you an offended look. “Woah there dancer!”, he laughed. “Dancer?” You questioned. “Don’t you remember how you busted out those moves at the gym the other day? I’d invite you to be a part of the danceline, if Hobi wasn’t so strict”. You felt your face heat up once again, and a mixed emotion of anger and embarrassment boiling in your gut. “You weren’t supposed to see that”, you said with a defeated low voice. “Yeah I figured when you ran away from there. Could you teach me some of your moves some day?” He teased and imitated your body rolls. You pushed the shirt off your hands on him and accidentally formed a little smile, when you noticed the comical face he was pulling. “See, I knew you liked me”, he smiled while putting on the shirt you shoved to him. “No I don’t Jimin”, you said. “I thought there was something in the way you looked at me since the first time you saw me”, he said and your face started heating up. Did he really feel it too? You really had contemplated if there was something in the way he looked at you from the first time you saw him, just like he said, but has he thought so too? “Oh, and then there’s the blushing. You seem to be doing that alot around me too”, he said as he quirked his head to the side to look at your reddened face that you tried to hide. You hated how right he was. Were you really that invisible? Your pride didn’t let you give out to him, and you quickly collected yourself. “Put this on”, you said and gave him a tie, trying to distract both, him and yourself from the ongoing topic. “Could you help me?”, he asked with a voice little bit too sweet. “What, you don’t know how to put on a tie?” You responded. He looked down at the tie on his hands thinking what he could say next. You were sure that this was just another way of his trying to get you closer to him, but his response took you by surprise. “No, I’ve never been taught how to. My dad was an alcoholic, and he was never around to teach me the manly deeds, so no, I really don’t know how to”, he looked deep into your eyes. You felt the guilt creeping up on you, and swallowed before answering. “I’m sorry, I didn’t know..but I’m here to teach you, I’m your stylist after all”, you said standing closer to him. “Thank you”, he responded and it felt like he finally put his guard down. You reached to his neck to put the tie around it and slowly started to instruct him how to tie it. He looked down at you, swifting between looking at your hands and your face as you were busy explaining. He wasn’t really even listening to you, but enjoyed seeing you being so passionate about something. “..and then you pull it and it should be in place, like this. Did you get it?” You finished teaching him. He didn’t respond and you looked up to him: “Jimin?”. You were faced with his calm eyes on yours. He was looking down at you like he was really happy that you were there. For once, you actually felt comfortable looking back to his eyes, not feeling like you were his target anymore. Sure, you felt almost vulnerable under him, but you could see in his eyes that he meant no harm to you. He slowly took his hands and cupped your face in them. You knew where this was going, but you wanted it too. He shifted his eyes to your lips, and you closed your eyes. Just as you were letting go of your professionalism, a knock on the door forced you to gather it up again. You quickly pulled away from him, and went to open the door. “Hi, oh my god I have to tell you everything! You can not believe what happened between Namjoon and me-, oh, you have a client here!” Melissa fussed. Jimin smiled at her. “No, we were just done here. Jimin, you can go now”, you hinted at him. He looked at you in defeat, but left the room. “Did I interrupt something?” Melissa asked. “What? No! Why would I be doing something with Jimin? It’s my first day of work, Bighit was very clear about-” “I was kidding”, Melissa brushed it off. “Oh”, you sighed.

Chapter 4

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soofection · 6 years ago

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jenkai discourse in retrospection

(long post)

to take a slightly more light hearted break from all the updates regarding the burning sun case, I propose a discourse of jxk in retrospection after gaining all the new knowledge exposed by the media recently

dont read if you dont want to, if you read please dont come attack me for posting what I want on my own blog 🥰

In no way is what I type facts, and I am NOT comparing burning sun case with jxk (jxk is so insignificant and jxk is not a criminal case) yet I will make references to what the media and companies are capable of doing as proven by the exposure from the b. sun case regarding similar behaviours.

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we now know that the kpop world is not what some once thought - an ideal fairytale land where idols/ the media never lie to us.

The truth:

We finally realize for sure that in korean ent. industry, sexual favours (in exchange for sponsors, promotion via media manipulation, basically fame and safety), offering prostitutes services... all in all using SEX is commonly used in return for connections / power / protection from the 'higher ups'.

why did jxk happen?

I propose: to cover yg x jni sex/sexual activities and jni has sponsors rumours (updated). After knowing yg is to a certain degree (personal assumption: large extent) involved in B.Sun and gangnam clubs, it makes sense to suspect that the jni rumour could be real. look up yg's past history, how he obtained his wife (emphasis, obtain). 12 years older yg 'fell in love' the moment he saw his wife as a second year middle school girl, recruited her at 16, ruined her career and married her. who knows how exactly yg treats his younger girl employees? Who is there to protect them?

but its just a 'groundless' rumour why was yg desperate?

to propose reasons: 1) it could be real, if so he HAS to camouflage it before it blows up further. 2) even if its not real, he didnt want to put bp's and his own name's reputation at stakes since bp is his most money earning group right now 3) if he doesnt make a deal with dispatch, who ofc are capable of digging deeper and they hate yg (proven by their ability to obtain kkt chats and exposing b.sun evidences) to supply them a fake scandal to cover ygxjni... dispatch WILL expose him. (also keep in mind jni has other sponsor rumour that might or not be true). and 4) - suggested by anon: yg could be taking precautions before b.sun scandal blows up. As we know b.sun revolves around sex crimes, Yg must get rid of the 'boss had sex with employee' label before b.sun blows up. Or else he will get dragged, it would be like adding oil on fire.

this theory is reinforced by allshitpop stating a media outlet discriminately announced 'the yg x jni rumour was false.' why purposefully mention it when no one asked?

but why ji?

main reason: hes an artist from sm. Yg desperately needed a scandal impacting enough to satisfy dispatch (releasing small unconvincing sandals will discredit dispatch's liability and reputation. ) But what to do when none of yg's male artists are popular enough to create a fuss nor any male groups's careers mature and stable enough to withstand the scandal pressure from the general public? the obvious solution is ofc to beg other big companies - sm or bighxt.

Most popular boy groups atm is still btx and ekso. honestly yg wouldve prefered btx due to their crazy fame, and jni will be their first dating scandal... the reactions would be DRAMATIC. yet in contrast to ekso, btx didnt really need to take that risk in hopes for more popularity. (rmb there would always be adverse effects when being involved in a dating scandal despite positive reactions and large no. of supporters). Also, even if btx has any scandals to cover, bighxt's recent merge with cj-enm (described as 'a powerhouse' aka very huge powerful company) means btx's any potential scandals can be taken care of for now. so that leaves ekso.

Who in ekso fits ji's image the most?

(hence will recieve 'positive' reactions and make them more aesthetically believable. without a doubt, its ji and his on going promoted sex appeal.) Reasons for ji and not other members: 1. theres no harm in giving him a beard (personal belief, ignore point 1. if you think homosexuality/kaisoo pairing isn't plausible) 2. to raise his popularity for his potential upcoming solo. 3. if someone who was involved in dating scandal before came up again, they probably predicts the pairing to be more positively recieved --> more supportors and a more hyped response from the public.

but none of that happened, the scandal was managed poorly. The paris evidence was made in a rush (dates didnt match) park pictures were too ambiguous (again dates and time didnt match), even when dispatch posted a pic of ji in a carpark supposedly came back from hawaii to give jni presents after landing - we learned from ji's own ig live that the day he wore the outfit in the photo, he had already returned to korea a few days ago, was around town shopping and went no where near the airport. Besides these failed attempts there was absolutely no other proof that jxk is real.

why was it poorly managed?

bc this is a rare collab between two big rival companies. Yg was the one begging at the start yet sm wasnt able to take full control of this scandal. Conflicts and disagreements upon makng many decisions were highly likely to occur between these two rivals.

The break up

a lot of fans were shocked when jxk broke up just after 25 days. (brand new record). what else is weird?

sm personally confirmed jxk broke up abruptly. Usually when couples break up, fan rumours start to float around first. But not this time, no rumours surfaced yet sm all of a sudden definitively stated that jxk broke up. Back then I already predicted it maybe because yg or bp got into trouble hence sm wanted to distance themselves as far as possible. I still stand by that idea.

Sm must get away from yg and b.sun case for the sake of theirs/ekso's reputation. sm def dont want to be dragged into the mess. Remember, sm as a huge company themselves def have their own dirt to hide, getting dragged means huge consequences if the investigators target them.

so why did sm agree in the first place? I assume its bc altho sm knew that yg had dirt to hide, they did not know it was something as serious, severe and big as b.sun case / tax evading case. Therefore, what are the coincidences that sm announced breakup shortly before dispatch sparked reinvestigation into b.sun by posting crucial evidences? (the first chats)

its highly possible that dispatch warned sm, (which makes them sound like the good guys but no. remember sm is dispatch's source of money and partnered with them many times. b.sun indeed aint directly related to sm, (as for now) dispatch has no reason to ruin sm) Or, sm could have found out through other sources that b.sun case will blow up soon. they quickly cut their collab with yg early, and announced break up probably without telling yg first. (since telling them possibly means giving dispatch away).

this also suggests that dispatch hates yg but anyway.

The benefits of ji

Comparing the two, jni seems to be the one who gained more from the scandal. She got most of media and the public's attention. there is an explanation for this - shes the 'rookier' one, and the trendier one out if the two since bp is still rising when ekso has reached their plateau. However, ji did gain his own lesser share of attention (indicated by the gained followers on his ig).

I have always said that when idols agree to be involved in a scandal, they are likely to get a 'reward.' but now thinking about it, agreeing to scandals is part of ji's contract, rewards are bonus but not obligations. Besides, the scandal itself supposedly helps ji gain popularity for solo and gains a beard, sm didnt NEED to give him more bonus. Often when idols get more modelling jobs / solo etc after scandals is bc sm uses the risen populairty from scandal as an opportunity to maximise profit by giving them more jobs, it might not be bc sm wants 'pamper' them.

Plan cut short

unfortunately for ji who is not getting his solo soon, the jxk plan flopped due to poor management, and was cut short due to b.sun case. The scandal did not fulfill what it was supposed to do and ended prematurely . Followed by the apparent troubles in sm negotiating contract terms with ekso, (delayed ekso schedules),chxn suddenly getting a solo, and the blowing up of b.sun case, ji might have missed his chance again. Or hes simply still preparing.

to summarize i want to clarify a few things.

- none of these are facts, but an overall picture forming one huge speculation.

- I dont try to defame bp or shame them. i also am not trying to state that girl artists def had sex with the hihgher ups. b.sun has shown us that men always have more power over women, and they rarely get protection.

- I want people to realize the dark side of kpop. The kpop industry is full of conspiracies, media manipulation and lies. What you see on tv is not who your idols are portrayed to be on camera. Don't impose your ideal vision on them and hurt others when reality suggests otherwise.

side note: this theory conveyed reinforcement to statements I've made before

- conspiracies are real and true. Look at all the dark and shady events involved in b.sun case

- media play, mass manipulation exist and are common practice.

- dispatch and sm collab and are partners on a case by case basis.

- idols lie on interviews all the time, their tv persona is different from the real them.

- companies offer protection for their idols

- it is indeed common practice to use one scandal to cover another

ANYTHING can happen in the world of the k ent industry. dont lightly dismiss any possibilities. We must analyse the sum of the situations - the full picture of any events before believing anything we are told.

#kaisoo #jongin #jennie #jxk #analysis #myposts #jxk1 #jenkai

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