#danny who carries weapons on him always even though he knows he doesn't need it but it makes him feel safer.

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I am absolutely loving your Danyal Al Ghul au. While I have a soft spot for the whole plotline of Danny becoming his canon personality almost right after breaking away from the LOA all because of Jazz, I'm just as much for your take in which he goes through the same character development as Damian.

Now I'm curious. You already tackled his relationship with Dani, will you eventually take a stab at when he, Sam, and Tucker meet Gregor? Given that it's one of my hated episodes as I couldn't stand Sam's infuriatingly hypocritical attitude to Danny's suspicions of him, I'd kill to see your spin on it.

Aw, thank you! Danyal Al Ghul aus are what got me into DPDC first, so I have a major soft spot for them. That being said, uh, its exactly that soft spot that causes me to have Many Opinions about the trope you just mentioned. Like the trope is all fine and dandy, i don't blindly hate it, my main issue with it is that most aus i've seen treat his backstory as an ex-assassin more like a pretty cosmetic accessory rather than something that actually should have had an impact on him. Especially if he remembers being in the league.

Like i cannot stress enough the fact that being in an ecofascist assassin cult (regardless of his standing in it) should've left him, in some way or another, screwed up morally and psychologically because that's just how development works. Nature vs. Nurture is like a game of tug-o-war that never ends, where they are constantly fighting against each other and one side usually has the upper hand or greater influence. Children model the behaviors of the adults around them (ex: bobo the clown doll experiment), and what impacts them in childhood can stick with them permanently.

Like how my psychology professor put it: a baby's brain is like wet cement; if you slap your hand on it, it leaves an imprint, and the cement dries that way. The same rings true for small children.

I could go on, but I frankly have so many thoughts on that alone that I would end up completely derailing from the second half of your ask, and I don't want to be more critical than I already have. Especially since you just mentioned you have a soft spot for the trope.

[Okay, hold onto your hats because this is long. Naturally lmao.]

Gregor! Man, I'll admit I last watched the show back in middle school on a dodgy illegal website (it had surprisingly good audio and visual graphics, and full episodes. But really annoying porn ads.) but I only made it to like season 1 before my hyperfixation faded and I lost interest. So I never actually saw the Gregor episode.

But... it is relatively easy to find free websites that stream Danny Phantom :), so finding the episode took me like. Thirty seconds. Plus the Tv.Tropes recap page because my damn earbuds just died and im out in public as of rn.

I'm not sure if I'll write something for the gregor episode like I did with Dani, since Dani's a bit of a special case in that she's a clone and tends to be a reoccurring presence in DPDC, and I thought the new dynamic with Danyal would be interesting.

Plus, I'm not a big amethyst ocean shipper for the pure reason of I'm just not all that interested in it; its kinda bland to me. I'll admit I've entertained the thought in this au due to the whole balcony scene i wrote, but I would've entertained the thought anyways if it was Tucker in that position instead. Big multishipper, me.

But, if I had to make it official? Danyal is not interested romantically in Sam when the Gregor episode happens, regardless of his relationship with Valerie. Who, speaking of I'm trying to think about how that would go, and I'm torn between including him almost-dating Valerie or not.

Because on one hand it helps point out Sam's hypocrisy (and i love her but i am always happy to point out her flaws and address them in au) in this episode in terms of Danny spying on them, but on the other hand I'll want to include a lot of set up in order to make Gray Ghost work in this au and wow will that take a while.

Especially with the Flirting with Disaster episode because it happens due to Technus' meddling, and Danny is, well, the son of the Batman? A trained assassin? An ex-assassin nonetheless, but still an assassin? A prodigy child in this au? He might not have needed to use most of his skills in the last few years, but like... there's just a bunch of 'what if' and 'well technically...' and 'would he? he could, but would he?' things that is getting in the way of my thought process and making my head spin.

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Mmm. Okay. Flirting with Disaster occurs relatively the same as canon with a few exceptions; like Danyal noticing the strange coincidences, and he might take the idea into proper consideration because Sam has a point it is strange, especially out of nowhere.

However,,, he really enjoys Valerie's company, and he does really like her. He's been adjusting to civilian life for the last four years and while he's made a lot of progress, he's still. an ex-assassin child living like a wolf amongst sheep. This is normal, typical teenager stuff, and usually his friends like to encourage him doing normal teenager stuff.

So he's stubbornly holding out on the thought that this is normal, that ghost stuff isn't interfering here. He's a little hurt that his friends are discouraging this, he's not bothered by the fact that Valerie is a ghost hunter and he a ghost -- his mother is an assassin, and his father is Batman, and they still had a relationship. (Granted, he's not gonna tell them that)

If anything, being diametrically opposed to each other but still being in love is part of the family! Granted, usually both parties are aware of said opposition to each other, but he'll make a special exception this time around.

(And man now that i'm thinking about gray ghost, im now thinking about various like. scenes i could write between the two of them. maybe in a reblog.)

Anyways uhhh things relatively go the same as canon. Yeah. I think Sam still has a crush on Danny and still spies out of jealousy with Tucker.

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Now, the Gregor episode! With that out of the way; the TVTropes recap for this episode isn't the best because it doesn't go into detail about the entire episode like it does with Flirting With Disaster and Shades of Gray.

(which i looked at earlier because I made a section of this post talking briefly about what changes I'd make to the Shades of Gray episode to help set up Gray Ghost, but ended up deleting because it was kinda irrelevant for the matter at hand.)

So I'm taking in bits of the episode clips at a time, I'll try not to get too nitpicky about how each scene goes because then it's gonna take me a longer time to write this.

But! First thing's first; since Danny is not romantically interested in Sam, he is also not jealous of Gregor. He is however, a bit eyebrow-raisey at him in their first introduction, but that's because Gregor is coming off as obnoxious.

Danny thinks he's kinda annoying, and it doesn't take a genius to see that Gregor is trying to impress Sam. But since they've only known him for five minutes he takes the good faith assumption and assumes that Gregor is genuinely trying to show interest in Sam's interests too because he likes her, so he keeps mum. The fake hungarian accent is weird, but it's overall harmless, so he doesn't point it out.

He does do the spying thing when he starts suspecting that Gregor might be working for the GIW. The episode only has this happen twice, but for the au this happens a handful of more times over the course of the week, with Danyal's suspicion steadily rising more and more each time.

Hah, when he brings up wanting to spy on Sam and Gregor because of this reason, Tucker still does his "woah! you wanna spy on Sam?" thing.

Danny immediately turns to him, completely unimpressed, and crosses his arms. "Tucker," he says, deadpan, "you and Sam spied on me and Valerie."

He uses a combination of his ghost powers and his regular stealth ability to spy on them. He's hiding in a tree when they're skipping rocks, close enough that he can use his powers to hear them talk but far enough away that he has a good view of their surroundings.

He's invisible in the cinema, but doesn't accidentally get in front of the projector. He checks the inside of the room for the GIW, and then waits outside the actual room itself, keeping an eye on the area and occasionally flying in to watch the movie out of boredom. It reminds him of being back on a recon mission with the League, but it doesn't end with him orchestrating someone's death.

Then when they're at the mall he stays in human form, blending in with the crowd. He runs into the GIW there, but realizes that they're not there because of Gregor; they're just shopping. They didn't show up at either of the last two locations, and he follows them to make sure they're not also trying to blend in. But they're literally just there for shopping.

Danny is rather pleased with this turnout; so far Gregor isn't a spy, he's just annoying. The next day at lunch he asks Sam how her date with Gregor went, and that's how she figures out he spied on them, because well, she didn't tell him that.

"Have you been spying on me?"

Danny messes with his food a little bit, and Tucker is sinking into his seat with embarrassment. He frowns, "Only last night. Those incompetent government dodos--"

His lip curls up; he gets all 'Shakespeare-y' (as Sam and Tucker put it) when he's insulting someone, "--kept appearing whenever Gregor did. I followed you and him last night to make sure he wasn't a spy."

A roundabout way of saying, "I was worried".

Sam is, as canon, furious. Danny understands why, he knows generally speaking that people don't like being spied on. But he's confused on just how angry she is, and is a little irritated by it.

"Why would you do that!" She exclaims, "That's way out of line, Danny."

"How? You spied on me when I was going on dates with Valerie." He narrows his eyes, and points his fork at her, "I'm not blind, I noticed."

"That's different, we told you why we were suspicious. And we don't have ghost powers like you do."

"I don't need ghost powers to sneak around, Sam, you've seen this firsthand. And I just told you why I followed you, I thought he was working with the guys in white--"

"So you think someone can only be interested in me if they're after you?" (this is a paraphrased quote, folks ;D)

"No! If that was the case I would have voiced my concern the moment I thought it. I don't get why you're so angry, you spied too."

Iiits.... a mess. Sam storms off with Gregor, Tucker tags along because okay, yeah, maybe Gregor isn't with the GIW, or maybe last night was a fluke. Either way he ends up tagging along. Danny overhears that conversation between the GIW and Mr. Lancer, and maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong; but something is up.

I've gotten to that scene in the locker room where Gregor tells Danny that he knows he doesn't like him, and I've paused at Danny's reply to say this: Danyal doesn't even bother trying to deny it.

"I know you do not like me."

"You're right; I don't."

"Ah, let me finish. I know you do not like me because you want to protect your friend, Sam, and I respect that."

"...That's correct."

"Good! Because I am going to ask her out."

"I had a feeling you'd say that," he stands up, claps his hand tight on Gregor's shoulder, and leans close to him with a threatening smile, "so you understand me when i say; if you break my best friend's heart, you're as good as dead, right?"

"Ah,, yes. I am so glad we got that cleared out of the way, and now I hope after we can.. how you Americans put it, hang out?"

In the episode he hugs Danny and gives him a la bise (which is that french greeting where you kiss someone on the cheek two or more times) after they end their conversation. But here, when he goes to do that to Danyal, Danny leans away, points an accusatory finger at him, and says; "Absolutely not; we are not close."

The next scene after that is like, end of day. Sam, Tucker, and Gregor walking away. Sam looks over her shoulder to glare at Danny, then gets forlorn. Tucker looks back and just looks forlorn.

(When did I start narrating each scene?? Eh, I'm writing this in brief spurts of time throughout the day. Don't fix what's not broke)

After that there's this whole scene with the two GIW agents that have been chasing Phantom all episode. They're there because they have Tucker's PDA that Skulker took, and it's got the information of their purple backed gorilla assignment on it. They've been going around seeing who Tucker associates with in hopes of catching Phantom.

Uhh ahaha and that is where this gets a little interesting imo, and also allows me to mention that im retconning Danyal's (already) redesigned ghost form. Which I've wanted to retcon even before this moment bc it was just too busy. I'll get to that in a moment.

The GIW suspect Gregor for being the Phantom because of his white hair and green eyes, which is all fine and dandy until you remember: Danyal (and by extension Phantom) has that very noticeable, rather identifiable facial scar that goes across the middle of his fucking face. The GIW could easily suspect that Phantom hides his scar with makeup if he's in disguise, but if they meet a kid with a seemingly identical facial scar and similar disposition? Hoo boy.

Solution? I've got two: Gregor is canonically a kid from Michigan who faked everything to impress Sam. Considering he knows she's gothic and knows that she's ultra-recyclo vegetarian? He probably watched her from afar or got information on her somehow. His hair is dyed, his eyes might just naturally be green, but if he notices that she's got a crush on either Danyal or Phantom? A little sfx makeup could help him recreate a similar looking scar.

My second solution that's gonna happen anyways bc its that suit redesign; Danyal does hide his face as Phantom. Ghosts are emotional creatures and its a popular headcanon that their interests, ambitions, etc, influence the way they look as a ghost, not just their death. A big reoccurring theme of my au is that Danyal did not leave the League unscathed, and that being an assassin is an important part of his identity.

So i'm discarding the hazmat suit look entirely and leaning into the 'assassin' thing. But the general (stylized) feel is like, white ribbon/cloth vambraces that he has used as a garrote at some point, a hood, a gaiter scarf-type thing. I'm keeping the cape. I did a doodle a few days back that's not the official redesign, but a redesign for Phantom. I may reblog this post with that attached because it's got the general feel down. There's very little white involved, but the inside of his cape flares out and looks like the night sky.

Now, the hood and gaiter scarf gets rid of most of the problem, but Danny's hood doesn't stay on all the time, so the GIW have likely seen the upper half of the scar. :] Gregor's own drawn-on scar doesn't have to be 1:1, but it looks close enough, right? A small scar cutting through the edge of his brow and ends right below the corner of his eye. A 'cool, badass' one opposed to Danny's 'garish' scar.

But! Back to the episode scene. Canon Danny gets written off as being 'too prepubescent' to be Phantom, and honestly it'd be hilarious if Danyal was written off for the same reason (he's calling them idiots in his head if they do). But instead -- leaning into the GIW's incompetence here -- he gets written off as being too mature or too talkative. Or something equally as absurd.

Sam breaks up with Gregor for canon reasons, but when Gregor does his "i really like you, but, come on-!" and gestures to tucker, he adds on "and that scary friend of yours too, seriously!"

Things go relatively the same as canon after that. Danny does end up apologizing for spying, however. Sam does it first. Sorrows, prayers, all that.

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Things usually end up changed or different when I actually write it down, so I'd likely add more or adjust different scenes according to the flow of the oneshot. This is just like, a general vibe of how things would go, and where some of the more obvious changes would be if I did write this oneshot.

Hope you enjoyed! Thanks for the ask :]

[massivecheesecakewolf]

Well Sam will be more insulted when she learns that the 'Yaldabaoth' is not even the real Yaldabaoth( Even though the false one is skilled at manipulation as the real one) and wanting to use the temple of lament (new temple name) power to become the real Yaldabaoth and control the world like a puppet on a mindless string, so she will be triple insulted (one by the existence of Yaldabaoth, two that Yaldabaoth is a fake pretending to be a god, and three the fake are planning to be a real god to control the world)after (learning from Tucker) finding out about this and which to help end those false 'gods' after she and Danny went to Maple Grove in couple of months and not ASAP because reason that needed Sam and Danny that I have no clue on, so right now it is about tucker which has to teach Harry how to, thankfully, upgrade his bat into the Fenton anti creep bat to harm the infused monster when they appear ( when you are around your friend parent that had to teach you how to build a tech that can harm ghost, you will never forget).

Harry Miller is doing his monster hunting for 7 months and it is hard because his usual kit ( a baseball bat, his grimoire, an enchanted airsoft pistol with 2 spare magazines full of pellets soaked in holy water (they found a page about enchantment for the grimoire), a first aid kit, and couple of plastic water bottles filled with homemade holy water) is not always available as the only thing he always carries is the grimoire and has to improvise (like breaking a wooden broom for a improvise spear against a vampire or using a barbell (without added weight because Harry is not a strong guy and even then he has to use berserk form to use it effectively) as a weapon against a werewolf (despite what you think, not even a werewolf can survive a head crush by a heavy barbell even if it not silver).)

Harry had a little support besides his Best bro, James Brown (who despite being a (chubby) heavy anime fan who is kinda rich has a modified flying drone which can use speakers to distract monsters and can shoot modified airsoft pellets at them), and one of them is Mary Bigelow, a 75 year old Herb mixologist who knows a little of the occult and mistakenly believes that Harry is her grandson, forgetting that her family moved away. The only other support is Naoki Angevin, a 40 year old Japanese Sensei of a dojo that Harry joined because of a rumor of a strange key, Naoki learned of the supernatural and decided to keep training Harry martial arts.

The false 'gods' (let's just call them fakers until someone made a cooler name that relates to false god) has thousands of monsters in their call but their pride just gets them to use one or two at a time, they can use power magic that even the most powerful spell in the grimoire (fire rain) feel like a cantrip.And before anyone ask if those faker just go to Maple Grove to find the keys, they can't as their agelessness youth are being connected to the pocket dimension and if they went out longer then a day they died of old age turn into dust ( their youth returns when the faker went back to their dimension.)

The infused (monster infused with the ectoplasm) have the strength of a ghost ( their strike can burn with ectoplasm energy, turn Intangible for a while, and are resistant to the grimoire magic and physical strike like an infused werewolf can survive a crush in the head, which it very hurt, that a regular one doesn't.) but gain weakness that the regular monster doesn't have ( a Fentons weapon can disable ecto abilities and greatly harm the infused, they need ectoplasm regularly or they become weak, and if a Fentons thermo ever pointed at the infused the ectoplasm in their body are pulled to the thermo making the infused near death. Among regular ghost weaknesses) I have no idea which Faker found out about ectoplasm and the idea of infusing monsters with it.

Also the 'current' moment of Tucker found out about Harry hunting monsters and teaching him the Fenton tech, Harry has one temple key and keeping it safe in a lockbox under his bed.

Hello there, it that lurking talking procrastinating (by giving other people prompts that for reasons original idea not working) cheese wolf.

I have a very long ( like 10 years)post (AGIT) canon Danny Phantom au about Tucker, now here me out

After 10 years after AGIT where everything went kinda okay after and Tucker moved out to Maple Grove ( I used a random us city generator) in Minnesota after graduation from a university while Danny stayed to do stuff ( you can pick a reason Danny stay like being the ghost king, help being a bridge between ghost zone and the living world, or something else your choice) and Sam is supporting him, so with a agreement for talking weekly online Tucker is off. While Tucker is at Maple Grove he got a job as a technology teacher at Whitewater school (used another random generator for the name) and after a few months he got a hang of it and while Tucker is at the school park after the sun went down, he noticed that one of his student with a baseball bat and book fighting a.... He doesn't know what it is, but he is sure that is a monster that is somehow infused with ectoplasm and the boy is tired and sluggish, so tucker pull out the emergency Fentons laser gun and fire it at the monster.

Harry Miller (random name generator) is tired of his life so far in that at the first day at school, he is tricked by bullies to go to the school basement to get something ridiculous but found a grimoire in a secret room with most of the pages ripped off the book, found out the supernatural exists after fighting a heavily weakened vampire in said secret room with a baseball bat, being alone with a best bro named James Brown who loved anime and have knowledge about the supernatural and it weaknesses ( even if is from watching anime), found out that Maple Grove is top of a ancient temple that if activated with 4 keys will give the beater ultimate Power and that the 3 being that want the power that pridefully called themselves gods, Dhoemis (god name generator), Aelia (Same generator), and Yaldabaoth (Harry mocknly call it yal) (they are not gods, they are (while powerful and have loyal servants) unaging manipulator that which to use the temple power to control the world but they are infighting as the temple can only give one person ultimate Power, and Harry don't want that as if a 'god' win humanity will lose their will and mind as they become, in a word, puppet for the 'god'),after getting bunch of the grimoire page and halting the 'god' plan a lot, he fought a monster that somehow enhanced (and glow green) that it took a risky gambit to kill the monster and while he is fighting the other one later while tired a laser hit it and Harry looked to the direction that the laser comes from and saw his technology teacher carry a laser gun. After the monster is slain, Tucker wants an answer about this and after a conversation an agreement about Tucker helping Harry with the monster problems and after getting a question about what to do with the enhanced monster, Tucker knows a person that can help with that (Danny and Sam) but it will take couple of month before they will arrive.

Tldr Tucker becomes a kinda mentor/ weapon teacher for Harry after learning about the 'gods' and their plan.

(the 'gods' didn't know about the ghost zone at all and just recently barely understand that infusing their servant give them ghost like power to get rid of that pest (Harry Miller) unknowingly give the infused ghost like weakness like Fenton tech and other stuff)

Also it is funny if there is like an anime about the event of Danny Phantom (but slightly changed) that is James favorite.

The spell system in this is the holder of a grimoire has a mana pool that can refill by resting ( slowly refilling) or hitting things in combat ( refill fast at a strike), the way you can perform a spell is to raise the grimoire up and yell the spell name in Latin (the more correct pronunciation the more powerful the spell is) if you try to use a spell while the mana pool is empty either the spell doesn't work or you push to get the spell work but you harm yourself that has to be rested naturally.

Example of the spell of the grimoire

Cure wounds

Berserk form ( enlarge the holder a bit and makes them stronger at melee combat at a limited time of 30 seconds)

Fire rain

And you can think of others

(also Harry is not from any hunter clan, he is just a regular person who is just a bit unlucky to find out monsters exist and had to save Maple Grove from monsters and their 'gods')

This is actually a pretty interesting premise. I get the feeling that Sam will have the most knowledge of this stuff as not only is she a fan of anime, but also goth & seemed to be able to find that sort of info fairly quickly in the show. So, it's likely that she's interested in this sort of thing anyway.

Though, I get the impression that she'd be personally insulted by Yaldabaoth just by virtue of being Jewish. Which, would honestly just add fuel to her desire to end that jerk.