#cw: fascist imagery

[fruitycutie]

Mini essay about Star wars, jews, and nazis because it's fucking all i've been studying i'm sorry

cw / nazi ideology dissected a bit

I'm still just watching and greatly enjoying Clone Wars, so I'm not fully up to speed, but: While studying Judaism, I thought that a lot of the core tenets have probably inspired those of the Jedi.

And that the Nazi ideology isn't just an ideology in a vacuum, its also just as esoteric of a belief as Judaism, just kind of flipped on its head- Mein Kampf is kind of like a complete reverse of the Torah, taking the same tellings but completely inverting their morals and twisting them to overfit hatred.

it's a bit of a stretch to exactly 1:1 it, but it's really clear that it's an inspiration at the very least for what's on screen - it's a twisting in a similar way that the dark side is, and I think it's not a coincidence that when the dark side ends up with The Empire to it's name (idk how that happens but it'll be interesting to see) it all looks so totalitarian, so fascist in nature: because Nazism isn't a self sustaining ideology, its a diametrical opposite to Judaism, in the same way that the dark side is an opposite to the light, it maps quite well in my head I really like the metaphore and i think it fits both visually and idea-wise.

A lot of the resistance in the first non-prequel movies was worn-in and "homely" in the same way that old Jewish robes and homes would look, it evokes a similar imagery to the "poor peasants" in a sense, they were so welcoming of all aliens even if they were mostly humans - treating what could be seen as "alien" as equally human and with dignity. By contrast The Empire is this sleek, uniform, personality-oblitarating machine that turns people into tools - the exact aesthetic of the Nazis, with an animal-to-human dichotomy to boot.

Some people who did their homework would find it surprising that alongside the Jews with their Kasherut that mandated specific ways of treating animals in righteous ways before they are eaten that minimize their pain, the Nazis too had a fairly involved idea of how to treat animals. But this isn't to be confused: Unlike the Jews, who treat animals with a certain respect, the Nazis weren't treating animals with humane respect: they were treating humans like animals to begin with, so they found little need to differentiate. It can come across as a bit of a weird thing to just claim because it is a real world thing, but I think if we delve into the world of philosophical purely apolitical ideas - like "the idea of judaism has several strict but well-meaning tenets about living a good life, the idea of nazism is about taking those and maximizing their inversion as much as possible out of hatred" and not just, historical events like "nazi germany and the holocaust happened", it makes a lot more sense, I hope.

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[dionysiandevotee]

I don't have the dossiers. I have some collections of problematic statements from Sannion, because he comes up often in Dionysian discourse. If it's Sannion, here's him in a Nazi Eagle Tshirt, with a Nazi Sun necklace, throwing an OK hand gesture, which in light of the other imagery, is rather easily identifiable as a Nazi salute.

CW, he also uses Transphobic slurs. But this is a quote from his about abortion (this was made like 3 months ago):

I don’t mean to keep harping on abortion, really. It’s an abstract for me, since I got myself snipped long ago, partly so that my line would end with me (I pretend my siblings and their offspring do not exist) and also so that my partners wouldn’t have to flood their bodies with unnecessary hormones and chemicals, keeping their natural cycles in an artificial stasis which dramatically increases the probability of certain cancers and other ailments. (A little snip-snip is the least I could do if they’re willing to touch my – incredibly massive – pee-pee.) It’s just that it’s a good ethical prompt, and less controversial than where trannies piss or whether Black lives matter (things I’d thought we settled back in the 90s, but whatever.

He has else where admitted to being a fascist:

I couldn’t agree more and I’m a proud Fascist. Indeed it’s because I’m a Fascist that I agree. Religious, ethnic and sexual minorities are not our enemies. It’s the banks and corporations that we need to rise up and smash if we’re to have any hope for a strong nation. When we fight amongst ourselves we’re playing right into their hands. Why reject any group of people who could be potentially useful to the cause? Rome was made great through assimilation not segregation.

I don't mind calling Sannion a fascist, because it's terminology he himself uses to describe himself. But I can prove it when it's up for debate.

I tried to stay out of the tumblr drama for so long, but this is ridiculous. You offer crybullies a platform, don't be surprised when they take it. @hellenic-reconstructionism's content has always been about attacking other people, why should we be surprised if that is all they can contribute to this community? The 'callout culture' here allows some people to bully others with a sense of moral vindication. Please stop using the blogs of bullies to make your points. You can prove Sannion is a fascist with a single screenshot - you don't need to default to someone who spends their days building dossiers of the people they want to take down.

[mattskeebah]

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I know how much y’all hate “your fave is problematic” posts...but it’s necessary.

Summary: Matt Skiba, singer of the band Alkaline Trio and member of Blink-182, has nazi tattoos, is a fan of nazi bands, made tasteless nazi related paintings, is best friends with Boyd Rice, and in fact, owns nazi insignia. Matt claims to be a feminist but likes countless scantily clad pics of young models and sex workers and follows actual porn actresses on IG. Also, he never distanced himself from Asia Argento and still sells t-shirts with her face on them in his webstore. Matt supports the police and the military and he has a weird gun fetish. He attacked fans who criticized his behavior and his problematic associations.

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WHY I STOPPED BEING A FAN OF MATT SKIBA

He supports the police as an instutition, specifically Chicago PD. He made a post on Instagram in favor of CPD which ofc received backlash from fans but he ignored the negative comments and brushed it off as “there are bad people in every profession” and then he deleted the post. Thanks to a Tumblr user who screencapped it: [x] please notice the tiny blue (lives matters) heart. Also, here are some “cute” pics of him wearing police-related stuff [x] [x] and check out this post of him “repping” new CPD merch on his car [x] (he disabled the comments).

He supports the military, which might be because his parents served in the Vietnam war, but that doesn’t make it less shitty. Examples for his military-support can be found all over his Instagram. [x] [x] [x] [x] [x] and so on... and in this post he’s delighted that a soldier in Afghanistan is wearing an Alkaline Trio patch. [x]

He’s close friends with Asia Argento / or had possible romantic relationship with her and he still sells t-shirts with her face on them in his merch shop. For those of you who don’t know her, she was one of the leaders of the #metoo movement but then it was revealed that she herself had sex with an intoxicated 17-year-old (!) and her bf Anthony Bourdain gave the boy money so he would keep his mouth shut about the incident, ((later Bourdain committed suicide))

Story of a fan who gave Matt a letter criticizing him for being friends with Argento, and the same night he posted a picture of her on IG (I think it was this post)… which seems like a subtle F*CK YOU at the person who gave him the letter. (he can’t take criticism, can he?)

His IG activity is .. something else. Matt’s major interests are motorbikes, cars, and young, attractive, half-naked models and strippers. One of his recent likes (nudity and bruises cw) [x] [x] [x] [x]….that one is an actual porn actress he follows and thirsts over: (more nudity cw) [x] he commented ‘cool butt momma. miss you xoxo’ [x] [x] (liked)…and my “personal fave” a picture with a sex worker [x] he deleted the picture ofc

HE LOVES GUNS (+said that he would use them) he has quite a big gun collection: SIG SAUERs, a Morning Star, many knifes, a shotgun, a Desert Eagle gun, a samurai sword, a faux snakeskin baton, and more stuff I can’t remember, he posted his collection on November 5th 2018 on IG, but unfortunately I didn’t take a screenshot!! but he posted them individually on IG. [x] [x] [x] [x] etc. and a recently deleted pic at the shooting range [x] ……also this pic exists.. edgelord (tw gun to the head).

In the comments of the same post (I swear on my life it’s real, you have to trust me) a user commented that he’s a Trump supporter but he would still defend Matt, even if he’s “politically left”. Matt’s answer: “I would defend you too, my man!”. o k a y. then Matt said he identifies as “quite a bit left” o K AY. MATT. Just so btw. the user also had a name including “88″ ( is a code phrase commonly used in fascist circles for “Heil Hitler”) or he just meant the year 88. but I saw some racist “memes” on his IG too.

Matt has a weird obsession with WW2. He literally watched a holocaust docu on HIS FUCKING BDAY (or at least he posted about it) and he said he collects WW2 books. Theoretically, nothing wrong with being interested in history, but in the context of everything… bad vibes……….

He really loves Nordic/Scandinavian-related stuff, like jewelry of the Hammer of Thor etc and he even uses MS runes for his merch. Runes are popular among occultists but they also have a really problematic history concerning WW2 and the nazis. Considering one of his most favorite bands Death in June mentions runes in their lyrics and they are a REALLY REALLY questionable band flirting with nazi imagery and being openly affiliated with fascist and far-right satanists, I have every right to question Matt’s intentions.

He literally has a crutch cross tattoo on his chest (which was used as the symbol of Austro-Fascism, and is also the logo of the neo folk - nazi band Blood Axis) PHOTO 1, PHOTO 2 and an EDELWEISS tattoo [x], which is the national flower of Austria and is considered a magical flower in occult circles. Nothing wrong with having a flower tattoo but it was used a lot in the context of nationalsocialism and “traditional values”. To add, it was also used as a symbol of the 1st Mountain division “Gebirgsjäger” in WW2 (Hitler’s elite formation of the Wehrmacht who were involved in large scale war crimes). 

Matt OWNS NAZI INSIGNIA. He is wearing a WW2 Edelweiss patch in this pic [x] and here [x] combined with a crutch cross patch (Alk3 used an iron cross backdrop at their concerts 2014ish and a crutch cross symbol on their guitar picks btw.)

He owns several Death In June patches, their merch [x] [x] [x] [x] etc. and other patches and buttons featuring nazi-related symbols. [DIJ WIKI]. He is also friends with their singer. Matt’s a huge DIJ fan, attended their concerts [x] and Douglas P. reads the intro of the Alkaline Trio song “I Found Away”. DIJ uses fascist symbols and “aesthetics” for the band, including an SS Totenkopf logo.

Matt painted the same logo and exhibited it at an art show [x]

HE LITERALLY DID PAINTINGS REFERENCING DOLLFUSS AND MUSSOLINI and another piece of “art” called “surf nazis” [x] what the actual f   u    c  k .. and here he is with his painting of Mickey Mouse as Hitler [x]

HE IS BEST FRIENDS with Boyd Rice, (here’s a picture of them holding Wolfsangels, a nazi symbol) they are REALLY CLOSE. According to Rice’s IG they meet every week and hang out and Rice considers Matt “family”… the entire Boyd Rice shit can be read in this post (important please read). Matt even attacked fans that were calling him out and called them stupid.

The first liked video on his Youtube channel is a video about neo-nazi biker gangs in Germany....... [x]

He is friends with Kat von D, she did a few of his tattoos and she appeared in the Alk3 video “Help Me”.

He collabed with Jeffree Star on a violent song [x]

He was at an art show of a friend who used nazi symbols (!)

posts like these [x] [x]

In this interview [x] he’s pretty much romanticizing that people got stabbed back then at concerts and that there was a big skinhead scene (he wasn’t “stoked” about the violence happening BUT “the energy surrounding” was “very ATTRACTIVE” to him. Make of that what you will.)

When he was a sophomore in HS (and on acid) he beat up a classmate who threw a U.S. flag on the floor. [x]

Matt made a racist remark a few years ago about Chinese people [x] and according to him //or he’s joking// he has a tattoo on his dick that says “welcome to Jamaica” which can be interpreted as racist.

Many of the movies he praises blatantly depict violence against women, like Blue Velvet, Funny Games, A Clockwork Orange (it has almost 3 rape scenes in the first 15 minutes), lyrics like “Radio” can be seen as misogynist, he literally wishes that his ex-GF (/or someone’s ex-gf) should take a bath with a radio and get electrocuted.

A person on IG commented that his ex-girlfriend accused him of domestic violence, I have no proof for that but he deleted the comments ofc and then a few days later he donated money to a women’s shelter in LA… which seems like he’s trying to avoid a shitstorm…

He compared L.A. women to zoo animals in this interview [x].

He cheated on his ex-gf(s) which I think should go on this list too.

Matt used to be a member of the Church of Satan, just leaving this here. you can argue if it’s good or bad but there seems to be a connection between satanists and neo-nazis .. sadly.

He listed the song* “Los Angeles” by X among his faves in this interview [x] (*edit: Someone has reached out to me and explained that the song was not racist, antisemitic or anything but from the *perspective* of a racist. However, we don't know Matt's reason for liking the song and considering his WW2 fetish, it's sketchy that he would consider the song as one of his favorites. Maybe he likes it because the song openly says things out loud under the veil of "sarcasm" that would be criticized under different circumstances. See also: [Oscar Wild was right.] Matt still listened to the band in 2014 and was at a concert of them [x], even months after their singer spew right-wing conspiracy theories concerning (school) shootings.

THIS FUCKING PICTURE OF HIM WITH A CHARLES MANSON DOLL AND A SW*STIKA. He still had the doll in other pictures [x] [x].

This picture I found on a fansite. It’s supposed to be Matt as a child.. where does that even come from and why is he wearing a military hat with something that vaguely looks like an eagle (?)

I can’t be the only one who noticed that but Matt had a vaguely ~nazi haircut thoughout the years and even some sort of nazi / white power aesthetic~ going on, even fans recognized it as such [x] [x] [x] and in the context of him hanging out with Boyd Rice like this in this picture [x] it’s safe to say he was EXACTLY GOING FOR THAT LOOK.

When he was in Germany during the Blink-182 tour 2017 he proudly posed at a famous Third Reich location in the Alps. Yk. nothing wrong with visiting historical locations but in the context of everything mentioned in this post. IT LOOKS REALLY BAD.

…probably more.. this man is a walking disaster

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In this post I listed a lot, there are probably some things you would consider “minor” because they happened years ago but I thought I’d mention them anyway. Also, I’m not saying he has those beliefs but he definitely doesn’t distance himself from nazi(-sympathizing) scum like Boyd Rice and keeps being BFFs with him. And what’s up with the problematic tattoos and WWII insignia? I can’t be the only one who thinks this is not okay!!!

Thanks for reading.

[greyjedireylo]

antis @ing Rian to call him a fascist and lecture him on imagery/symbolism in star wars is CW fandom levels of cringey