#cults will survive longer than your cul de sac whether they're good or bad folks

[youaresogoingtohell]

Hi, I saw you talking about cults in a thread. Most people are referring to cults of personality when they use that phrase. They think of the Manson family and the Jonestown massacre, of Heaven’s Gate and of the Solar Temple.

What cults are you thinking of?

Wouldn't it be great if everyone was as precise as you? And aware of how easily they were conditioned to hate their neighbors? See them as Manson? Jim Jones?

and forgive all the same crimes of their pastor, cops, teachers, doctors, governors, fucking registrars…

I'm sure that the Krishnas have gone off USA's radar, but they used to bear the brunt of this particular form of white supremacist hatred, for quite a long time. Understanding that it was actually a big and "real" religion doesn't seem to part of it. I wonder what it is? I mean really I wonder, not like "I'm posing a question I know the answer to in order to look smart", I really wonder.

Is it the lack of modeling norms? Probably part of it! Not obeying the proper patriarch? Maybe so; I know that in the 80s a lot of groups were kicking around the Square that I didn't like, I didn't care for their looks or their ideas, but I also (here's the part I think is key) noticed they didn't hurt anyone. Then, later, I started quizzing this one guy a CoG "elder" (probly about 25) about the Bible and was impressed with the depth of his reads. I got a very clear understanding of what was going on with their group: they were running from the last town they were in, and were squatting. At the time, shit, that was half my social group! BUT, these CoGs were not bathing, and they all had scabies, and they were just ugh, real not well. But that was none of my business, right? Several of their members were recent survivors of abuse, hiding out from the blood relations that assaulted them. So, am I turning them back over to Papa for correction? Dunno about you, but I'm not.

So like, to me, CoG (Children of God) is one of the worst religious groups ever here, bad in a lot of the ways y'all like to mewl on about as if they're rare or confined to this one "special" kind of group, the CULT, such a scary word, and not a Basic Feature of the Whole Entire USA Shitpit. I mean, that's what I see when people race to denigrate folks who are in cults. "WHITE FATHER DOESN'T LIKE THAT. WHITE FATHER CLAIMS THAT POWER FOR HIS OWN". And the masses going "oooooh charismatic leeeeeeader! worldly possessssssions! not allowing them contact with faaaaaamily!!!" on cue - where to start with that kind of thing? People won't elect to stop being shitty about it as far as I can tell. Top three tumblrs agree: nonchristian ways of life that violate USA norms Must All Be Bad. Everyone who is CULT is also JIM JONES, in the minds of ostensibly sensible and non-evil-bigoted-trash tumblr bloggers, just like in the minds of confirmed idiotic fully evil bigots across the land.

how do y'all live with the belief that this natural human method of survival and love is evil, using only a description of your church, schools, military, courts, cops and judges?

if you believe what they tell you about cults, without doing any further study, on the basis of anecdote and propaganda only, fail to find out of your assumptions were based in reality & fail to scrutinize the institutions which benefit from this failure, I don't care if you think I am a bad person. You don't have the ability to discern good from bad people. That's why I say you're dangerous. If you're one of these, the norm, you are a danger to the few good people running around, the few trying to learn to be good.

If you can't understand it, I can't help you. I'm not one of the people I'm defending, here. I live alone.

The people this crew is hating and endangering are gardeners and animal husbanders and writers and shit. I'm just a city dweller with a lot of friends. Better friends than y'all will ever be, carrying around this uneducated animus for your owners' targets.

Sorry mecha, that wasn't really directed at you (unless it was, in which case, do better, in a hurry).

[anarchistettin]

#cults will survive longer than your cul de sac whether they're good or bad folks#they will outlive you

is this an aderrall thing?

-could I uh, have some?

Hi, I saw you talking about cults in a thread. Most people are referring to cults of personality when they use that phrase. They think of the Manson family and the Jonestown massacre, of Heaven’s Gate and of the Solar Temple.

What cults are you thinking of?

Wouldn't it be great if everyone was as precise as you? And aware of how easily they were conditioned to hate their neighbors? See them as Manson? Jim Jones?

and forgive all the same crimes of their pastor, cops, teachers, doctors, governors, fucking registrars…

I'm sure that the Krishnas have gone off USA's radar, but they used to bear the brunt of this particular form of white supremacist hatred, for quite a long time. Understanding that it was actually a big and "real" religion doesn't seem to part of it. I wonder what it is? I mean really I wonder, not like "I'm posing a question I know the answer to in order to look smart", I really wonder.

Is it the lack of modeling norms? Probably part of it! Not obeying the proper patriarch? Maybe so; I know that in the 80s a lot of groups were kicking around the Square that I didn't like, I didn't care for their looks or their ideas, but I also (here's the part I think is key) noticed they didn't hurt anyone. Then, later, I started quizzing this one guy a CoG "elder" (probly about 25) about the Bible and was impressed with the depth of his reads. I got a very clear understanding of what was going on with their group: they were running from the last town they were in, and were squatting. At the time, shit, that was half my social group! BUT, these CoGs were not bathing, and they all had scabies, and they were just ugh, real not well. But that was none of my business, right? Several of their members were recent survivors of abuse, hiding out from the blood relations that assaulted them. So, am I turning them back over to Papa for correction? Dunno about you, but I'm not.

So like, to me, CoG (Children of God) is one of the worst religious groups ever here, bad in a lot of the ways y'all like to mewl on about as if they're rare or confined to this one "special" kind of group, the CULT, such a scary word, and not a Basic Feature of the Whole Entire USA Shitpit. I mean, that's what I see when people race to denigrate folks who are in cults. "WHITE FATHER DOESN'T LIKE THAT. WHITE FATHER CLAIMS THAT POWER FOR HIS OWN". And the masses going "oooooh charismatic leeeeeeader! worldly possessssssions! not allowing them contact with faaaaaamily!!!" on cue - where to start with that kind of thing? People won't elect to stop being shitty about it as far as I can tell. Top three tumblrs agree: nonchristian ways of life that violate USA norms Must All Be Bad. Everyone who is CULT is also JIM JONES, in the minds of ostensibly sensible and non-evil-bigoted-trash tumblr bloggers, just like in the minds of confirmed idiotic fully evil bigots across the land.

how do y'all live with the belief that this natural human method of survival and love is evil, using only a description of your church, schools, military, courts, cops and judges?

if you believe what they tell you about cults, without doing any further study, on the basis of anecdote and propaganda only, fail to find out of your assumptions were based in reality & fail to scrutinize the institutions which benefit from this failure, I don't care if you think I am a bad person. You don't have the ability to discern good from bad people. That's why I say you're dangerous. If you're one of these, the norm, you are a danger to the few good people running around, the few trying to learn to be good.

If you can't understand it, I can't help you. I'm not one of the people I'm defending, here. I live alone.

The people this crew is hating and endangering are gardeners and animal husbanders and writers and shit. I'm just a city dweller with a lot of friends. Better friends than y'all will ever be, carrying around this uneducated animus for your owners' targets.

Sorry mecha, that wasn't really directed at you (unless it was, in which case, do better, in a hurry).