#consequence. usually they end up just getting used to the pain bc they're forced to but the fact that the cause of it was often avoidable
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they'd be like, oh but you're missing out!
how can i miss out on something that people have explicitly sang, written, drawn, done, portrayed, depicted, symbolized, metaphorized, et fuckin cetera, over a hundred million times already. i know more than enough about it, which means i can even more assuredly say that i'm incredibly disinterested it in all in reality
#besides even if i wanna engage with it fiction is a suitable enough of an outlet to explore those possibilities and more#its much safer and doesn't put you at risk at the real dangers and the actual health complications it would pose#''feeling good in the moment'' means nothing to me especially in comparison to ensuring that i dont die of something stupid in the future#most ppl would be like. well im not even gonna live that long anyway lol#first of all: yes you are#2nd: you'll have to live with that forever#i say the first thing bc people in the past have lived through more bullshit and stupid things but that doesnt mean it was a life without#consequence. usually they end up just getting used to the pain bc they're forced to but the fact that the cause of it was often avoidable#would leave a lasting regrettable decision forever but ppl would still strive to work towards something in the hopes#at their suffering would be worth it somehow in the future#in which case its only a matter of how they treat the ppl around them and how much ppl are gonna care for them in return#welp time to sleep lol
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but also like tbh morality discussions within fandom as they pertain to characters and what they are perceived to deserve or not seem to always have an element of shallow bias. I absolutely know what it feels like to watch a character slide through or completely past the proper consequences of their actions in canon and have most people in fandom think this is totally fine (usually bc the character in question is 'hot' to them or they ship them with someone etc), while in the same breath arguing that character b who never did anything quite as bad as 'hot' character a can't face enough consequences and honestly should probably just die/get written off the show (I could honestly make a very long list from a lot of different fandoms of the characters I'm thinking of and I'm resisting to avoid unnecessary drama but it's HARD and I know some of my moots who I've known through various fandoms with me WILL know what and who I'm talking about). there's always a bias, there's always some element of hypocrisy that people are unwilling to accept and will instead write paragraph long bullshit diatribes about why their hot fave shouldn't have to face consequences while 'loser' character b should have to face ALL of them (if you supposed that character b is usually either some combo of older/not conventionally attractive/disabled/non-white then you win, because that's p much always the case!). I've seen characters in media do absolutely despicable things that just get swept under the rug by the writers and the fans where other characters deeds do not, so it's a double-standard that has rooting in some subject materials as well. so I guess for this reason it's difficult for me to take any kind of 'this character bad, this character good' at face value bc I know there's about a 99.9% chance that whoever is arguing this is doing so from a place of very deeply seated personal bias where nuance and complexity pretty much don't exist, it's just this character bad, this character good bc I said so. The end. It's not really limited to who the narrative designates as a sympathetic/heroic character or a villain either, it's entirely up to the preexisting prejudices the person has and is just blithely ignoring as they try to form their educated, 'objective' argument. (and ofc this extends to REAL people in fandom too bc inevitably THEY are good and whoever doesn't think like them is BAD, thereby justifying whatever they end up doing or saying to the 'bad fans')
For this reason I'm glad that OFMD is not that kind of show, at least not within the main cast. I'm glad that the subject material doesn't force anyone to designate characters as 'bad, unlovable' and 'good, deserves everything' based on shallow biases like someone thinks they're hot and/or they're a cute little meow meow or part of a fave pairing or whatever. Everyone deserves acceptance, but everyone has to work for it because we're exploring the idea that people and life are more nuanced than that, that we're ALL capable of destruction and pain, that no one gets a free pass from making amends based on some flimsy predetermination that they're 'one of the good ones' who is never culpable for anything. I think it's a really strong theme to go with and I'm appreciative of the writing team for having the emotional-awareness to do it, especially in a story that will inherently attract a lot of people who are used to doing the good guy/bad guy thing, particularly in queer narratives where these viewers tend to think everyone has to be a 'good guy' or they're not a valid queer or whatever.
And idk maybe being forced to see nuance like this will get some of these cut-and-dried narrative people to rethink themselves and life as a whole, maybe it'll force some of them to realize their world-views are deeply rooted in prejudice, maybe it'll get them to think about the complexity of humans IRL and the fact that life isn't as simple as being divided between good (never responsible for anything, always a justification) and bad (never deserving of anything good, should just go die) bc like man...what a caustic way to view life and people in general, what a fucked up way to go through life, what a cheap, easy way to justify your own destruction against others smh
#not tagging just venting ig#literally been through this discussion so many times#since i first entered fandom in 99 or 00#like literally this has been happening since then and im sure much much longer
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