#civpro

[katierosefun]

:( got my second grade of law school ever

[just-about-nothing]

personal jurisdiction is so funny to me because it's like 'federalism is GROUND into the court system forcibly by generations of supreme court justices'; 'why the hell did this plaintiff file in the US?' (looking at you goodyear v brown); and 'wow the court hates lawyers! :)' (ford and mallory)

[tweetsongs]

civpro exam drained me so much that i have lost all will to write my IP paper..............help.............

[candyrain-collective]

after a semester of law school i am back for winter break. thinking about my civpro exam that i bombed. i hope i dont get a c. i dont think it'll be the end of the world but it'd make me sad.

it's weird thinking about how separate my life is - with law school, and my partners, and DID, and jfashion - it feels like all those parts of me are strangers to each other, but funnily enough, they're not actual discrete alters. lee's just been codeswitching.

it's funny how law school first semester was the period of time that lee consistently was fronting like, 99% of the time. none of us really came out. we had no reason to. there wasn't any time to be upset or triggered or miserable or distressed or manic; we had readings to do. we had to keep going.

i don't know if we're specifically adapted to this kind of life or if we're going to crack. if we've already cracked.

im going to be thinking about that potential c for a long time, i think.

[owlchimedes]

todaybor day is labor day! i'm trying to blend the concept of a holiday into the critical mass of work I have to get done while respecting the world's decision to be blustery and gray. that means getting cozy and smashing through a ton of work!

therapy appt

call momma

bake katherine hepburn's brownies

run laundry (1 | 2 | 3)

torts 91-100, 106-119

civpro supp 31-37

civpro 75-84, 91-97, 120-141

cont 94-107, 109-111

cont 61-65, 69-85

cont prob 3.4, 4.3

message KJ, TD, A, N

make fri dinner reservation

call papa

deal with terror bins (1 | 2 | 3)

clear and sort email inbox

clean kitchen

[vague-humanoid]

It’s not clear what Habba means by “only poll[ing] blue state members of the jury.” Nor is it clear why she thinks Trump is entitled to be tried outside the venue where the false business records were created — i.e. where he did the alleged crimes. But she’s been banging this drum a lot lately.

Last week she complained to Newsmax’s Greg Kelly that she didn’t have high hopes “that the jury will do the right thing,” because “we’re in a blue state, as you know, Greg, and I think everything’s by design.” (Manhattan is a state now?)

The CivPro understander is similarly pissed that “We’re in a case that was eight years old, over the statute of limitations, was denied by Cy Vance, then brought only after President Trump decided he was going to run for office.”

[pusakalye]

back here bc im really feeling it now lol

civpro first subject and im not yet done with the coverage. i havent even began my memorization and only just am reading through it. i do not think i will be sleeping tonight

agency & sales are worrying me but if i dont sleep i think i can make it through. i will believe in my reviewers in the samplexes and i will believe i can pull through.

got good grades in ethics funnily enough. i guess the prof likes me

admin im kind of nervous. ppl say she doesnt fail but i think she hates our class so im like gahhh what if i fail. idek i did so poorly in the exam and i think also in my presentation.

property. the source of literally all of my anxiety right now. i dont want to fail property but its 80% of my grade the finals so im nervous and feel like j need to die.

[babygem]

i’ve been phoning in civpro all semester in the hopes that things would click during reading period.. umm well terrified to report that it’s currently reading period and things are Nawtt clicking

[dragxnfruiit]

me yesterday: I’m gonna sketch every day!

me today: literally no time to sketch. so idk have my notes from today’s civpro, much less fun than my property doodles but hey at least there’s technically a doodle albeit a 30sec one

4/3/24

[hussain-awan]

Harvard Law Meets Pakistan’s Supreme Court: How Our 1L Education Thrived Halfway Across the World

In the throes of 1L year at Harvard Law School, we often heard our peers lamenting the insularity of American legal education and its presiding academy. 

Forced to pore over the intricacies of some constitutional device invented by John Marshall two centuries ago, our classmates complained bitterly about the narrow focus of our curriculum on domestic law and the absence of contemporary international and comparative perspectives. While there may be some truth to these grievances, our extraordinary journey from WCC to the Supreme Court of Pakistan in the foothills of the Himalayas has shown us just how remarkably versatile our 1L education can be when applied in unexpected and unfamiliar settings.

It all began with a simple question we posed to Justice Syed Mansoor Ali Shah, the incoming Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan, during an informal chat in Austin Hall last year. We asked if he had ever seen law students or lawyers, trained in the Western jurisprudential traditions of England or the United States, succeed in what seemed to us the wholly alien world of the South Asian legal system. To our surprise, he answered our question with a proposal: come to Islamabad, he said, and he would have us serve as summer law clerks at the Supreme Court during his next term. 

Uncertain about the practicality of such a venture but freed by the end of our regular summer jobs in July (I’d just finished my 1L internship in Tunisia, while Saeed was wrapping up his 2L summer in New York), we jumped at the chance to spend a few months bridging the gap between our American legal training and our Pakistani heritages. Little did we know that this casual conversation would lead us to an incredible weeks-long adventure that would not only enrich our understanding of Pakistani jurisprudence but also underscore the value of our 1L education.

The challenges we faced were, in some respects, unlike anything we had encountered in our 1L years. From the moment we stepped foot in Pakistan, we were immersed in a world where the legal landscape bore little resemblance to what we had studied at Harvard. On our first day on the job, we watched Supreme Court oral arguments with fascination, as lawyers and justices alike flitted between posh, Londoner-accented Queen’s English and an equally fluent Urdu, with Punjabi idioms sometimes thrown in for verve. 

Later, we were invited to make motorcycle trips to the much older district courts of Rawalpindi, where we saw colonial-era courtrooms –– still marked by a distinct British architectural style –– crowded in by dozens of tightly packed law offices hosting small firms and solo practitioners desperately competing to try and scrounge out a living in the environment of the katcheri (court complex).

However, the skills we had honed during our 1L year turned out to be surprisingly useful in navigating this unfamiliar territory. In a foreign legal system with its own complex set of precedents, we found ourselves stuck in the cavernous Supreme Court basement library for days, poring over hundreds of pages of the leading constitutional case law. Luckily, the endurance we’d built making our way through readings for Legislation and Regulation with Prof. Matthew Stephenson, J.D., PhD 03’, or CivPro assignments for Prof. Stephen Sachs, B.A. 02’, suddenly proved very useful. 

The agonizing hours spent on our LRW bear memos and veterinarian briefs bore fruit as we navigated new databases like the Pakistan Law Site with ease. Perhaps the most intriguing application of our 1L education came, somewhat surprisingly, in the realm of procedure. We found ourselves comparing and contrasting the use of concepts such as original jurisdiction between SCOTUS and the Supreme Court of Pakistan. 

While 1L Civil Procedure had taught us the basic idea of original jurisdiction and its limited application in the jurisprudence America’s highest Court, we now grappled with the much more expansive use of suo moto (court action without a motion) powers, original dockets, and public interest litigation in the workload of its sister institution in Pakistan.

Our experiences in Pakistan have since culminated in a comparative constitutional law paper now in the process of finalization. The paper contrasts the appellate-focused US Supreme Court with the emergence and growth of first-instance public interest litigation at the Supreme Court of Pakistan. We are thrilled to announce that our paper has already been accepted for publication in some of Pakistan’s leading law journals.

Our journey from Harvard Law School to the Supreme Court of Pakistan is a testament to the adaptability and power of our 1L education. It shows us that the skills we developed in the American legal system can be effectively applied to tackle complex legal issues in a variety of contexts. As we continue our legal careers, we are committed to building bridges between institutions in our countries of study and our countries of origin, creating opportunities for legal talent to thrive and make a meaningful impact on the law globally.

As much of a nightmare as 1L can be, our experiences halfway across the world remind us that the skills acquired during our first year can transcend borders and prove their worth in unexpected ways.

Hussain Awan is a 2L at Harvard Law School, a contributor to Harvard Law School’s Global Anticorruption Blog, a Chayes Fellow, and a former clerk to Justice Syed Mansoor Ali Shah. Awan attended McGill University, graduating as class valedictorian. 

Saeed Ahmad is a 3L at Harvard Law School active in the Harvard Association for Law & Business and the Admissions Fellow program. He graduated from UCLA and worked at LVMH before law school. He is a former clerk to Justice Syed Mansoor Ali Shah.

[katierosefun]

anyways buddies besties the way i fr woke up this morning and thought “what if i really do drop out of law school” and then went to class and realized nvm this is actually too fun and sometimes it really is that one (1) class that’s intellectually stimulating to keep you from tossing out all your notes huh

hm thinking about how my academic adviser really said “if you struggle with doing things right now for yourself, just think about how much future you will appreciate it later” and bro has that changed my mind on a lot of things but also the way i want to scream doing things that i don��t wanna do right now but fine fine fine

[mnlnotes]

23 days to go before midterms!

fix my schedule and study plan

prepare case digests for CivPro

Laban!

🎧Folklore - TS

[mourning-again-in-america]

pretty sure san antonio v hotels.com is straight up wrong assuming i know enough about supersedeas bonds and san antonio is correct about procedure in the fifth circuit being that bills for premiums on surety bonds are given in the district court after the case has "exited" the appellate court's jurisdiction, thus san antonio had no idea how much the online travel companies were paying in premiums on the surety bonds and because san antonio won a huge judgment at the trial stage and got reversed on appeal

which means that the online travel companies (incl. hotels.com)'s bankers got to make a killing at taxpayer expense, if i'm reading this right. unless supersedeas bonds' premiums are negotiated with the then-winning party? civpro is cursed. finance is cursed. civpro + finance is double cursed. this, i'm sure of.

[civpro]

lmfao i changed my url to civpro as a joke but it actually worked???

[christianmommyvlogger]

Not sure how i pulled this off but i got an A in CivPro and an A- in Torts…

[insectsinsects]

To be honest I've been outlining for Torts and civpro and then playing my yuri games in between

Mount rushmore should have this carved into it instead.