#by having Rory engage in an affair with an ex who's gonna be married

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Anonymous asked: it was interesting re-watching Summer last night on The CW it's clear that her relationship with Logan is like an addiction with her not being able to stop calling him and Lorelai says "the guy you just can't quit"; in 6x18 as well I see it as an addiction like she's saying she wishes she wasn't in love with him

That's a good point, I never considered it as her going back to L*gan in the revival as an addiction but it definitely looks like it. And come to think of it, I can't help but notice Rory in the revival and her affair with L*gan as somewhat similar to Lorelai and Christopher's relationship in season 2, even though I feel like Lorelai's feelings for Christopher were significant in that season because she almost got married and he got into a serious relationship before they could possibly start up again. Even when he was still with Cherry but not "officially" done with her, Lorelai wanted them to work, but it sadly didn't turn out. But I feel like Rory doesn't even consider the fact that L*gan's engaged here because he has no trouble simply putting it aside and having a fling with her, and at the same time I always looked at it not as Rory "always having loved him", but more about her going back to him firstly because it was convenient for her to stay at his place, but also because he was a good distraction from how her life became something she didn't really want anymore.

I feel like her feelings in 6x18 are somewhat different because by then, they were supposedly in a monogamous relationship with each other for a longer time, until she found out about the bridesmaids and was very hurt by it. But I do get why it could be considered as an 'addiction' towards the relationship, only here I think her feelings are much more involved in it, since she can't seem to end it because she loves him, even if it sounds like it's not something she's all that happy about.

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Sending you this through an ask because this is gonna get long: I actually agree with you on the abortion! For me it's not just that I hate the whole "bound to repeat your parents' mistakes" storyline that overall doesn't even fit Rory, given the state that she is in after season 7, it's that I generally dislike the idea that women have to change and can change through having a child, therefore will have some sort of higher purpose to become more stable versions of themselves. It's a narrative choice that I've seen in other media and I find it so depressing to think about not just for the female characters who before this, didn't seriously consider or even think about having a kid, but also for the kid themselves that only exist for some narrative choice. I know that some can say this is also the case with Lorelai, but her situation was more different and she wasn't really given much of a choice when it came to keeping Rory or having an abortion. When it comes to Rory herself, I feel like the option for her to have an abortion would not only be a more modern take on the similar situation that Lorelai was in, but also a pretty good idea for the start of Rory actually deciding what she should do with her life. Rory at this point is an adult, and if the whole point of the revival is for her to at the end, start putting her life together, then one of the better options would be to choose to not have a baby that she neither planned for or considered.

I also feel like the main reason why some fans hold onto the idea of Rory being pregnant and having a baby is just so there will be an option for her and Logan to get back together, and honestly I find it so cheapening not only for Rory but even for Logan. So apparently him having this affair with her wasn't really enough to make him consider whether or not he should be getting married, but her having a baby will suddenly make him become the hero of his own story and choose otherwise? It also takes to making a choice and narrative that should be centered around Rory and what she chooses to being centered around Logan and how apparently his ex having his kid being the final push this 35 year old man needed in order to break free from his rich family's clutches......it's just so degrading to Rory and even her kid in my opinion to see that storyline as this, tbh. There's also the obvious fact that Rory did make her choice about him before she even discovered she was pregnant, yes it was a choice influenced by his decision to marry but it's still a valid choice. After Rory rejected his offer to use his house for writing and potentially continue to be connected to him in some way (before the pregnancy reveal), she went on with her life. We don't see her agonize over her "lost love" or anything, we just see her continuing to do what she wants, which is namely writing her book.

Omg you agree thank f*ck I’m not alone in this opinion!! I completely with all of this, but especially your point about the «having a child immediately makes you better»- and the «doomed to repeat your parents’ mistakes»-tropes. I seriously do not want to shame unplanned families, but this whole narrative trope of a woman deciding to keep her pregnancy because she any other option is impossible is frankly insulting, especially in the 21st century. If Rory were to go through with the pregnancy I would want her to actively choose to, not just jump into it because it happened and she might as well just follow the flow. A child is a living breathing feeling being, not a summer project, and I want more shows to treat having a child as a serious choice to make and not just «the next step in our relationship» or «the project that will heal me».

And frankly I think Rory choosing to have an abortion would benefit everyone relevant to the pregnancy. Rory herself would be making the decision to wait with having a child until she feels ready (and in her case has gotten her sh*t together), Lorelai and Luke might be inspired to finally make a choice about having children of their own, and Logan would actually have the chance to either reconnect with or say goodbye to Rory without being «tied down by a kid» — which btw is such a f*cked up thing. I don’t ship them together, but by all accounts Rory having an abortion would make Logan’s potential decision to get divorced/call off the engagement to be with her a lot more of an active choice, which would also be a character development move for him. But personally I like the option more because it wouldn’t tie Rory to him, especially after she’s already made her peace with him and chosen a life with herself over him. And I’m not just saying this as a literati-shipper (which granted I really really am) but because I would rather see Rory be happy and self assured as a single working woman who might even choose to have children by herself, rather than falling into a pattern she never wanted/saw for herself when she has the option of choosing differently.

And I’m not going to lie, the «Rory has an abortion» idea has me thinking of so many different plotlines they could do and how her choice would not just affect her for the better but the community around her. Rory deciding not to go through with the pregnancy could be a wake up call to get her life on track both for herself and for potential future children. Sharing this with Lorelai could both create a new level of bonding between them, and cause Lorelai to reflect on her own choice and be even more confident in the choice she made. Logan potentially finding out about all of this could make him look further at himself and his choices and how to improve as a person, not to mention confrontation with Rory. Lane and Paris finding out (in my head they join her at the clinic and are there for her) could inspire them to look at their own situations and do what they can to improve them. Rory sharing this with Jess might reveal that he does not in fact have his sh*t together either yet, and inspire him to finally work on the sh*t that’s left and connect more with other people than Luke. And yeah, some of these plotpoints could be reworked into a «single mother Rory» plot, but I still think Rory going a different route would be more interesting and (dare I say it) mildly radical for a beloved mainstream television show.

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god i am Tired why does everyone love logan so much

I honestly don't know lmao. I mean I can understand the appeal of his character on a surface level. He's rich, can be charming when he wants to be, and is generally pretty easy going, but overall as the show goes on he really just gets worse and worse (or he gets better and becomes a somewhat better boyfriend before turning into a not-so-good one again). I can never really be into his character the same way all his fans are, because while they like to view his "development" as only a linear one, to me he basically flunctuates in whichever way the writers need him to in order for their plot (usually involving Rory) to work.

Logan can be charming and attentive when he tries to get what he wants (like getting Rory back after their fight in Balalaikas), but he can also be overly defensive about his actions and offensive towards anyone who questions or doubts him (their fight in Balalaikas or him continuing to excuse himself for sleeping with the bridesmaids). While his easygoing personality is a feature everyone loves about him in season 5/7, to me it gets a bit old after a while. Like sure, I appreciate him at least being honest with Rory about not wanting to date, but I also don't like how Rory wound up crying on the bathroom floor because of their so-called "arrangement". I also don't like how he doesn't give Rory the space to explain herself and makes her doubt her feelings when she asked him if she could come over after the wedding, only to turn up to a poker game (when he very likely knew she wanted alone time with him, even if it was for them to just talk). He also always wants something he can't really have, which is what Rory deliberately has to use in order to have him spend time with her (by going out with Robert first). Even their whole conversation where she tells him she can't go on with this fwb situation, his weird exasperation over being a boyfriend is uh, pretty foreshadowing. Like look, I'm not gonna say he has to agree only with enthusiasm, but to me, Logan's complete lack of experience with mutual romantic relationships is an issue that shows itself multiple times even in season 5. He's completely fine to let Rory do anything (even commit a crime and go to jail), because from his perspective it's "no big deal", but he never considers what could've possibly caused her to get the idea to impulsively do something like this. It's why his whole speech about her being "sheltered" or w/e is just ironic to me, seeing as how he has absolutely zero problem doing anything and everything, because he's allowed to, to the point where he doesn't seem to even grasp the notion of his actions (or Rory's) having consequences.

I also simply don't like who Rory becomes around him as a person. Logan isn't directly responsible for Rory's behavior, but he is a catalyst for it, and since Rory wants to appear cool and easygoing like he is in order to continue getting his attention, this later just snowballs into various problems she causes for herself.

When it comes to how his character is more often than not used for a plot device, it's obvious with how Rory is "introduced" to the easy ways of the rich with him leading her into that, to being completely passive to her sudden shift after dropping out of Yale. Even in the revival, Logan isn't really much of a developed character. The bare bones of his personality are there, but he's used more as a sign to show that Rory's in a really bad place for herself, that she would fall into another affair with an ex-boyfriend, before she breaks if off with him. Not to mention the pregnancy, which was Amy's apparent dream for Rory all along.

I think that overall, his fans love Logan's fun personality on a surface level. And it really helps that he's just rich and his story/life is and always will be tied to him being rich. Lmao if there's one thing I've learned from this hellsite is that people love excusing rich people, fictional or real, because they want their lifestyle. To a lot of Logan fans that I've seen, he basically represents that. So it's easy for them to excuse everything and anything he does. Logan's not really emotionally mature when it comes to his situation with his future career? "Mitchum's abusive!!!" (Also funny how Mitchim apparently being abusive excuses Logan's behavior, but Jess having a flaky mother who abandoned him is no excuse for anything). Logan sleeps with numerous girls immediately after thinking he and Rory are broken up? "He apologized and he thought it wasn't cheating so it's not cheating!!!" (He never apologized btw, he simply made Rory doubt her being understandably upset by repeatedly excusing himself and not considering her own feelings on the matter) Logan proposes to Rory at her own graduation party without even so much as talking to her about marriage before that but merely asking Lorelai for her permission? "RORY SHOULD'VE SAID YES. HE LOVED HER. I WOULD'VE MARRIED LOGAN" Logan is cheating on his fiancee with Rory and wants to continue his affair even after getting married? "He's following the dynastic plan!! He wants Rory to ask him to not marry Odette!! Rory is actually to blame for this because Logan loves her and can do no wrong!!" There is no moment in the revival that shows him so much as even thinking about Rory wanting to ask him anything. If he didn't want to marry Odette, I'm fairly certain he could've simply chosen to break off his engagement. Logan always has the weight of his own choices taken away from him by his fans because they simply cannot accept him not being perfect and good, because for the most part, he's their wish fulfillment of sorts.

Overall, whenever I watch his scenes I can stand him and go along with it or w/e, but his story is never that interesting and he's not really as charming as his fans make him out to be so much, he's just smug for the most part of his screentime. I think that, if anyone was actually a fan of Logan, flaws and all, and not just how he's a "giving" rich boyfriend, they'd want him to go to therapy and maybe find some better friends.