#but they do all have very similar beliefs and that is they're clones and soldiers first(and yes brothers)

[foxika]

You did not hijack this post!!! This is awesome and I also love this idea; it's also a bit more canon compliant because this is just kinda how the majority of the clones function. The Umbara arc is an example of that. Maybe Fox is like Rex where he's unsure, and disagrees fundamentally, but this is his superior, and not just that, but the Chancellor of the Republic. Fox has to do what he says, because if the leader of the Republic he was conditioned to be loyal to no matter what is wrong, then what was it all for?

When we first meet Ahsoka she challenges this. She looks at the formation the 501st have taken, and asks Rex if this is really the best way to do it. And Rex responds that maybe not, but General Skywalker ordered it, so that's what they're doing. When we first meet Dogma, Anakin and Rex both acknowledge that he is incredibly similar to Rex.

Not every clone is like Fives, who had a unique perspective due to his time on Kamino, nor is every clone like Rex, who had Ahsoka and Fives to confront the beliefs he was raised with.

A common Commander Fox trope in fics is writing everyone outside of the CG(or CG included) being really mean to him, and then him killing Fives being the final nail where they truly, completely cut him off. Usually, Fox is written to be under some form of duress when he kills Fives. In this new year we gotta change that. No more incredibly forgiving Fox. He murders Fives out of straight pettiness.

I need him to be so jaded and pissed off by everything that's happened, to be envious of his brothers outside of the Coruscant Guard, that he murders Fives in retaliation. "None of you ever listened to me or took me seriously, so I'm going to make you."

Fives going off the rails and threatening the safety of the leader of Republic doesn't matter, it's just an excuse for Fox to lash out in the most severe way possible.

[darth-jess]

You say you're pro Jedi, yet you're ALSO saying that Jedi are "corrupt from the war", "they refuse to change their ways", and "they're arrogant", which is VERY typical arguments from a certain crowd that are against the Jedi. You're no different from that crowd. Just say you like Anakin and go. I'm so tired of seeing the same arguments from THAT crowd that you are using also. If you say that about my people who have embraced their culture and practiced Buddhism for many years now, I won't forgive you. We've already been made fun of by many ignorant Westerners now.

Hi Anon!

(Their question refers to my 3 post series: It's Okay to Love the Jedi and Anakin at the Same Time)

My question is: why is it so hard to believe that all of these things are true? The Jedi are corrupt from the war. The Jedi have become arrogant. They do refuse to change their ways. And I am still pro Jedi, because I love them.

First, though.

I think it's very important to clarify:

The Jedi religion is not the same thing as Buddhism.

Yes, they're very similar in many aspects. Obviously, George Lucas was deeply inspired by Buddhism while creating the Jedi, and their ideology is heavily based on Buddhist beliefs and teachings. However, you cannot claim that my criticism of the Jedi is in any way a criticism of Buddhism, because the (very few) aspects of the Jedi belief system I actually do criticize are not aspects of Buddhism at all. The vast majority of what I criticize about the Jedi is not a criticism of their philosophy though, it is a criticism of their actions– actions that George Lucas specifically chose for narrative purpose, to create a system on the brink of collapse.

I have great respect for the Jedi philosophy and Buddhism in general. Buddhism is actually a religion of my personal ancestors– my grandmother is Japanese and was raised with Buddhism and Shintoism. So Buddhism is a part of my cultural heritage and I grew up learning a lot about it from my grandmother.

Re: "Corrupt from War."

When I discuss the Jedi being corrupt, I realized it's important to clarify which definition of corrupt I am using. So from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

The Jedi do not (to my knowledge) engage in dishonest or illegal behavior, and they are not bribed or induced to engage in wrongful behavior. So the definition I refer to is definition C: a departure from the original or from what is pure or correct.

The Jedi are meant to be peacekeepers. They literally call themselves that. The fact that war breaks out at all means the Jedi have finally failed. On top of that, many Jedi became Generals in the war that they could not prevent.

Ahsoka Tano beautifully sums up this problem:

"As a Jedi, we were trained to be keepers of the peace, not soldiers. But all I've been since I was a Padawan is a soldier."

The Jedi, in an effort to protect the Republic, depart from their original purpose as peacekeepers, and in doing so they have corrupted themselves.

This is exactly why Sidious' plan works so well.

Order 66 is not the revenge of the Sith, it's just the end of it.

The whole revenge of the Sith is the Clone Wars themselves.

The Jedi are forced to become something they're not, forced into situations that put their own morals to the test. And don't get me wrong, they still often come out with the moral high ground (<– haha).

Re: "They Refuse to Change Their Ways."

They do refuse to change their ways, and there's nothing inherently wrong with this! The Jedi philosophy has literally worked for thousands of years, and it's beautiful.

However, in regard to Anakin, I do believe the most compassionate response to his situation would have been to make some more exceptions for him once they decided he could become a Jedi.

Re: "Just say you like Anakin and go."

I don't just like Anakin, I LOVE Anakin– the literal main character of Star Wars. He's my favorite! But Jedi religion has helped me get through a lot of shit in my life (I've got chronic anxiety, depression, and deal with some trauma) and I love talking about it and analyzing it as a religion as well as the role of the Jedi in the Star Wars movies and other media.

Re: "They're arrogant."

"Too sure of themselves they are; a flaw more and more common in Jedi. Even the older more experienced ones." –Yoda, Attack of the Clones

Yoda literally admits the Jedi have become more and more arrogant. He does it in his usual, sweet, kind-of-joking manner, as a way to show Obi-Wan he might be falling into the trap of arrogance, but Yoda isn't making something up just to teach Obi-Wan a lesson. Many Jedi have become far more arrogant, and Yoda has noticed it.

And look.

The Jedi do have every right to be a little arrogant. They kept peace for 1000 years, the Sith have been dead for 1000 years (or so they believe). They are at the height of their power, and the Republic is (seemingly) thriving.

Re: "Being made fun of by ignorant Westerners"

Going to be honest, that's really messed up and I'm sorry you've gone through this! As someone who tries to embody the Jedi teachings myself, this is very upsetting to me regardless of whether you're describing people making fun of your Buddhist or Jedi groups.

People all over the world could benefit from Jedi wisdom. If we were all a bit more like Jedi and tried to be more compassionate and understanding of each other even when we disagree, the world would certainly be a better place.

And finally…

I'll once again state how much it saddens me that we cannot be seen to be critical of the things we love, lest we be branded a "hater." I understand there are real haters out there who use these arguments, but honestly, if they are using these specific arguments, they aren't wrong, and they're good arguments because they're actual facts of the story that help drive the plot.

However, these facts aren't supposed to make anyone hate the Jedi. They're supposed to show you the tragedy of the Jedi, how these beautiful, compassionate people had their own nature used against them by the Sith to basically destroy themselves– or at least put them in the perfect place for annihilation.

Had the Jedi been perfect, Sidious never would have been able to get the upper hand on them. He wouldn't have been able to hide from them so well, or even start the Clone Wars.

The Jedi literally have to be flawed for the story of Star Wars to happen. George Lucas designed it that way.

If anyone has any follow up questions send me an ask!

[weedeaterisback]

Lore of the Enforcement. Part 1

The Enforcement is a powerful army with countless of clone super soldiers wearing AX-1 Power armor, and with a goal to take over the Multiverse. They are extremist that uses brutal methods. They despise corruption and love fighting.

The Enforcers are similar to the Space Marines from Warhammer 40K, except they aren't from Warhammer 40k and does not fight for mankind or an "emperor". They fight to keep the Multiverse balanced. Enforcers LOVE war and fighting, every enforcers normally charge into the battlefield with gun blazing since they do not fear death thanks to the indestructible AX Power armor they wear. Every Enforcers do not give names to themselves and instead goes by their given number. "XT-233," "XT-5000." Enforcer-Zealots are known as "ZT-3237". Enforcers never take off their power armor or even their own helmet, for as they identity with their armor. The Enforcers can live up for thousands of years. (They cannot die from aging) Every Enforcers loadout are equip with almost every weapons. Holstering a Energy Revolver by their ankle, carrying a chainsword by their waist, carrying a Core ShotGun and a heavy assault rifle by their back, etc, etc. The power armor worn by Enforcers are extremely powerful. Nothing can pierce it's armor, not a single being or weapon in the entire multiverse can damage or pierce it. The power armor is so strong that an Enforcer can survive a nuclear blast or an orbital strike with minor injuries. The armor is design to adapt against everything; hot climate, cold climate, distortion, acid, etc. The Power Armor is also made out of Anperfysium (yay rozital lore reference).

Paladin Destroyers are armed with a very wide variety of weapons mounted in front of and beneath the bridge. Visible weapons forward of the bridge include a one or two large cannons, two large self-loading rocket pods, and two large Gatling guns; 2 large triple-barreled naval guns are also visible mounted on the hull beneath the bridge. The only named weapon is the ATLAS Cannon, which fires the Precision Strike. The Paladin Destroyer is capable of firing a it's precision ATLAS Cannon, Gatling gun, 120mm and 380mm Artillery, specialized Gas, EMS, and Airburst shells, a high intensity Laser, and a high velocity Railcannon.

The Omega Destroyer is a one of a kind ship that is the size of a planet. It is the leading ship in the main Enforcement fleet. The ship is the icon of the Enforcement and the Sentinel council is onboard. The Omega Destroyer can pack a powerful attack that could destroy an entire planet.

The Enforcer Imperialium is a very special rank that is rarely given by the Sentinel Council, any Enforcers chosen by the Imperialium will have to go through a very advanced and specialized training. This training transform any Enforcers into an warrior that is skilled in the most advanced combat and tactical skills, as well as a heightened understanding of the Enforcement's beliefs and ideologies.

The Enforcers have special Legions that have their own unique Enforcers and weapons. The Drillmaster Legion are a chapter of Enforcers that rely on weaponized mining equipment and use them for combat or constructions of outposts, they like to ambush from underground by digging straight to the surface where the enemy least expected. Their power armor have waists blades or a drill attached, and they carry more explosive based weapons. The Drillmaster Legion is led by Imperialium XT-266. The Drillmaster Legion are known to be the crazy ones, they're known to fight like beasts in combat and they make mining equipment look like a deadly weapon of war. If you asked anyone about them, they'll tell you that they are the toughest and the most brutal of all the Enforcement divisions, and are known to be savages in combat. They also have the most brutal torture method to "dig up" information out of the enemy. The Heavy Legion specialize in maxing out the armor of their Enforcers to act as walking shields for the other Enforcers. They have a gatling gun attached to their right arms and a big heavy shield on the other. The Heavy Legion is led by XT-1059.

The Firefly Legion is the most recent division formed by the newest Imperialium, XT-63. The Firefly Division specializes in using fire based weaponry and jetpacks to rain down fire upon their enemy from the sky. They use flamethrowers, incinerators, and ballistic weapons that fire 5000 degree bolts at their enemies. They are the most feared Special Division next to the Drillmaster Division. They wear their power armor that has painted a nice hot-rod design, with a mix of red, black and gold yellow. The red signify bravery while black shows death to their enemies and gold represent the pride of the Enforcers Firefly's

XT-1059 is an Imperialium who is in charge of the Heavy Division. He is the most serious and strongest Enforcer. He has his own custom power armor which is fittingly named the "Juggernaut"

XT-266 is an Imperialium who is in charge of the Drillmaster Division. He is the most unpredictable and funniest, and always like to joke around. He is the least serious than XT-1059, and love to have a "Sibling rivalry" between his division and the heavy division. XT-63 is the most recent Enforcer to become an Imperialium. He was an Enforcer Ultra serving his Force Captain's company on a mission to recapture the planet "Nova". After leading his platoon with interesting concept, his force captain propose to the Sentinel Council which put XT-63 through the test to see if he is up for the task. XT-63 proven himself and was promoted to an Imperialium. He is best pal with XT-266 and XT-1059.

Enforcer-Zealots (or ZT-Insert number) are highly trained specialized Enforcers that wears a white custom X0-2 power armor. Some of them are bred to be at this rank, while others has to be promoted to take training from the honorable Sangheili warriors or the Adaptus Master himself that will train these Zealots wannabes

The Adaptus Legion is a legion of specialized elite Enforcers trained as harden, stealthy warriors. They are led by ZT-001, AKA Adaptus Master. The Zealots rely one weapon and one weapon only; an energy blade. The Zealots are disciplined warriors and are used as guards for the Sentinel Council.

Spartan-berry is a liquid that the Enforcers love to drink in celebration, it is the only drink they rather drink than alcohol, a drink which they hate.

Enforcer Ranks:

The Enforcers ranks are color coded, their ranks are represented by the numbers and the color of the stripes on their right arm. One yellow stripe = Minor, the lowest rank of the Enforcer. Two yellow stripes = Major. Three yellow stripes = Ultra, the rank that give you a squad of lower ranks to lead. One red stripe = Captain, they take charge of platoons. Two red stripes = Commander, they command a company of enforcers. Three red stripes = Force captain, they command a battalion (over a hundred enforcers) and wear an AX-2 power armor. One blue stripes = Field master, they lead a brigade of Enforcers and are in charge of the security and transporting supplies of Enforcement controlled territory. One blue and Red stripes = Lieutenant, These serve as the right hand to their Company Shipmaster, typically commanding one of the Company's two demi-companies. Two blue and one red stripe = ShipMaster, they command their very own paladin destroyer, commanding a large portion of Enforcers. Two Blue and Two red stripes = Fleet Master, they command their fleet of paladin destroyers and command enforcers. They also act as second in command and advisors to the Chapter Master that they served. Three Red and Two blue stripes = Chapter Master — The highest attainable rank of Enforcers, commanding their fleet of ships and invasion forces under their command. The Chapter Master only answer to the Imperialium and the Sentinel Council.