#but then he'll go around like. taking photos with war criminals and saying weird shit about kosovo and it's kinda. well that's my line yeah
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batsplat · 4 months ago
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just read ur take on the big three rivalries/relationships and i wanted to know how much u know about djokovics and nadals history with the whole being friendly/sharing an manager/practising together until novak started dominating (the way rafa literally switched from calling him to nole to novak in 2011 specifically after the madrid incident lmao and novak deflecting when asked how their friendship was going at wimbledon that same year) i feel like those two have a lot of history and most people ignore it or just arent aware of it ig
they do have a lot of history! idt they were necessarily THAT friendly with each other pre 2011. nadal was always the wunderkind who djokovic (and murray) were chasing. you had classic young djokovic moments like saying that he was in control of his rg 2006 match with nadal until djokovic's back problems, that he realised he didn't have to do anything special to defeat nadal, that nadal's beatable (nadal won the first two sets 6-4 6-4 before djokovic retired). still one of the funniest things he's said fairs
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but their relationship did clearly get worse in 2011, when djokovic had that phenomenal season and beat nadal all six times they faced each other (still a shame he lost his first match that year at the roland garros semis against federer, denying us the final with nadal everyone wanted to see). there's also obviously stuff like handshake compilations over the years lol
anyway, their relationship also seemingly took a turn for the worse in 2022 over the whole australia deportation drama. I should say that in their early years, big three rivalries were a little more exciting (well, maybe not federer/nadal, but the other two) - it's just that all three of them were increasingly committed to just being ultra respectful *cough* pr merchants *cough* and it limited how much they would even let themselves do anything interesting. nadal can be a bit of a prick who's a lot more amiable when he's winning and is generally more of a sore loser than djokovic, but what's the point if you've collectively taken a vow to not rock the boat? and djokovic, who became massively unpopular for absolutely no good reason, eventually responded to all the criticism and booing with this slightly desperate attempt to make himself loved - the boob throw celebration is obviously the most infamous example and thank god he dropped that a few years ago. which is compelling in itself, but unfortunately it's all considerably less compelling these days... whenever he's being a pantomime villain, it's now about The Establishment.... stuff like this wimbledon where he was being kinda delusional about what the fans were yelling, saying they were booing him when they were calling his opponent's name, which? I like that, I liked the interview, it was silly camp fun. and then it became discourse bloody piers morgan was speaking out on as some kind of grand statement about how djokovic wouldn't let himself be silenced any more. that's not fun!!
anyway, djokovic/nadal is still an all time great tennis rivalry, and I've enjoyed plenty of their matches over the years. just don't think they offered quite enough narrative tension to live up to *59 matches* and monopolising the sport + all the attention within it for like. a lot of years. idk they could've move more imo
#I think I also used to be more invested in them as like. narratives. I too did get hype for the matches#but then at a certain point u get into watching the tennis archives and get into other sports and it's a bit?? okay right#there's so much better material Out There like must we settle for crumbs of narrative intrigue#listen I too can sell pretty much any rivalry if sufficiently motivated but also enough people are doing big three prop#it still doesn't really have a story beyond 'nadal was the wunderkind and djokovic ended up surpassing him'#the most interesting recent thing they've said is when nadal was like yeah djokovic has a compulsion to be best I just focus on The Process#//#batsplat responds#I should really think of a tennis tag hm. this is serious business I fear I need to come up with something I vibe with#also at the end of the day a lot of these opinions are driven by accumulated bitterness#I'm sure you'll be shocked to find out I've been a fan of some of their favourite punching bags over the years#I do think it's a bit criminal to dominate a sport THAT much and be that boring. and god they never stopped#fully believed we were gonna get a cute chaos era post big three but I am now free of even this delusion and don't care anymore#djokovic is so annoying because he could've been super fun but ended up not being that#like the us open 2011 fed match is still some of the coldest shit I've ever seen. that slapped!! kid me very much moved#he's a bit jorge lorenzo coded in some ways if u think about it#but then he'll go around like. taking photos with war criminals and saying weird shit about kosovo and it's kinda. well that's my line yeah
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