#but that same stronggggg pushback against a transfem/trans woman character vs immediate accepted 'yay transmasc / man rep!'
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i'm not really a dr fan anymore but something that will NEVER stop driving me up the wall is the overlap in dr/persona fans where i would hear things like "oh no. chihiro's not a trans girl. [she] just hid [her] gender because [she] was insecure, didn't you play the game? didn't you see [her] dialogue? what do you mean the writers are transmisogynistic? chihiro said it in-game, 'i'm a boy now!'. [she] was never really trans. [she] was just insecure about being a weak boy. that's a common trope in these kinds of games! [she] even asked for help to stop hiding as a girl before [she] died, see, isn't it obvious? even [her] post-game content has [her] say it outright. why can't [she] just be a gnc man? can't men be feminine? just because [she] dresses up femininely doesn't make [her] a girl."
..................and then these same people would turn around and go "persona writers were so transphobic. naoto is obviously a trans boy". like Hey... hey. hey everyone. why don't we think about this for a second?
(i do not think either of these characters are cis. these characters are both very trans coded, chihiro as a trans girl and naoto as a trans boy. i am not saying these characters are cisgender. this is a post about transmisogyny in fandom)
#this is a legitimate argument i saw btw. the same people would say chihiro wasn't transfem and the writing there was not full of problems#and talk about how persona4 writers were transphobic with naoto's arc#and how him essentially detransitioning makes no sense#..adds the thing at the bottom against weird and bad faith arguments#bracketing chihiro's pronouns because it feels uncomfortable to not use she/her for her but obviously the people making that argument...#are not using she/her.#not sure if this is my place to post abt this because i am tme but it's something that i think abt sometimes#i also see similar arguments with june egbert. not the exact same bc june and chihiro are very different character/situations obviously#but that same stronggggg pushback against a transfem/trans woman character vs immediate accepted 'yay transmasc / man rep!'
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