#but in hindsight it's a welcome change from the slob fest of playing the other routes that are too identical
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randomnameless · 1 year ago
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Oh!
Are you playing with the JP voices? I remember hearing Judith scream when Ignatz died, it was... something!
and inoue does a banger job as Rhea especially in this route
Apparently Rhea being in Faerghus means Cornelia can't pull the shit she does in the other routes, so Dimitri has both of his eyes, his friends and would be in a pretty good situation if someone didn't wake up and decided to Make Adrestia Great Again.
Easy, Agarthans can give her shinies and "war assets" (Hanneman in an explore convo, I think?, mentions how Demonic Beasts are still used as "war assets", but we don't use them as the BESF, and that's a damn shame because I wonder how they could have implemented their mechanics), when the Church is BaD and led by a monster and a inhuman creature masquerading as a human.
Well about the lack of progress... While I can see Cornelia not being able to do Cornelia things since Rhea is here could explain why her war is slower - but then, she still has the largest and most powerful (if only by sheer numbers!) army on the continent. Having only managed to conquer a city in a mountain and not having managed to breah through the Kingdom or the Alliance is kind of super meh... especially as 3 Hopes shows that she could have moved (at least in the Alliance?) faster. But yeah, if that point was supposed to be cute because "she loves you and is so obsessed with you that she forgot her war!", it sort of missed its mark?
I love Bernie's comment here - because while the game wants to make you feel very sad (tm) for dicing students, technically, your characters only spent around 1 year with the students who aren't from their house, and they were never seen talking/speaking to each other (bar some cross houses supports), so yes, Bernie being "who?" about Claude is oddly fitting - she never met or talked to him before!
Rhea has many reasons for snapping in this route, even as early as now (her sort-of grandkid became Nemesis 2.0 and is out for her blood and bones, working with Agarthan backed up Hresvelgs...)
Edel's questions... are something, but yep, it's ultimately a huge sunk-cost fallacy explanation, if you're going to fight, fight until you die - but does this mean Edel makes no war prisoners or offers no mercy to defeated soldiers? If they fought, they should fight to death? It's not that well developed and only food for thought...
Caspar's brother is worried about Randolph, but also about Capsar taking his position... but then we enter in weird nonsensical Adrestian mechanics - Caspar's dad (Leopold!) is both the Minister of War and the Head of House Bergliez (the head of that house is always minister of war?). So if Caspar's brother is the Head of the House, is he worried about Caspar stealing his title as head or the house, or becoming Minister of War when Leopold will retire?
And yes, Caspar calls Randolf his uncle in other routes, when you make them fight!
It seems as if Edel advocates for a certain meritocracy - thus someone's "desires" shouldn't be a factor in who gets the title, only merits count... but then, comes the problematic question of what are those merits ? IIRC, in the non CF routes, when Randolph charges against GM, he does it because it will bolster his reputation (make a name for himself?), so is he thinking he has to have some "achievments" to get the title, or what?
I could go in details about the localisation in this routes (or in this game in general) regarding Edel's aversion to, uh, non-humans, especially Nabateans, but a good part of her rhetoric, at this point, targeted at "Rhea and her family" is all about how "non human" they are, as beings, regardless of their actions. Which is why this point is, hm, still heavily discussed around some places.
Good find with the Uchiha Tablet of Bullsthi lol. I won't go in details here - but if the First Emperor (Willy) was alive after the War of Heroes, he must have witnessed Macuil (the giant bird!) fuck away from Fodlan, Flayn falling in her restorative coma, and Seteth leaving to watch over her - so how the fuck were they "ruling" over Fodlan if they weren't there/removed themselves from the World?
But you know who got control of Fodlan after the War of Heroes? The Empire, Adrestia!
Methinks the Adrestia Tablet of Bullshit was tweaked by Agarthans - or Adrestian themselves, who are still salty about the entire "Church accepted Faerghus's independence".
Linhardt's take is even stupider when you consider that his crest, Flayn's Crest, boosts his healing magic. So sure, it can be used on battlefield, but also, to heal random people who suffer from random accidents, like, idk, NPC #55 falling down her roof, or something like that. But I guess Lin doesn't find healing useful?
Claude's reaction make a bit more sense when you consider Nader's motto which seems to be a general Almyran MO : people run away instead of dying - but here, in this case, Hilda who would have been the epitome of running away to avoid danger (at least on a shallow first reading) wants to, instead, protect him even if it costs her life, something he comes to understand too late (yes, in this route, he is beloved by the people of the Alliance, but only realises it too late).
Nader reappears in a paralogue - but that's his gimmick, he's called the Undefeated, but only because he runs away and never fights to death (which isn't a bad strategy, even if in this Derdriu map, he let his Crown Prince/Future King die).
Second chapter of CF down. Bye, Claude <3
I powered through yet another month of boring monastery stuff with the single thought of seeing Claude again (and killing him <3). If nothing else, this route is much more amusing than SS because I can see characters I care about doing stuff... as the enemy... but they're there!
Which really just highlights again how much of a missed opportunity Academy phase really is. They have all your future enemy units in the same place with you and then do basically nothing to make you care about them. It's all left onto replay or presuming they have off-screen relationships.
Aside from that, Edelgard's narrative about the Relics, human superiority and anti-dragon people is... hm. Well, it sure is a thing! Given how blatantly misconstrued some of the stuff she's saying gets (eg, about the Relics), the writers had to have been intentionally writing her as being utterly misguided, and I get that you're buying into her coolaid in the CF route. But the fact that you can't ever confront her about it in other routes despite all the "if only we could have understood each other :(" is just so.... sigh. It's unsatisfying to put it mildly.
Live blogging:
Hubert and Ferdie B: Hubert goes against Edelgard's explicit orders for something.
Felix says he's killed tons of people for the empire in the last five years and has the same look in his eyes now as Dimitri. lol
Dimitri with both eyes <3
Hubert's pre-Bridge conversation is hilarious. We need to cooperate with the Agarthans (presented as Arundel's subordinates) because we need to topple the Church! This is a very painful decision for Edelgard because you see they used her father as a puppet and killed her siblings :( Why are we more opposed to the church than these assholes? Well, because, I guess.
Bridge mission - nothing interesting. We do fight Judith, who has a unique model but is never playable. She's holding the bridge because Acheron is useless. He shows up as a horse guy (I'm pretty sure he was a mage in another route?) and then ditches after only one turn.
Afterwards, everyone makes fun of Edelgard for doing a bad job running the war until now because she's been too into Byleth. I've heard this angle before, but I think the actual difference is kind of mixed. They made less progress in the Kingdom, but that was all on Cornelia anyway, so it comes down more to Rhea not getting captured, presumably because she didn't have Byleth weighing her down. And the Alliance situation was never a real invasion in the five year gap to begin with. SS did have Lorenz siding with the Empire, but the exact in and out is kinda... hard to track.
Anyway, now we're in the Claude killing month!
Talk about how Claude has been acting as intermediary between those that oppose the Empire and those who support it, keeping them from fighting each other. Since everyone is compromising to keep the Alliance united for now, no one has openly sided with the Empire either.
But now he's scheming something, as we know because people have been stopped from entering or leaving Derdriu.
Everyone else: Claude is a smart, tough opponent. Bernie: Who's Claude
Ladislava is tasked with managing the supply lines and keeping the Goneril territories under control.
Being betrayed by Byleth made Rhea crack. "She started laughing as if she was possessed and spouting complete gibberish..."
Edelgard: Why can't people admit defeat without fighting back first? If they're going to surrender after I crush them under my boot, why not surrender without fighting? (Logically collolary: If you choose to fight, die fighting and never surrender. Explains why she's Like That in Azure Moon: sunk cost fallacy)
Edie is "not disinterested" in romance lol
Caspar family drama: His older brother is lazy, greedy and skates by relying on his position as heir. Their grandfather was really obsessed with his second wife, Randolph's mom. And she really wanted Randolph to become the heir, but the grandfather had to step down "earlier than expected," so Caspar's dad took over the title. With all this, Caspar's brother is really worried about the possibility of I guess Randolph taking over as heir instead.
This has.... interesting implications, I guess.
First, this makes Randolph Caspar's uncle, lmao
Second, I really, really wonder if Randolph was the grandpa's biological child. His mom explicitly married in after he was already born, but she could just as easily have been the grandpa's mistress. Either way, we get a very funny inheritance situation because Randolph does not have a crest, we can see that in his battle stats. So either crest ownership just doesn't matter in this case (lol Edie), or even wilder, you can just pass on your title to a completely unrelated child. Even if they ARE related, that's likely unprovable without a crest. (lol Edie extra hard)
Third, I wonder what the exact timeline here is? Because if Caspar's dad took over recently enough, he might not have been the lord who took part in the Insurrection. That might explain why he's inexplicably so chill about helping Edie take the throne and gain a whole ton of military power.
Edie, of course, turns this around as "this is the price of taking your own desires into account when choosing an heir" and this is why "the concept of nobility is decaying" but isn't Edie opposed to nobility in the first place? And she doesn't plan to institute a democracy anyway, so isn't everyone just going to be choosing their heirs based on "their own desires"?
She goes on to say that she wants a world where the best rise to the top and succeed, "regardless of bloodline," but uuuuuh this entire situation is about how the grandpa did not follow bloodline properly...? And all this also means that Caspar's bro can absolutely be removed from his position as heir, regardless of his bloodline...?
Caspar is like "ok, so you're saying nothing would change for me in your world, right?" L M A O
The way Edie presents the history of the Relics is so... "Relics were created by the hands of mankind" imo I wouldn't really count the Agarthans as particularly human anymore, and also this wasn't exactly something triumphant. "Seiros manipulated the people of the world and defeated the all-powerful King Nemesis" Nemesis was indeed tough, but you don't need to lick his boots quite that much. "Should the one leading the people of the world by someone with humanity or a creature that can merely masquerade as a human at will?" Given that you turn into an inhuman monster when you feel like it, which side of this binary do you fall on, Edie? I personally feel that Flayn, Seteth and Rhea have plenty of humanity even if they aren't human...
"The Immaculate One and her family"... dang, this phrasing is really...
This knowledge is passed down from emperor to emperor, huh. I know this kind of thing! Naruto taught me all about it! I remember that Uchiha tablet full of bullshit!
Byleth has been compared to Nemesis now. Hm.
Claude scene <3 He's upset about Judith dying, and that many more people will die following his orders. But of course he also talks himself up "do you have any idea how much of the Alliance adores me and believes in in me?" How much? Hm... about half? I remember SS and Lorenz leading the other half.
Anyway, Nader is also here.
Linhardt stupid take: "It's as if Crests were designed to be used only in times of war." How can you use them in peace-time? My dude...
There are three gates that connect Derdriu proper to its naval port. It looks like the naval port is a reinforced, walled area where the ships must dock before any goods or people can move into the city itself.
Killed Lysithea with Caspar, but I still get the prompt to spare her. I don't like these, it's too easy!
lol Claude keeps being upset that people are too stubborn to retreat even though he tells them to. My man, this is what happens when the Alliance adores you, it's called ride or die for a reason
The Almyran King fighting on the front lines... as expected.
Nader has been a soldier for 30-odd years. Incidentally, he retreats rather than outright being killed like Judith and Hilda... and Claude. It seems he has no dialogue for if Claude is killed first. Too bad!
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