#but if you have a fave person and they've been on stern and you haven't listened?
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I def agree that there were loads of great moments in both Stern interviews but like how can you not dislike that man Jen 😩 He’s literally one of the most dislikable, unpleasant pricks out there. He’s a raging homophobe, a notorious anti-black racist and he has degraded and humiliated women for decades. I’m not coming @ you by the way just wondering what is there to like about this dude.
So this reads like someone who hasn't listened to his shows in the last 10-15 years or so, but for me, it comes down to I love the parts I love, and I gtfo for the parts I don't, I'm an adult like that, lulz. I started listening to him after he had already mellowed out quite a bit, I know the crazy shock-jock early years would have been unlistenable to me (and he has gone on record to say unlistenable to him as well), but the period when I tuned in every day as part of my commute and work life? Yeah, I enjoyed it--and when I didn't love it (my god, do I hate most of his staff and regular callers), I just switched over to something else. The stuff I like about the dude? He's funny, smart, neurotic, a world-class interviewer, in love/borderline obsessed with his wife, a good dad to this three daughters, a ride-or-die for his black co-host (her cancer battle, what he went through to help her, my god, it's weep-worthy), a good ache for any "missing NYC vibes." It's a shame that his network (team??) makes it so hard and/or expensive to just cherrypick what you want to hear from his shows, and he HAS dialed down how much he works by a lot, but I would pay cash money to hear the old news hour, the interviews, the shootin' the shit with Robin about his weekend (and I would skip just about everything else, but that would still be about 3 hours a day back in the day). I've listened to him in full, in context, off and on for years, so maybe I'm too compromised for people who are easily offended, but I find quite a lot to like about him, sorrrrrry! (Also, hot take alert, I would reckon there are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more women in the one direction fandom who have actively shit on women, humiliated them, than he has)
#howard stern#he's changed and evolved over the years#i was watching only murders in the building with my mom last week#and there was a meta stern moment#where michael rapaport#who was fucking annoying irl on the stern show#bitched in the fictional show about how much better it was in the old days#before stern was in therapy and dot dot dot (the knee-jerk character you describe in your ask)#and there are a lot of people who actually MISS that old persona#like rapaport clearly does#but he's better for leaving that person behind#and he knows it#he's an actual human being who's pretty old now#who isn't clinging to the box he used to live in or the person he used to be#and he's no saint or any of that shit#but there are so many people who just cling to this 1980s/1990s version of him#and it's so obvious that they aren't listening to anything he's done currently#don't get me wrong--there's still a trace of those days#but if you have a fave person and they've been on stern and you haven't listened?#you're missin' out#i love his interviews so much#but my god do i miss robin's news hour (my mom still has the app so i was catching up last week)#and i miss him just talking about his chess and his painting and his organizing and his peloton obsession#and beth dealing with him#and their love for animals#god all of it#but at the end of the day#yeah i can listen to someone who's problematic and tune into the parts i like and tune out to the parts i don't
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