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I don't know why people are blaming Ford for entering into an abusive relationship with Bill. Just because Ford ignored the warnings left in the cave to not summon Bill? His research hit a dead end, he was desperate and Bill supposedly had the answers. Ford clearly was not thinking straight when he decided to summon him. If the research of your life hit a dead end and you are desperate, would you not ignore the warning of an ancient civilization that might be wrong about this being with answers just because he was more intelligent than them? Ford probably thought he could handle Bill and that the warnings were simply exaggerations and that Bill had been misinterpreted, misunderstood by a more primitive culture because of his knowledge.
Right?
Not only is it disgusting to blame the VICTIM instead of the abuser, desperate people do desperate things.
Ford literally thought he was summoning demon google.
Ford isn't really given any context for the warnings. It's literally just vague cave paintings on a wall.
#gravity falls#the use of 'primitive' in this context kinda of makes me cringe#but i'm not indigenous so if any who are wanna weigh in#ford pines#stanford pines#grunkle ford#abuse tw#victim blaming tw#filthy ford apologist squad#ford defense squad#ford protection squad#bill cipher#anon#answers
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Copypasta'd my reply to that comment on this post bc I wanna keep it here for reasons Not to rant on your comment but......... I'm gonna. People always interpret the hypothetical "you wouldn't have been born" as if it were equivalent to dying NOW, *after* you've become a whole thinking feeling person with loved ones who would be sad if you were gone, or whom you would also be "k1lling" by "pushing the button". But like, Not Having Existed wouldn't be painful or a loss, the crux of that thought is PRECISELY non-existence. It wouldn't BE anything lmaooooo
The magic button of 'erase colonialism from History' we're talking about would alter the whole entire world in ways we can't fully imagine by reversing actual genocide. Millions of people and hundreds, maybe thousands of cultures would presumably be restored. It's so myopic and absurd to ask your interlocutor to weigh THAT against any one life- ESPECIALLY if said life is actively being made shittier by colonialism (both aftershocks of its OG form and its current, ongoing manifestation in shit like how The Economy and Industry and Politics™ function TO THIS DAY).
I get that it's a lil upsetting to think about, but NO actually, I like my life and love my people but me existing now is NOT "worth" the unimaginable pain and loss that set up the circumstances into which I was born. The fact that colonialism happened is actually categorically hideous. That nice stuff like people with ''''''mixed heritage''''''* who are personally pleasant, and unique cultural expressions like crafts and delicious food and whatnot that are very dear to the people who grew up w/ them ALSO happened in the wake of colonialism isn't a 'gotcha'. I've been hearing people throw this enormously dumb idea around as if it were a brilliant gotcha since childhood & I'm TIRED of hearing it.
*(read: who inherited a warped version of the culture of their coloniser ancestors alongside the few scraps that are left from their indigenous ancestors' culture which was systematically erased by the former, also a ton of the early '''mixing''' was like... rape)
Like I'm trying to experience & cause as much joy as I can now that I've landed in this wretched-ass existence, but the aspects of my life that relate to colonialism are all shitty, painful things. Throwing that in my face isn't the great argument they think it is.
Also I Have The Depression™. Or have been depressed. Or something (I don't have a great grasp of what my mental health status is bc I've had very limited access 2 mental healthcare. Bc I live in an economy still impacted by the effects of colonialism where seeking that out is Pretty Hard). In my case THAT means I've fantasised about vanishing or popping out of existence w/o the hassle of seeking out physical d3ath SO MANY TIMES. This imaginary "undo colonialism and disappear" button would be extremely welcome in so many ways than one to others like me...........
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