#but i believe it is just the representation of sakura's pov being left behind by every adult in his life
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I have seen a wild amount of people complaining about the context of Wind Breaker and how "unrealistic" it is for the characters to go to school but without any teachers or adults being shown or protecting them and... First of all, realism is not what you're going to find reading a Shonen and if you want a full-on high school experience, read another manga. It is very common to skip those details as a writer because they are not interesting in the slightest and they have confirmed multiple times that all of their grades are awful, so you won't get a silly little arc about them studying, because they directly don't. To say it is "unrealistic" is to ask for boring, pointless, plotless occurrences in a Shonen manga about fighting. Are people even hearing themselves when they complain?
But it's not only from a writer's perspective skipping what's unimportant that justifies the lack of teachers and responsible adults, but the plot itself. At first, it is confusing, but I think you only have to look a bit deeper into the cultural context of the story to understand why there aren't teachers/adults shown.
I'm around chapter 100, so I am not sure this gets explained further in the manga, but my theory as to why they behave this way is pretty simple, honestly: They are poor and in ruins, and adults with the power to change things do not care about them. Easy as that.
Whether it is real or just an exaggeration of what's actually going on, it has been shown countless times (especially in Umemiya's backstory, explaining directly how authorities don't care about the kids or anybody, really) that the whole city is made for outcasts and left to rot by the government. It is not some apocalyptic bullshit, it is stuff that happens every goddamn day in real life. They go to school but they aren't shown studying and the place itself is a mess. We only see Umemiya running the school but it is confirmed that there's staff and somebody grading them somehow, despite never being shown studying or doing anything other than patrolling. But they have shown us that the city used to be extremely problematic and chaotic and only recently have things started to change for the better. Most villains and even main characters are orphans and live on their own. There's a whole arc about a group of kids being left to rot in poverty without any means to study or live a normal life. Even our main character lives on his own in a horrendous apartment. Like--
I believe you have to be blind to not see that, if this isn't just literally some people turning their backs against poor kids in a place in ruins, it is at least an exaggeration of these things happening in real life. Because they could have classes and teachers and everything you want in the manga to make it more realistic, but this is, after all, from the perspective of teenagers who can't rely on anybody but themselves. There's only so much a teacher can do, and we know most of them do nothing for these kids. So if it is "unrealistic" perhaps you aren't aware of what damn hyperboles and metaphors are, but this is from the students' points of view, and when you live in a place like this, it doesn't matter how many teachers there are or police, because they won't help. So they are directly erased from the story to be replaced with Sakura's point of view of Umemiya running the whole place.
So I think that instead of looking for realistic interpretations of their high school experience, perhaps you should empathize a little with the actual real high school experiences of people like them.
#'they are fighting and the police doesn't do anythin-' the police never gives a fuck the police has never given a single fuck#i have seen people get killed in my street and robbed and raped every day and the police have never done a thing please grow up#'where are the teachers!' well maybe they do try to teach but when the kids aren't being taught how to live they don't give a single fuck#perhaps that is why they follow only umemiya have you perhaps considered that#you could also say the author skips these things to not make it boring or idkk maybe the city itself funds these kids#but i believe it is just the representation of sakura's pov being left behind by every adult in his life#i am not in these kids' place luckily but i also don't live in the best district and it IS dangerous to walk around on my own#and police or adults have never done a single thing to fix that#so i understand where the story is coming from and why the school in this manga is this way#anywayyyy people are soo boring perhaps the manga only wants to tell you the interesting stuff#if they talked about them trying to graduate THAT would be unrealistic bc they don't care and also you'd be BORED#people learn how to read between the lines i am begging you oh lord#wind breaker#wind breaker (satoru nii)
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I was inspired to ask you this question because of the ccs content you've been reblogging (love that show btw). So as far as I know Japan is not a very gay friendly country, certainly not as friendly as some people believe. The MalexMale and FemalexFemale content is marketed to specific groups and usually shows them in ways that are kind of demeaning, like having one of the males being touched against his will (like full blown raped in some cases) by his future lover. (to be continued)
So my question is, how come Sailor Moon and Card Captor Sakura were able to get away with showing Gay couples in their shows (and well developed, healthy gay couples at that) back in the 90s? It was censored in America but Japan didnāt seem to have a problem with it, and as far as I know both shows were mainstream shows in Japan and marketed to large groups, not like Yuri and Yaoi normally are. Is it just cause they were side characters? Any chance you know the answer to this question?
uhhhh tbh I donāt know if there is a right answer to thisā¦Iām unsure if Iām the one who can provide one at least.Ā
Iām not that well versed in this kind of stuff. And Iāll be honest, Iām little confused by this askā¦Iāll answer it as best as I can. But, Iām just gonna tell you right off the bat that Ā this is 100% my speculation. Donāt take this as a serious answer :xĀ
With the way this kind of question is wordedā¦it sounds like youāre comparing the same sex couples in SM and CCS to yaoi and yuri genres? And if thatās the caseā¦wellā¦your answer is right thereā¦ youāre basically comparing magical girl anime to pornographyā¦.
I mean, donāt get me wrong. Japan is definitely not an LGBT friendly place. But, the adult industry is all about fantasizing to the point of fetish-sizing. It is purposely formulaic. Why? Because a kink is marginally easier to sell than a person. And this is something that can be applied to international adult markets. Ever notice how there are several categories on porn sites, but no real variety within the categoryās content? Ā Yeah thatās no coincidence. Adult entertainment is not about reinventing the wheel, they follow the patterns that are known to work.
Yaoi and Yuri definitely are applied this notion. I think the fact that itās animanga further allows readers to detach it from reality. Like in the case with the yaoi genre, a huge premise behind itās creation is āforbidden romanceā and its after effects. Caste systems, falling in āloveā with someone who you canāt have, power dynamics, the whole āiām not gay but you did this one thing to me and now i canāt forget how incredible it made me feel and so iām confused until this story reaches a conclusionāāall of this and more get cranked out to the extreme because it sells this romanticized POV of Taboo.Ā
Itās kind of a no brainer to see how incredibly inaccurate these genres are at depicting actual same sex relationships. But the whole point of the genre isā¦well not to. Iām not saying that itās a good thing or anything. (I think a major issue within the adult industry and pornographic material is how unregulated it is in favor of it turning out a profit. Studies have show that people wind up believing what porn shows because of their lack of sex educationā¦but adult industries donāt feel pressured to cared about that reallyā¦which does have a negative impactā¦lol i wrote a paper about this once).
I know bc of the nature of the Internet and stuff, Yaoi/Yuri is often lumped together with regular mlm and wlw love stories. Yes, youāll find some sense of similarities on how sexual these stories can be. But I think there there is a major difference in yaoi vs shonen ai or yuri vs shoujo ai. And that difference boils down what kind of story the author wants to tell. And what kind of impression the author wants to leave in their readerās minds.Ā
Which Iāll transition to SM and CCS now. These series had a specific story in mind, and in order to tell that story; the author(s) made conscious decisions to have characters and couples to display it. I donāt think that theyĀ āgot awayā with anything. In the case with these two shows, in order to display themes and other elements of their fictional verse, they created gay characters to illustrate them in ways the other cast members couldnāt. Ā The gay and lesbian characters/moments werenāt just added in without consideration. They were an integral part to the plot. They had purpose. And with that in mind, they were created. Ā The reason why they are good and healthy depictions of relationships is because of the actual format of the genre. These are magical girl stories. The priority is telling a good story. I donāt think they were just token characters, they were woven into the plot extremely well. And if you have a well written character, thatās gonna have a way better impact than a ill written one.Ā
There was a lot of effort and care put into both of these series. Thatās why they left a strong impact thatās still prevalent today. I donāt know too much about Japanese culture and stuff. Under my assumption, I donāt think they are focused on LGBT representation. It was the 90ā²s. It was rare to find anyone that pushed for proper representation right, hell itās still rare in present day! Ā But even if itās not a primary acceptance for the culture as a whole, for one reason or another, it was impertinent Ā to the authors. Thatās why they made them, thatās why they were weaved into the story. Japan is known for its subtlety. These characters were homosexual, but it was quiet. No one was blunt about it at least. These could be factors of why it was broadcasted as widely as it was. idk for sure, but my gut does tell me that it was a Ā positive if anyone did oppose of it.Ā
Like, with SM, I couldnāt tell you what Takeuchi had in mind while conceiving the storyā¦If Iām not mistaken. I believed she made the first ark and was pretty okay with it. But when she gained popularity she was asked to create more, and thus made four more SM series. If the publishing company is asking her to continue her storyā¦chances are theyāre gonna let her draw/write what she wants. SM was already a running series by the time Haruka and Michiru came about. That whole ark was specifically about the talismans they held. Takeuchi might have had her own reasons for writing a romance between them, but I personally donāt know what they are. If thatās what she wanted though, thatās what she was gonna do. If the story is good enough to pull in sales and readers, then itās okay. I canāt remember if there was a big uproar about it. I donāt think there was at least.Ā
CCS is a little different seeing as it was created by CLAMP and a different publisher. CLAMP in of itself have always been kinda progressive. I mean, within this series aloneā¦one of the big themes is love and memory. Specifically how those two things are so different person to person. I know that tumblr and other social media likes to comment about the gay couples in the show (I donāt blame them lol), but sometimes itās easy to forget some of theā¦not so easy to accept romances in the show. There were a lot of romantic feelings between students and teachers. Most of them having a large age difference between them. There were some things that crossed over family lines too. Their push for risky romance, did not stop at just same-sex couples. It was all across the board. CLAMP has always been one of those authors teams that pushed āthere are many versions of love and just bc you donāt like it doesnāt mean it shouldnāt existā mindset. Even if people didnāt agree with the message, it didnāt stop or deter them from their success. And againā¦I feel like if I was a publisherā¦and I had a material for long running successā¦Iād take it lol. CCS had a lot of promise.Ā
Hell, look at YO/I rn. The author was always straightforward about Victor and Yuuri being a couple. And they got it through to completion. Why? Because the story was good enough to win people over. I know that sounds like a simple answer to such a complicated issue (itās really hard getting variety and representation in animanga) but if the team believes in a project, and there is promise in its creationā¦there is history of studios caving in and allowing it to get created. And this isnāt just for gay love stories. It goes for a bunch of different thingsā¦like, look up how Cowboy Bebopās concept got created! It makes me laugh every time i think about it XD That is like a prime example of someone getting to make what they want and the result being outstanding. all bc the publisher didnāt care so long as they got one thing correct.
BUT I donāt know for sure. Itās not like Iām able to find direct interviews with the authors of SM and CCS. I donāt know what they were actually thinking when creating their stories. Or why they specifically designed the characters the way they did.Ā
But the same sex couples in these series will almost always be better than say other stories in the yaoi/yuri genres. And thatās just simply due to writing. The authors made characters to fit within their worlds. They didnāt just create characters that had slight variations of the same exaggerated animanga tropes.Ā
Itās kinda sad when I think about it. mlm stories are being catered to the female gaze while wlw stories are being created for menā¦.why? bc according to publisher, those are the demographics that will purchase these worksā¦I donāt think thatās necessarily true. I think that a lot of people have their preferences and typesābut no one is gonna reject a truly good story! lol, even if there are gems within the same sex genres, make so mistake. They can be really hard to find.
Iām not Japanese. Hell Iām Indian-American. Thatās like the double opposite of Japanese LOL. For SM and CCS, I donāt know what are the priorities for these publishing studios were. Iām just guessing that itās success/numbers and thus they allowed for the story to take flow naturally. I donāt know for sure though. I could be completely wrong here. Iād urge you to try and find the answer elsewhere, Iām actually not like a super-fan about these kinds of shows :x hell I donāt really read yaoi or yuri anymoreā¦
but I hope this at least created some kind of stepping stone for you to seek out the proper answer to your question. ^^ā sorry I wasnāt more help.Ā
#Anonymous#ask#long post#cyclone nonsense#this post took me like way too long to answer#and in the end i didn't even answer it....#I'm not good at this#:x#i hope this sparks your own thoughts and ideas about this subject though#best of luck in finding the real answer lol
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