#but as atla canon has continued post-show i'm a post-show azula redemption proponent
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zuko's redemption arc is very good, it is beloved for a reason, but it's also poisoned discussion on redemptions in fandom in such an annoying and exhausting way. people always talk about the idea of "deserving" when it comes to redemption and at least some of this feels like it stems from atla depicting zuko as having originally been a kindhearted child who got corrupted into bad behaviour by abuse. therefore he "deserved" to get redeemed because he was always a good person deep down.
there is obviously nothing wrong with this being the way zuko's character is written but because it's the most beloved redemption arc in all of fandom now everyone thinks every character with a redemption arc has to have secretly been a good person all along. as though arcs about characters seeking redemption aren't actually about exploring people changing, they're just about confirming their inherently good nature. i think this is a very shallow way to think about human beings and a very boring way to write fictional characters!!!
the question of whether it's a good idea to give a character a redemption arc shouldn't be about whether they "deserve" it. the whole point of redemption is that the character starts out a bad person at the beginning of the arc, and we explore what it takes for them to change. it's bizarre that so many people in fandom have taken the stance that people don't really change, they're either bad or they're not, and redemption arcs are only for exposing the goodness that was already inside people.
the question of whether it's a good idea to give a character a redemption arc should be about whether it's the most compelling direction for that character and whether it aligns with the themes of the story. that's all. it's not a question of morality as if the characters are real people, it's a question of what the story is about and is trying to communicate. sometimes this means it would be mean spirited and ill fitting with the themes not to give a character a redemption arc. sometimes it means a character who has yet to show any modicum of remorse or kindheartedness will receive a redemption arc, because the story is interested in how that person could possibly change. and sometimes it means a character who does show signs of goodness may never get to realise that, and will never change their ways. it depends what the story is trying to say and what makes for the most interesting and fitting character journey for that story. because the character is not real and is first and foremost a tool to communicate that story.
#blahs#atla#been reading a lot of azula redemption arc discourse#and getting annoyed by 'but azula's so much worse of a person than zuko and doesn't show any remorse so she can't be redeemed'#so??? is it not even MORE interesting to explore how a person like azula would change???#i think azula's role in atla the show is good and the tragedy of her character was fitting for their depiction of abuse#but as atla canon has continued post-show i'm a post-show azula redemption proponent#bc i just think it's the most interesting direction of travel for her character#spinning the wheels on her being evil a la smoke and shadow just isn't saying anything more meaningful than her in-show fate#whereas asking how this child who is even more damaged and corrupted by ozai than zuko could possibly change?#that's more interesting! and fitting for atla's philosophy that everyone deserves to be given compassion and a chance#i don't need azula to have shown remorse to 'deserve' that arc. she's not a real person. it's not about 'deserving'
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