#but also it would be really funny for a mech to go 'thats a stupid ass plan“in the most blunt way
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I dont know whats better a mecha thats merely an emotionless intrument or one that gets to have a consciousness/ai/personality?
#personally i feel like a mecha having personality or consciousness adds a bit more to the conflict#specially from a moral and ethic standpoint#but also it would be really funny for a mech to go 'thats a stupid ass plan“in the most blunt way#mechverse#brain storms
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OK, BEFORE I SAY ANTHING, UPDAT3 ON HE DEALINE I SET!!! I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THIS THING DONE BY TH WND OF THE MONTH BWCAUSE IM SO LOCKED IN MEANING THAT APRIL I CAN PROBALY START WRITING THIS
Also, THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT SILLY RAMBLIN!!!! THATS SO INTERSTING AND IM HMGNKENWISKA
Into meat and bones! Skin and bones if you will! (I'm not funny)
I AM LIVING FOR BRIAN BEING HAMGED HANG MAN STYLE AS A PUNISHMENT!!!! THATS SO MUCH MORE AGHAGAHGAHA THAN WHAT I WAS THINKING. AND THEN BEING TIED TO A TREE AGAIN. GRRRR
Carmilla would absolutely sympathize. I'm thinking she wouldn't know most of his story except from whispers maybe? Like she went into that town a few day after they hung him up and there's loads of gossip and she's like "Ohhhh". Maybe she deliberately tries to find Brian and save him, only to discover he's dead and her sympathy gets to her?
HQVING TO ASK AURORA TO TAKE CARE OF HIMM... that could cause so much confliction in Aurora whe he locks Carmilla up... I'm living for it....
OK, SO LIKE, YOURE SERIOUSLY IN MY HEAD!!! ILL TALK ABOUT MORE LATER ON THEPOST BUT I HAD A WHOLE IDEA ABOUT HOW TIM AND BERTIE COULD HAVE A WAR PAST WITH LYF!!!!
ALSO, IN THE HEART- AND JONNY IS LIKE "The thing I finally gained... I wont lose it" AND TRUES TO STUMBLE AWAY AND IS AVED BY MR. NOT A SERVANT BUT IS KINDA ONE NOW!!!
So I was walking the field in gym earlier and listening to the Mechs while writing, and I came up with two insanely good ideas, in my opinion
Jonny claims to own the castle, and every time he does, everyone (including Aurora) yells at him that he just lives in it ("Your humble castle owner" "MF YOU JUST LIVE IN IT" *angry creaks from Aurora*)
AND ALSO, HERES THE IDEA FROM EARLIER... I REALLY LIKE IT. SO LIKE, what if Tim and Bertie fought in the war that dehomed Lyf and fucking exploded both sides because they just did not care if either side lived. And after, the two boys found Lyf as the only survivor and said, "Damn, you're strong," and took him with. So they all got out of there (Tim and Bertie were also war criminals after that, so they gotta go) and looked around till they found the castle and Jonny. Lyf is like super thankful for them sparing him, but kinda angry that they, yknow, blew up literally everyone else. This could also really tie well with the whole dynamic as Lumiere and Clocksworth, I think? (it's even funnier if we go with the stupid thing Lumiere does when he kisses Clockworth when he gets excited those few times)
I want to acknowledge that this started as a short tumblr post and is now the longest thread I've even laid eyes on, and I'm not joking
Gtg for now, hope you enjoy
Beauty and the Beast, but it's the Mechanisms.
Jonny must be the beast because feral Jonny and the whole heart thing... prove me wrong.
Tim or Brian is Belle.
Rest of the Mechs are the servants in the Beast's house. With an exception for Marius as Gaston cause I can totally fucking see it. He would suck at it though because it's Marius. And also, short Marius HC.
This is probably not new. But it's been brewing in my head for a good few months, ever since I put my Mechs OC in the iconic Belle dress.
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TPN Vol 13 (and some earlier volumes) Thoughts
I honestly thought there’d be more sort of... domestic fun times in the shelter with the dadsTM but Ig not, okay byeeee- (i wish i could be sad, come on brain)
I also just... they HAD to throw in that romantic sub...element before he died?? really? was that necessary? ugh. I felt like they could have done more of these flashes to the past earlier and then just reminded us of them here but... oh well.
Also Emma’s dreams give her therapy. I’m not sure if TPN is saying that these sort of visions are actually some sort of supernatural connection but I find the idea funny that Emma gives herself therapy in her dreams and just SENSES the timing of the explosion (again, weird “placing scenes inbetween other things that already happened”) - that was intense, but I just... I’m not huge on these outright CONVERSATIONS. I think for Ray’s hallucination it worked better because (and the german dub goes in on this even more) Norman just says things (even if a bit different) that were already said before, so it’s more of a.... coming together I guess.
That also kind of bothered me about the scene when Emma is passed out in GP, it just felt a little “??”, thanks Emma for giving yourself a pep talk by imagining all of that. Ik she’s close to death BUT HOW DID SHE KNOW HOW PEOPLE DIED THAT SHE NEVER MET.
We kind of joked that since the eye necklace gives Emma that one experience on the water, it might be what triggers these things? but then again, it also happens earlier so probably not-
but it’s a fun little inside joke, “ah, there the eye goes again”.
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STUPID KIDS- I mean yes let the kids be stupid sometimes but GOD WHY NOW, GO BACK- though ig if they had the mech owls, they might have easily found them again anyway. who knows.
How convenient that the randoms always died.
BUT injuries actually persist and are dealt with instead of just time-skipping to when the person in question is okay again :) Emma’s stab had no weight, it was only there for Yugo’s arc and was not dealt with satisfyingly for me hh...
I didn’t talk about this I think because I didn’t note down things for that volume, but hh idk, she seemed PERFECTLY FINE when she got up again, which was hard for me to believe... and afterwards, we couldn’t have gotten one or a few chapter(s) showing the things Emma recaps happened while she was out? We couldn’t have gotten some angsty panels with unconscious Emma and people coming to her side? come on :(
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please get Andrew off my screen pls end my suffering, i do not want to LOOK AT THIS.
but also. goddamn. shounen manga, huh-
LIKE THIS IS EPIC BUT ALSO I DO NOT WANT TO SEE IT.
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HAHAHA I THOUGHT THE ANIME CAME UP WITH THIS CONVENIENT DEMON NOM dsihsds, the manga executed it better (i will never get over how the anime cast just sits there like :o at the first time seeing a human being eaten but hey) but it’s still... very convenient oml.
Ray just wants to be burdened. the man wants to use his resolve to kill. let him.
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Minerva time - obviously the secrecy is kinda ruined by the anime and by spoilers, but... idk... do people actually not find obscuring people... sus? I mean I GUESS the first time we saw the person with the hood, they also didn’t show his face SO I SUPPOSE it’s not completely unlikely that it’s just continuing to do that - but why would you not show it if it was actually James? He already had a face reveal. And the super harsh shadows on only him just look kind of awkward and hhh I DON’T KNOW-
As much as I like this scene as their introduction and I’m glad we get to see the mass production farm (the hug killed me), I also would have preferred them to omit him from it or just not show it NOW (they love their insert-scenes-in-hindsight stick way too much anyway) to commit to the “secrecy” approach for the audience. But maybe I just don’t get it. And I do like the scene so I’ll shut up and take it.
I will say... Barbara eating demon meat reveal in the anime... i liked that more tbh. Because we realize it with Emma and Ray and the way it frames the meat and her hate talk, it’s just MWAH-
Though they also have a lot more personality in the manga which I feel wouldn’t have hurt their anime counterparts.
I still pledge for a two year age-up for this story iduskhjds, it wouldn’t have hurt in general but also jsut because... imagining a 13 y/o dramatically pulling his hood off on a balcony in front of a crowd is just... not as epic to me as it’s supposed to be I think fuishdjs
And as much as the execution of the Norman reveal in the anime deserves to be dunked on and as awkward as the “walking up without saying anything” is... at least being in a demon community was a good reason to actually, yknow OBSCURE their faces and hide them naturally. I didn’t really think about this before BUT that actually makes a lot of sense and I like that more than the harsh shadow treatment.
I also always thought that the “Minerva” cover was supposed to make them come to him, which I GUESS it did, but he had his messages anyway (the way I thought it went was that he had no way to contact them, so he took that cover so they’d come find him eventually and stuff) and ALSO sent people out to find them so I guess it wasn’t the only reason - I suppose it’s also for other children/humans who know Minerva. I actually really like this element, I think it’s neat. I just thought it wouldn’t be this.... in your face and more sort of... not showing him at all until they meet him.
I also hope he actually told the squad his name is James, he’s just like a completely different person, actually sadssda.
I just find it funny to think about Lucas hearing some young soft-spoken boy, maybe barely being grazed by puperty voice and going, “yup, thats the same person as I heard on the phone with Emma :)” just. how. like if he didn’t think so I would have assumed he’d mentioned it.
Also another case of “we didn’t hint this, we didn’t show this off to the side in a panel (or tori is blind), BUT IT HAPPENED GUYS I SWEAR. HE ALSO GAVE IT TO OLIVER I SWEAR!!!!-”
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I didn’t know about the mech owls. interesting.
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I find Jin and Hayato’s reactions to the group interesting. the group kind of sees all the GF escapees as holy or also as their rescuers sth because like, if they hadn't escaped, none of them would be free, etc. Which now that I think about it, is... technically not true ig since Norman could have escaped Lambda even without the GF escape succeeding so. HM. And ig since they bowed to them, I think maybe it's jsut "wow you escaped on your own, you're so cool"? I just wonder if they kind of began thinking that way on their own or if Minerva's protecc squad/Minerva kind of gave them reason to behave that way by talking about the GF escape or something... probably they just did it on their own but I'm just rambling.
or maybe they’re just impressed they aren’t incompetent.
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idk if im forgetting anything but yee, here we go. I’m just being a judgy prick, I’m enjoying it (mostly bc our read is just chaotic).
#tpn#tpn manga#tpn manga vol 13#tpn vol 13#tori talks#tori has opinions#tpn spoilers#tpn manga spoilers#ynn spoilers
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im getting angry so heres my love, death and robots episode ranking list ( best to worst )
1) helping hand, holy shit this one gave me so much anxiety and i got attached to the character so fast, she gave up so much just to survive.
2) the witness, really huge horny people territory, nudity, gore all of that stuff but a great plot twist at the end. also an amazing art style
3) lucky 13. this one made me cry like a baby if im honest, the animation and plot and characters and everything are so amazing and great, really great all together
4) sonnies edge! another one with amazing characters and animation. cool story as well, and you all know im a sucker for some lesbians. the end was also so amazing, sad and happy and scary all at the same time.
5) three robots! an amazing break from the dark nature of the rest of the show. just a few happy go lucky robots wandering a post-apocalyptic world and discovering new things. also, love the cats.
6)suits! god the animation in this one is so awesome, also love the kinda “ farmers gotta defend against aliens “ trope that they have going on. made me sad and happy, really satisfying end. im also just biased because,,, cool ass mechs
7) good hunting. also amazing, love the whole steampunk thing thats going on, tragic and a happy ending at the same time art style reminds me so much of something, i just cant place it at all.
8) beyond the aquila rift, super fucking scary, the animation is on point, also really horny at times, but that slight plot twist was really good! scary spider lady is a no from me tho, like, ew,,
9) sucker of souls!, really awesome art, kinda dingy looking because well, theyre in a cave, also dark, both in plot and it lighting, awesome tho! im so in love with some of the characters tbh
10)blindspot, oooh man this one is so cool! im a sucker for robots and moving action scenes, also made some of the deaths seem sad, but also funny, also amazing art style! reminds me of some 90s cartoons, really loveable characters.
11) the secret war, i was half asleep thru this entire one so i cant really give a good thing to say about it, animation and shit looked super good tho, awesome looking characters and plot.
12) fish night, really awesome animation style, cool plot too, kinda boring tho?? like, the colors and everything are amazing in this one, but all together kinda bland.
13) the dump! really cool art style, love the trash dog, love th character design, did not enjoy seeing some homeless man dick. that all i gotta say.
14) ice age. not a fan, the live action threw me off tbh, cool concept of a huge society living in a fridge, i only laughed once at this comedy one, but it was also barely a giggle, just not very good, boring.
15) alternate histories. pretty cool, cheery art style, see Hitler die in many comedic ways. its cool tbh, i love the concept of a website that would do stupid shit like that, and seeing Hitler die over and over is always a plus.
16)when the yogurt took over, kinda wonky art style, almost like the concept of an artificial intelligence thats smarter than man itself, like the narration kinda style with it, also just kinda boring tho,,
17)shape shifters, kinda cool at times but i feel like werewolves are so overused at this point. do like the things that point to teh fact that they arent quite equal to humans tho. loving the werewolf gays as well, th realistic art style was getting old at this point as well,i just like the characters and environments.
18) zima blue, i dont have anything nice to say about this. ugly art, ugly story, ugly characters. just, no. made me very uncomfortable.
#love death and robots#love death & robots#love death + robots#yall should really watch this#helping hand#the witness#lucky 13#sonnies edge#three robots#suits#good hunting#beyond the aqulia rift#suckers of souls#blindspot#the secret war#fish night#the dump#ice age#alternate history#when the yogurt took over#shapeshifters#zima blue#wow#this took ages#roe talks too much
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@ask-dr-knockout
Oh hah hahh hah hah! Your luck may have kept you alive but you never bested him in any fight! No wrecker did don’t you ever forget that!
if we had been together nothing would have been any different! Breakdown had the advantage of a true partner not some halfwit knock off of a human! And I pitty it for joining the soiled ranks of such a miserable Lott of degenerates!
And at least he stuck with his own kind! It goes without saying but I’ll say it anway.
He was smarter then you in every way. he not only knew combat but was an effective medical professional who knew how to follow my orders. And might I add he played a convincing Ally or did you forget?
Your idiocy is remarkable to me… The fact you can stand there and actually call your human a true partner when she endangered you and all of your team at every turn with her insanity is quite impressively irresponsible.
And Bulkhead, for the record you never knew him… He never degrade himself by saying he was actually proud of the wreckers! You meant nothing to him you were just another job! In fact he laughed at you! We both pittied you! So hung up in revenge and calling yourself his rival. How presumptuous can you get!
How you were incapable of moving on from something that happened millennia ago! Newsflash Bulkhead it’s a war we all do terrible things to each other! And now Breakdown is gone because of that same war so hah hah guess you won by a flimsy technicality! Good job! Would you like a gold star?
And might I add, while we are on the subject of war crimes… I seem to remember the wreckers were QUITE the prime example of moral standing we’re they not? By the way you speak so proudly of them must have been real winners RIiiiGHT??? HAH!
In fact your little gang contributed quite handsomely to destroy lives at the cost for the “supposed greater good” then any self proclamaed Decepticon! Oh sorry… am I going to far? this must be uncomfortable for you to hear…
Must have been why it was so EASY for breakdown to infiltrate the Lott of you. You made the most ruthless feel right at home truly~ and ohhh my was Breakdown Ruthlessly effecient at his job. Tho I don’t need to tell you that.
Breakdown did the universe in general a favor when he neutralized the Lott of you half cocked morons! For Primus sake one of your mottos was that explosives solved every problem! Just ask Wheeljack your friend!
Oh I mean if he’s still around… If you can even call him friend, half the time? Who can blame you finding a human to replace him. I mean… I heard he would run off and sulk somewhere quite routinely because he couldn’t handle a little authority… If you ask me Miko is more mature! Hahahah and thats saying something! What about the wreckers infamous loyalty?
The only reason HE survived my late dear assistants culling was because he wasn’t around for the other “brothers” backs when they needed him hah! But by all means keep up the illusion he actually cared about any of you, ever! haha it wasn’t a Betrayal dear Bulkhead it was just another mission, that’s all it ever was. He just liked the rush and the firefights not any of you.
Oh yes he told me all about the lott of you tho! Most were so far off the deep end they didn’t even know how to properly work as a team they rather throw back high grade then come up with a proper strategy, and when they did it normally ended in extensive casualty! Boy I would have hated to be your lotta medic! Haha What a JOKE!
Sure, Bulkhead you are right … You are the Better Wrecker! Pha haha! whatever that truly stands for!
That’s why it was so easy for Breakdown to clean house of most of you when he was undercover honestly. You on the other hand just got DUMB LUCKY like you always seem to do. Not because of some misguided believe that Breakdown ever thought of you as a friend and decided to spare you.
You were nothing more then just another daily task to him! you never meant anything.
He just humored you because I thought it was funny and all he ever wanted to do was make me happy! And he did. I enjoyed watching you all burn!
It’s only a pitty he didn’t actually finish the JOB!
What… and audial full. Literally. Some love loss for real. He didn’t know much in the affairs of the Decepticons but he knew that Breakdown and Knock Out were more than he was with Jackie. Jackie represented the old him, and Miko represented the bad side of wreckers which Jackie instilled when he joined. But team Prime was about healing and Optimus was not above putting his people in their place. He had his own way of doing it, one that the Decepticons might have viewed as weak.
“You Decepticons sure love calling it luck when you get your afts beat by us ‘bots. It’s not all luck.” The red and blue duo might have seen an unfair amount of luck on Bulkhead’s behalf, but Bulk also added his skill set to complete a team that needed him on it. It was a small team that defeated a large army.
“Miko is a free spirit who knew there was excitement and adventure out in the world, she made sure to find it. She’s also a kid, Knock Out. One who hasn’t spent millions of years at war, I wouldn’t expect her to know all the ins and outs of it. She started to learn where she stood as time went on too. We all learn.”
“And I remembered Breakdown fighting beside me after I saved his aft, but he was simpleminded to just follow orders like a drone and fight someone who just saved his life. It was rude of him and stupid of Starscream. The idiot can’t even lead the Decepticons. Maybe he should have kept better tabs on all of those beneath him and Breakdown wouldn’t have been MECH bait.”
“And again, Miko has proven herself. Yes, she’s got us in danger, but she’s also made up for that. Slagging Hardshell, beating Starscream, getting Soundwave stuck in the shadowzone. She’s proven herself.”
“You’re right that I never knew Breakdown, surely not in the way you did. But he was my enemy. And you seem to forget that I left the wreckers to join team Prime. I knew I could be better than I was. It doesn’t mean that I didn’t like the wreckers. We had a duty in the war. Black ops, we did the stuff no one dared to do. Things that we knew we wouldn’t come back from, but we went anyway. Things that needed to be done. That’s what the wreckers were for. I am so glad for Breakdown,” he says sarcastically, “that he was able to see me as a job and nothing more. That whole desensitizing thing is what made you ‘cons loose the war. Sometimes revenge is what keeps our spirits up while fighting you wrong doers. Arcee has suffered a lot, I have suffered a lot, we’ve all lost people—don’t tell me you aren’t still fueled by some kind of revenge otherwise you wouldn’t have run your mouth as long as you have. You’re aiming that anger at me and I’m not even the one that offlined your beloved mecha. And it’s so good of you to mention the wreckers of committing war crimes when they were just a small fraction of the Autobots, whereas the Decepticons were full of all kinds of war crimes and cowardice.”
“The wreckers didn’t win the war either, I know that. But what’s this about winners? I seem to remember a certain turn coat who wanted to, what was it? ‘join the winning team’? All that sacrifice for nothing, really. You’re one of the biggest jokes of the Decepticons.”
As for the sport car’s roundabout way of saying how much the wreckers sucked and how bad they were compared to the Decepticons, he didn’t feel he needed to add to it. The wreckers were disbanded. Breakdown might have killed a lot of his teammates, but it wasn’t as if the wreckers didn’t put a dent in their enemy as well. Not all of their missions ended in failure, obviously. Bulkhead had made it until the end, as did Wheeljack, unlike some stunted Decepticon wrecker. It wasn’t even an Autobot that killed him, that at least he knew. It must have been an inside job, or MECH, or some human. Breakdown was a fool that got himself killed. Knock Out was a bad mech for not being there for his partner, maybe he should say that. … he’ll wait.
“You got him in dangerous situations just for a laugh? That’s very caring of you. Now who is burning and who is creating a new future for us to live in, huh? And by the way, Wheeljack is here to help rebuild, since you seemed so worried about his current status. He’s doing well. So is Miko. Really though, a large pity he didn’t finish the job. Because you know if Megatron got his way he was going to slaughter everyone who disagreed with him. And do you think that would have ended with the Autobots? Absolutely not. Someone as soft as Breakdown would have been the first to go.”
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