#but also he didn't cry in the movie iirc? which again: weird

[yellowvixen]

Initially I thought Knuckles and Jet could fit equally good as either Dagur or Snoutlout (I'm never getting used with his original name LOL), but then nah... Dagur is too much villainous in the start, like he is deliberately such a madman and had such a charisma being that villain and was so into being like that by his pure free will plus the way he was used to see the world and such that not Knuckles or Jet can fit, none of them were ever evil to begin with, one was misguided and the other is just not exactly good as well.

Knuckles being there was only guided by the aesthetic since you're considering Blaze to be Heather and then the two ✨guardians✨would be the siblings and it made sense to me for a time.

Meanwhile I just thought on Jet because of SatBK, as many point out Lamorak and Percival are siblings in the Arthurian Stories, that's it...

Buuuuuut y'know what, or rather who, have a personality that matches with Dagur? Infinite! Yes, I'm suggesting him, I feel like he has the vibes to take Dagur's role.

Then we get who would be Snoutlout and a further thought put Jet out, Initially they seemed equally perfect as them both have that dynamic, like they hype themselves and even boast like they were better than Sonic, but then the narrative is like "actually, Sonic is just as good as them... I think he's even better lol" if it even makes sense...

But then, let's be real, if there's something ridable in the universe, Jet is doing that years before than Sonic (Uh, he could be one of that group that raises the kind of dragon Heather rides, which I'm not sure of the name in the original dub)

Also, Snoutlout is kinda like Hiccup's first rival, just like Knuckles, so yeah, Knux is the better suíted.

I won't lie, I also think Vector could work as Snoutlout, his attitude + the soft and sensible side he gets in the series (and I think were carried to the second and third movies I need to rewatch) + the kid he have quite a quarrelsome big-lil bros dynamic with made Vec just pop around here

So in short, I invaded your Ask Box to suggest you to put Infinite in Dagur's role and that somehow I suggest Knuckles and Vector equally to Snoutlout's role

I thought about the twins too, but the fact one of them ends with Fishleg, who iirc is Tails, makes it harder

Yeah Jet never really wanted to KILL Sonic so he doesn't quite fit Dagur, and as you say Knuckles was just misguided and eventually becomes besties with Sonic - which is why I feel he works better as Snotlout too!

I DID actually think of Infinite as Dagur!! Even before Blaze as Heather (which might have been Chaz's idea I don't remember who said it first now lol). Cuz he definitely does fit how Dagur acts in riders/defenders but not really in rtte where he has a complete personality change and decides to be good sjfjdhfgd. But it could still work perhaps... there's enough reformed Infinite aus out there that it wouldn't be TOO weird lol. I'll see I'll see, again I'm not sticking with all the canon relationships so he doesn't have to be Blaze's brother if I do have him as Dagur.

Also I'm crying do you mean Mala? Jet as Mala, queen of the defenders of the wing? Who ends up married to Dagur?? Maybe you meant one of the others but I'm LOSING it at Jet/Infinite... that's so funny I've never considered that ship ever. Yeah why not Jet can be Mala LMAO

I don't think I would consider Vector as Snotlout (sorry) just cuz I wanted the main squad to be the classic characters y'know? And Shadow lol. That said, my original line up was Jet as Snotlout, Tails as Fishlegs, Knuckles as Tuffnut and Amy as Ruffnut. However. And I'm very sorry about this... I just don't like Jet. I don't have any real reasons, I just don't lmao so I didn't want him to be part of the main gang ^^;

I did have a vague thought of Vector being Gobber but idk... if he was he definitely wouldn't have the same dynamic with Aleena that Gobber and Stoick do lol!!

Someone mentioned Sticks as Tuffnut which is hilarious but they wouldn't have the same dynamic as Ruff and Tuff so idk. That's why I thought of just having 5 of them rather than 6 and not having twins at all (rip). Amy and Knuckles can still have the headbutting dynamic as they're both pretty hot headed, they don't need to be related to do that!

If we wanna talk about canon httyd relationships then Fishlegs also dates Heather in rtte, as well as Snotlout having a GIANT gay crush on Fishlegs in one ep, and the both of them fighting over Ruffnut in the 2nd movie. So like I'm not gonna be doing all that don't worry skfhfhsgs I'm picking and choosing the dynamics I like and want to keep.

[keitheaverage]

It's such bullshit when male characters aren't "allowed" to cry in their given series. Is it so bad that I wanna see a beautiful man get crushed under the slowly-building weight of his life's despair like a flying ice-cream truck? Let me see that sumbitch get in a cathartic blubber every now and then, will ya? Cowards...

[nyadversary]

look if you weren't there for this or whatever, what you need to know is that famous author of YA manic pixie dream girl schlock john green used to run a Popular Tumblr Blog. people rightfully considered him annoying because he'd write posts that were the equivalent of internet autofellatio about how revolutionary his book / the movie based on his book was because Has the girl ever kissed the boy in a teen romance? Ever? He doesn't think that this has ever happened ever. Groundbreaking stuff. also while it's since become more common for YA authors to engage with their fans directly via social media, it wasn't common at the time and it struck people as weird that this 30-something year old guy was doing the "how do you do, fellow kids?" routine with his own teenage fanbase.

i remember the exact post that had him crying about how he was being accused of pedophilia, and it wasn't an accusation of pedophilia. it was someone — iirc a teenage girl, who made this post on her own blog, not directed at him — who said she felt like the way john green was engaging with his fans on social media was strange, and said something along the lines of "he's like that one weird relative who hangs around trying to socialize at a teenager's pool party." he found the post, probably by searching his own name because he's insufferable, and replied like "i cannot BELIEVE i am being accused of molesting children" which was obviously not what she said, and imo a very clear example of him interpreting her post in the worst possible light to try and make himself look like a victim. this backfired because people, including me at the time, saw how obviously disingenuous this was. like, dude, i know you know how to read. you know that's not what she said. you knew that you commenting that on her post would cause her to suffer harassment from your fanbase. at worst that post was calling his behavior inappropriate, not saying that he's a predator, and he responded by making a Big Deal out of how he has Never Harmed A Child. he wasn't a victim, he tried to play victim and it backfired.

he got harassing asks because every big tumblr user does and because he was a particularly annoying presence on this website. it's not great but it wasn't unique to him, and he was in a good position to ignore that stuff given he was an adult with money and a career and the people clowning on him were random online teenagers. genuinely, if you are a successful adult in your 30s, i think kids half your age sending you anonymous "lol kys" asks should not be bothering you this fucking much that you still go around acting like it was a big deal Years And Years Later. i doubt it even bothered him all that much, i think he just victimized himself to try and drum up sympathy. why even acknowledge the harassment otherwise? why even post the asks?

also a significant portion of the actual criticism john green was facing (as opposed to the jokes people made at his expense) was regarding the stuff he wrote in his books. lemme remind everyone again that john green wrote a scene in the fault in our stars where the main couple, two teenage white gentiles, make out in the anne frank house and everybody claps. there are legitimate reasons people disliked him and his writing, beyond "he was being annoying on tumblr dot com," but he didn't want to address that criticism so instead he acted like he was being ganged up on by an internet mob accusing him of pedophilia (all because one random teenager called him a weirdo) and some of you were really stupid enough to fall for this.

well this person's either lying or stupid because this is also not what happened

[takashi0]

#I heard that comic book Sonic ''isn't allowed'' to cry and it made me so mad even tho I don't really go here#but also he didn't cry in the movie iirc? which again: weird#also when I was a kid watching Danny Phantom he never cried and it confused me sm then and it still does#boys need to be allowed to cry as much as anyone else does!!#teaching boys to emotionally constipate themselves and never express their grief leads to real-life problems!!

It's such bullshit when male characters aren't "allowed" to cry in their given series. Is it so bad that I wanna see a beautiful man get crushed under the slowly-building weight of his life's despair like a flying ice-cream truck? Let me see that sumbitch get in a cathartic blubber every now and then, will ya? Cowards...