#but Jason actually grew up in the poorest parts of the city
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Okay, so there are two Gotham born and raised bat fam members who are always being said to have grown up in the wrong neighborhoods and it drives me insane. And like, canon is a sandbox and all that and if you want to imagine something different for your goofy scenarios or fan fiction or whatever, that's cool. I just want to set the record straight for anyone who doesn't know the facts first. Know the rules before you break them and all that.
This is the official map of Gotham from No Man's Land, and the updated Post Flashpoint version with the Narrows.
Jason Todd
Always being put in the Narrows. The Narrows didn't exist when he was first introduced. It's a new neighborhood, speaking for canon. I get it. It's a lower income neighborhood with new relevance given that it's where Duke Thomas grew up.
Jason Todd is from Park Row, an area that once had the richest of the rich and the poorest of the poor but became known as Crime Alley after the Waynes died outside the Monarch Theater in Park Row and became one of the lowest income and highest crime rate areas of Gotham. Period. Jason Todd and Bruce Wayne meet in Park Row because Bruce parked his Batmobile there, near the theater, on the anniversary of his parents' deaths and Jason stole the tires. He made Bruce laugh on the anniversary of his parents' deaths near the spot where they died. It's very important to his character and his relationship with Bruce that he is from Park Row/Crime Alley.
(Batman 1940 #408)
Stephanie Brown
I see her dropped into Crime Alley or the Narrows a lot as well. I get it. Like Jason, her father is a criminal who did a lot of prison time and her mother has a drug addiction problem. Her similarities with Jason are likely why she was treated so poorly and why not double down and have her grow up in the same neighborhood as him? However, Jason’s father was, for lack of better word, goon for Harvey Dent (the Penguin post Flashpoint) and died in prison by Harvey (or didn't and became...you know what? Nevermind. I disregard all post Flashpoint background for Jason anyway), whereas Stephanie's father is the B-List criminal Cluemaster. She grew up in the Coventry, a suburban neighborhood within Gotham. Her mother worked at West Mercy Hospital. She might not have had a lot of money, but she was never living on the streets and stealing car parts to survive.
(Robin 1993 #60)
And yes, Stephanie was pregnant as a teen, and gave birth to a child she gave away for adoption. She got pregnant by a boyfriend who left her immediately before she started dating Tim, and Tim helped her out through her whole pregnancy. Including taking her to lamaze classes in disguise or disguising himself as a nurse in the hospital when she was in labor. She did not cheat on Tim.
You know what?
Tim Drake
Do I also like to pretend sometimes that the Drakes had the manor next to Wayne Manor for a long time and never sold it? Yes. I understand the appeal. But it's not a fact.
The boy actually never had a stable home his entire career as Robin, and that likely was not a recent trend. His parents had many properties within Gotham City, a penthouse in Robinson Park and so on and so forth. Tim grew up in boarding schools, went to public school while as Robin before being sent back to boarding school by Jack because he kept ditching class for Robin, and then back to public school before dropping out to find Bruce. His housing situation was never much better, as he never lived in one place with his parents for more than 6 months at time. Here, this goes into it better.
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Jason’s full song, had Tim not changed its course:
I killed a guy, and I liked it-
Eight drug lord heads in a basket~
I killed a guy, and I liked it-
Took over the local drug trade
Don’t sell to kids, don’t sell to poor, stick to my rules or die~
I killed a guy, and I liked it-
Don’t you dare abuse sex workers~
All the pimps and johns, all the gangs and mobs, better not cross the lines, I laid out
I killed a guy, and I liked it-
No firefights near civs~
Making shelter for kids, the community, I’ve got their back so they’ve got mine
I killed a guy, and I liked it-
All the working girls, my allies
Got a network, vast, got a network, wide, Crime Alley is all mine~
I killed a guy, and I liked it-
Can’t eradicate crime, so control it~
Jason, singing to the tune of I Kissed a Girl: I killed a guy, and I liked it- Dick, whispering: Should we call the exorcist? Tim, also singing: The taste of his cherry chapstick. Damian, appalled: Call the exorcist.
#forgive me I suck at rhyming#Jason is a literature & theater nerd his actual song would be much better written than this#but yeah something along these lines#the thing I love about Jason is that he’s not a glorified cop like the rest of the batfamily#like#sure the batfamily aren’t abusive to the community the way actual cops are#they go after the drug lords mob bosses and white collar crime#and after serial killers and such#not after the local kids stealing to survive#but Jason actually grew up in the poorest parts of the city#he knows what’s it like to actually live in the community in a way none of them do#he actually works closely WITH the community#and does actual harm reduction on organized crime#instead of trying to slap band-aids on the problem like the rest of the batfamily does#the best versions of Jason Todd are the ones where he works with the community#and isn’t just another vigilante like the rest of his family#most of the batfam are rich kids or weapons engineered from birth rescued by Batman#Jason Steph & Duke are the only actual gothamites there really#Duke lower middle class with a relatively normal life before shit hit the fan for him#Jason & Steph being proper poor with both drug addicted and criminal parents#Jason’s dad being a goon having to do crime to survive#Steph’s being an abusive minor supervillain#Steph doesn’t go Jason’s route but still works with the community more than the rest of the batfam if im not mistaken#Which i very well may be#aside from my hyperfixation with Jason Todd i don’t know a ton about the batfamily individuals in general#i love Jason having a completely different perspective from the rest of the batfam due to actually living in the poorest parts of it#knowing what it’s like to be a poor kid in a poor exploited family#and then knowing what it’s like to live on the streets as a child after both his parents died#the batfamily views Jason as violent & ruthless due to his willingness to kill#but in reality he has more compassion than all of them
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