#because apologist doesn't really cover how i feel about him KDSJFGDG like mans fucked up i'm not Denying that

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ok so i love (!!) the direction quackity is taking with his character with the whole corruption arc and sympathy for the devil stuff but

at the same time it sucks to see some people taking c!quackity’s current actions to reaffirm the idea that he was “always a villain." because when he was trying to do everything right and see the best in people and chase justice, he was still seen as a villain by a lot of the fandom just because he ran against wilbur and tommy in the elections.

i’ve seen plenty of art depicting him taking joy in this tubbo’s execution by schlatt’s side, plenty of people thinking he still wants to execute ranboo, plenty of posts saying that he never struggled (my personal favorite, someone said that dream was more justified than quackity in his wrongdoings because he suffered in prison, while the only thing quackity ever went through was not getting invited to kinoko kingdom. i will Scream).

and now that he is actively doing things in the wrong, there are so many takes saying that’s how he’s always been since the beginning of the smp. that’s confirmation bias at its finest, i suppose

like im not a c!quackity apologist anymore, but if i see enough bad takes, i might regress back into one out of Pure Spite /j

of course, there are bad takes for all of the dsmp characters out there. but the whole point of "sympathy for the devil" rests on the idea that there is sympathy to begin with. and quackity’s storytelling has been extremely effective in creating that sympathy! so it’s a bit odd to me when people ignore canon to stay unsympathetic for his character in particular

you put it very nicely !! it's very surprising how many people are making analysis posts about quackity's character without having properly seen his earlier vods, because if the first few quackity lore streams you've properly seen is the las nevadas series, your perception of his character is going to be way skewed in comparison, so those are very bold moves, haha c!quackity's always been a morally gray character: it's easy to view him as someone who craves power, because it's true! his aspirations have repeatedly been kicked down and he's been treated like an outsider all throughout l'manberg and even manberg when he was working under schlatt's administration, and his solution to this was to finally get enough power that he wouldn’t get stepped over anymore. but i think that's the beauty of how his character was written, because even considering how most of his arcs are centered around wanting to get authority & power, quackity never cast aside his empathy for the places & people he cared about (although this has recently become debatable, i won't get into it now):

he refused to leave manberg because of his attachment to the country

but his breaking point was schlatt taking down the white house because it was the last good memory he had with tommy and wilbur

he resigned from new l'manberg because tubbo's ideals didn't match what quackity thought was right for the nation - but even then, they did not part of bad terms, with quackity giving tubbo his last pep talk

he came to fight for new l'manberg again on doomsday despite knowing that their chances of victory were small: he chose l'manberg and its people over and over and over again and he still lost it all - to the man that quackity thinks is the root of all problems: dream.

i feel like that’s why there are as many people who sympathize with him as there are—or at least understand his state of mind, if not sympathize.

and on the other hand, for the people who don’t sympathize, it’s weird to see how they decide to have collective amnesia for every arc before the disc confrontation when analyzing him but like you said, there are always going to be bad takes in fandom slkjfgf