#bakudeku is this generation's narusasu

[usuratonluffy]

i once again stand by the fact that i'm hoping and Praying bkdk/dkbk shippers get the canon relationship ending that us sns' shippers never got, and i will eat my entire left hand if izuku and bakugou end the manga just "being best bros".

esp after the way they looked at each other. ain't no way two people who are just friends looking at each other like that as well as emphasizing deku's heartbeat?? nah. nah they gay, your honor. for one Another.

[pr1ncessasuke]

dee's ship list/rules!!!!

otp: <3 narusasu <3

2nd tp: <3 asheiji <3

notp: </3 sasusaku </3

things i do not ship: any ships involving a minor and adult, incest ships, zoophilia

ships i generally avoid: naruhina, saiino, narusasusaku, sasunaru, kataang, zukka, leopika, hisoillu, bakudeku, eremika, catradora, sulemio, pokeshipping, lawlight

my conduct:

ship and let ship. remember that fiction is NOT reality - i do not condone any problematic behaviors ships may have. i do not tolerate harassment or moral shaming over ships. i am against media censorship - people who make call out posts telling others to block someone over a ship will be blocked/muted. if fiction is starting to affect your reality, please seek help

sasusaku fans/narusasu antis will be immediately blocked. i don't want that content on my feed ever

if you ship something in my avoid list, i'm still happy to be mutuals as long as we have other common ships/interests. i may block otherwise

if a ship isn't listed i probably dgaf enough about it, or i don't know it/forgot about it

i may occasionally post anti stuff about the ships i dislike, but i usually keep that at a minimum to respect mutuals who may like them + i'd rather focus on what i love instead

i block freely to curate my space, and i encourage you to do the same, no hard feelings. please remember that you are able to curate your online experience <3

[haebeomsleftbuttcheek]

I always get confused when people say “Horikoshi confirmed in a interview that Deku is straight”.

I guess people got this from him confirming multiple times that he has plans for Izuocha?? But that isn’t the same thing. Like, Horikoshi has NEVER publicly confirmed or denied any characters sexuality, except for Toga’s bisexuality, and that was from a character concept sheet.

I don’t get why people have to blatantly lie in these arguments when they could easily just go “it’s a shonen manga, it’s unlikely for the main character to be gay” and be done with it.

Even then, fanon is allowed to exist.

Hi 😊 yeah they literally could just use the typical “it’s Shonen” and be done with it, but in all honesty I don’t really know why people need to scream about it anyways! Whether Horikoshi confirmed it or not, it’s not going to stop people from shipping fanon, or shipping outside of the canon ships or just fanon in general. These arguments are to me very pointless, and serve to do nothing but cause anger, divide and discourse in the fandom.

I also think that when people say “the author said this/confirmed this” then, they think they have “won” the argument because the author is the creator of the story or whatever. But like I said I think these arguments are so pointless, and no matter how much people want to scream about “Deku being straight” “Horikoshi confirmed it” and so on so on. It’s not going to stop fanon from existing, or from people shipping ships like BakuDeku, TodoDeku so on. I’m pretty sure looking at the Naruto fandom, plenty of people still ship NaruSasu even though those two are married with kids. I personally myself will not stop loving my fanon ships, even when canon ships are confirmed different!

[ikeysaurus]

dog no offense but if you’re a legal adult and you talk about which fictional minors would top or bottom you’re WEIRD AS SHIT

[baharehyz]

A comparision between narusaku and Bkdk

 click here for part 2

I saw a lot of comparisons between bkdk and narusasu and between narusaku and izuocha.but never between narusaku and bkdk. Honestly, they have a lot of similarities. in general, I think the nature of  bakugo and uraraka’s relationship with Deku (despite being platonic or romantic) compare to Naruto relation(ships) Is like this:

Bakudeku= narusaku+narusasu

Izaocha= narusaku+naruhina

But here, I wanna compare narusaku to bkdk :

Despite their roles, which is :

Deku=Naruto:protagonist

bakugo=sasuke:rival/deuteragonist

uraraka=Sakura/ heroine

bkdk relationship runs higher than just rivals.though the bond between Naruto and sasuke is surely strong but bakudeku ‘s is deeper and more complicated .and as for izaocha,they are not as close as Naruto and Sakura and they definitely not as distant as naruhina(I’m just gonna refer to the relationship by their ship names to prevent long wording ).but back to bkdk ,as I said their relationship is really deep and there isn’t a middle ground in their relationship which  keeps growing exponentially and  gives bkdk a  high potential to become romantic love.(honestly  the only people I see have the potential to have romantic relationship with deku are uraraka and bakugo).though bkdk out runed izaocha in growing since uraraka found out about her crush.as for narusaku,putting aside naruto’s crush and undying love for Sakura for 699 chapters,they were really close  and sure it wasn’t matual at first but it soon became the most mutual relationship in Naruto series I’ve ever seen.there is thousands metas why either relationships(narusaku and bkdk)are special,but I just wanna show  some parallelism  I found between these bonds.

1.  Sakura-chan!/Kac-chan!

This one is the most obvious and as you probably know chan is an honorific suffix, that is Most frequently used for girls, small children, close friends, or lovers.it is an odd coincidence that the only people the protagonists call with suffix ‘chan’ are these too. and did you notice only Deku and Naruto call them like that? (as for eri, everybody calls her eri-chan and kaminari only uses kachhan to tease bakugo, and when he wants to refer to him he uses bakugo, and for Sakura, I don’t remember anyone  ever called her like that)

2.sakura/bakugou  were the first people founding out about their biggest secret

Naruto didn’t exactly tell anyone about nine-tails, but Sakura and Sasuke doubted first(especially Sasuke)and sakura was directly told about nine-tails in their way to rescue Gaara in chapter 252 and later on Sasuke finds out by seeing nine-tails itself. and for Deku, he literally ran out to tell bakugo half-truth so he know he didn’t trick him.

3. heaven and earth/wining and saving

Midoriya izuku and bakugo katsuki /Uzumaki Naruto and Sakura Haruno both complete each other in a sense. first in being a great hero and latter being a (great) ninja.

4. them and their parents…

In chapter 631, after naruto’s father shows up, he quickly compares sakura with kushina(naruto’s mother). Our first encounter with bakugo’s parents in MHA presents how Masaru bakugo(katsuki’s father) and izuku Midoriya are alike. it’s an interesting coincidence, don’t you think?

5.’’I will kill him if he dies on me’’/’’ I won’t let you die when your dream Is this close to you!’’

i saw more parallelism,i’ll post them later. i got the pictures from https://mangapanda.onl/ and i must repeat that i’m just comparing two relationships i find really beautiful and interesting and wanted to share my thoughts about  them,anyway if you are a fan of this characters i hope you enjoyed reading this post!

[hamliet]

when does a relationship become queerbaiting? theres a book that i really like and the 2 male leads characters have a lot of storylines and arcs where they get closer and i think some of the tropes used can be similar to the typical romantic tropes, neither of them end up with anyone at the end of the story since its more about found family and the long journey the whole cast goes through. they even get shipped by another character as a running gag. personally i always saw it as being open to interpretation but recently the revised edition of the original novel came out and there were several lines those 2 characters had about each other that were kinda toned down, i didnt think much of it but i saw a post about how it was clearly baiting and the author was being homophobic for toning it down. i didnt think it counted as baiting since as far as i know, the novel was never advertised as anything with romance and the author never pretended they were gonna end up together. i am definitely a little weirded out by the decision to change those specific lines but a lot of the story stayed the same, including a lot about their relationship so idk what to think.

i guess im more confused on if it counts as baiting, or even substext??

Sooooo I am not the best person to ask about this, because I’m a cis woman who has thus far in life only been attracted in a romantic sense to cis men. I can talk a bit about baiting as a general concept in fiction, but you should definitely take it with some grains of salt. 

Baiting, for me, is like deliberately playing up an aspect writers have no intention on delivering on. Usually this is done for ratings, to tease fans, fanservice, etc, but without payoff, it is just bad writing. Red herrings are good in writing, but only can be successfully used if the actual result is more satisfying than the herring. This applies to writing in general, not just to romantic ships. However, when the baiting involves historically underrepresented groups for no reason other than to get fans to spend money consuming the story, I think we can all agree that becomes something more grotesque than just bad writing: it’s insensitive, socially irresponsible, frankly hurtful. 

Some common examples are Bridgerton which has a gay character, who is extremely minor, yet they played up this character in advertising. Also, Rizzoli and Isles I think actually had its producers mention deliberately playing up the lesbian subtext to hook the audience without ever intending on following through. 

That said, context also matters. Like, there are aspects of the culture of the work’s author, the target audience, and such that come into play here also (so like, romantic tropes differ by culture. For example, enemies to lovers is common in Asian stories but less in the west, and the “girl who pursues a guy” is extremely common in Japanese shonen in particular, while it is very much a cringe trope that almost never results in romance in American fiction. So if a writer reads, say, tropes that are common in America into a Japanese work and says it’s baiting, that’s quite possibly not the intent even if it may have been the experience of the reader. So even if there was no intent, there can still be hurt, and that hurt can be real, if that makes sense. 

The definition of what constitutes ‘baiting’ varies. I do think that, in true Tumblr fashion, the term gets thrown around a lot and loses its intended meaning, or is so rigidly defined that creators can meet the letter of the “not a bait” requirement while ignoring the spirit of it.

To start with the latter: regarding something hitting the letter of what most wouldn’t consider baiting yet not really the spirit, let’s look at The Rise of Skywalker. This movie had a genuine lesbian kiss in it... between two characters we’d never seen more than a glimpse of while others are celebrating around them. Since it has a kiss, it’s not baiting, right? Well... the director deliberately said in the lead-up to the film that he included it because he “wanted LGBT people to see themselves in the film.” If “see yourselves in the film” is like a nanosecond of background, then, like... idk. Baiting or not, it feels icky, and I know some people consider it baiting and some don’t even if they don’t like, love that representation. But I think this is more queerbaiting than like, Nobara and Maki, who don’t have explicit romantic coding. 

Going back to the former, in terms of ‘queerbaiting’ losing its intended meaning... I think there are a lot of really poorly written romantic ships out there, often het, while a lot of same-gender relationships are really well written regardless of whether there’s romantic coding within the text. The main emotional energy in stories with 90% male characters (as frankly many if not most stories are, great job world) is probably between two men. There’s just so much more potential with well-written characters who share a lot of screen time, so of course people are going to ship them. In my opinion, this does not inherently make it baiting, but it certainly creates an environment that lends itself to baiting even if the writers aren’t intending to do this. 

Like, you could say the main emotional energy in BNHA is Bakugou and Deku. However, Bakudeku is 100% not queerbaiting. It’ll never be canon romantically (I don’t even ship it lol). There has been nothing to imply romance between them even if the main emotional message can be seen in their development. Deku/Ochaco is likely to be canon, but there is a significant lack of genuine emotional energy between them (the story’s plots and themes don’t coalesce around their relationship), so it’s probably going to feel forced. In contrast, Naruto/Sasuke had an actual kiss in canon, which while played for laughs is a lot more direct romantic coding than anything between Bakugou/Deku. I actually don’t think the majority of Narusasu is baiting, but I definitely think that one moment in chapter like 3 was really poor fanservice for yaoi fans, and has not aged well at all. 

It is also the case that fans can confuse headcanons with what is actually in the text, and that just never ends well. For example, Clover and Qrow’s ship in RWBY: a lot of people read Clover as gay, which led to “bury your gays” outrage when he died. A member of the crew stated explicitly they had never intended for Clover to be a love interest for Qrow, and truthfully here was nothing strictly romantic in their relationship--nothing like a kiss or a declaration of love or a parallel to another romantic couple. Hence, I don’t personally consider it queerbaiting or bury your gays, but a lot of fans felt that it was and their pain is legitimate even if I think textually the argument isn’t there. The one thing I do think is true about this in particular is that there was also no strict platonic coding, which encourages headcanons. Clear writing, yo. It can help. 

Note the word “can” not “will,” because strict platonic coding doesn’t always fix things, either. In what was probably a reaction to the outrage over Clover’s death, you had extremely blatant platonic coding of Ruby and Penny’s relationship this season leading up to Penny’s death. Ruby refers to Penny as “our friend” three different times, wherein “friend” sends a platonic message and “our” sends an even stronger message that it’s not about the two of them despite the fact that their friendship is one of the sweetest and most interesting in the show. A lingering Ruby-Penny hug then is followed by a lingering Penny-Weiss hug, then Yang, then Blake, etc. The writers went out of their way to hit people over the head with “platonic” and yet they have still gotten accusations of bury your gays and queerbaiting because people will see what they want to see in a story. 

Seeing what you want to see in a story also isn’t inherently bad. People who are underrepresented are going to have to read themselves into stories because Lord knows writers ain’t incorporating them well enough if at all. It’s why “Mary Sues” are common in fanfiction, which is primarily written by people who are not straight white men: because where the hell else are we to see ourselves in fiction? So essentially the macrocosm of culture creates this problem, both in terms of baiting and the misuse of the term, and the only fix is a shit ton more good representation.

[nyx3927]

Shipping Theory

I have a THEORY about why certain ships/certain people to ship are more common than others. And I will inflict that theory on others so it gets out of my head.

Firstly, let us define some terms to use in this theory. 1:Sunshine child (SC). A character that is primarily happy, upbeat, optimistic, or some combination of those. 2:Dark child (DC). A character that is very down to earth, a bit of a pessimist/realist, cynical, etc. 3: Moon child (MC). A character that has traits of both a sunshine child and a dark child in fairly equal ratios.

Now for my examples. *Pulls up AO3*

Let us look at the top fandoms (that I'm in and know how the characters are in canon) in different media types such as TV, Book, Anime & Manga, and Cartoons.

First order of business: Anime/Manga.

The most popular fandom to write for is currently Boku no Hero Academia/My Hero Academia (BNHA/MHA). From 1st place, the most popular ships are BakuDeku, KiriBaku, TodoDeku, EraserMic, BakuTodo, IzuOcha, Kacchako, MomoJirou. Deku is classified as a SC, very happy and smiley all the time. Bakugō and Todoroki are both DC because they lock all their feelings up and are generally not the kindest or most optimistic person. Uraraka Ochako is a MC with fairly obvious lean towards the sunshine side of the spectrum. Eraserhead and Present Mic are already pre color-coded for your convenience, the first being a DC and the second being a SC. For Yaoyorozu Momo and Jirō Kyōka, they are harder to classify as they are not as prevalent in canon. However, they are solid MC based on what I see. In this one example, a Sunshine child was primarily shipped with a Dark child with only one ship with a Moon child. The Moon child was either shipped with another Moon Child or a Sunshine child. The Dark child was shipped exclusively with a Sunshine Child.

The third most popular fandom to write for is Naruto. From 1st place, the most popular ships are SasuNaru/NaruSasu, KakaIru, SasuSaku, HinaNaru, KakaObi, KakaSaku, MadaTobi, ShikaTema, HinaSasu, and HashiMada/MadaHashi. Sasuke, Kakashi, and Madara are all clear examples of a Dark child. Iruka, Naruto, and Hashirama are all precious Sunshine children. Sakura, Hinata, Tobirama, Temari, and Shikamaru are all Moon children, because they are realists but they are also optimistic. Obito is a tricky case though. As a child, he was definitely a Sunshine baby, but after Madara got his claws into him, he became a dark child. In this case, Obito is still at his core, a sunshine child, it’s just buried under Shinobi life, and just needs to be drawn out. So again the Sunshine child is primarily shipped with a dark child with a few moon child ships. The moon child is shipped with all types: SC, DC, and MC.

I was always told to have multiple examples to back up my theories, so time to move on to the books & literature. I will only cover one example here, since most of my book tastes are more niche and don’t have a huge fandom and I don’t want to have to research too much for this.

And the fandom chosen is the Harry Potter Fandom sitting comfortably at number 1 in the fan works under the tag. The ships, starting with the most popular are: Drarry, WolfStar, Snarry, Romione, Dramione, Jily, Hinny, Snape/Hermione, Tomarry, and Harmony. Only a few characters are really Dark children. On this list, only Snape and Tom Riddle/Voldemort are truly Dark child because they are cynical, they are pessimistic, and for Riddle, downright megalomanic. The rest of them are moon children because they all have their ups and downs, moments of optimism and pessimism, being happy and beaten down. So DC are only with the MC, and the MC are shipped with other MC and DC.

One final example. It’s a monster, one that impacted our culture tremendously, so what kind of human would I be if I didn’t mention it.

The Marvel Universe [For this purpose, I’m only looking at the Marvel Movies/TV shows, not the comics. Otherwise, I’d be even closer to a mental breakdown]. One last time, ranking the ships in order of popularity from first to last: Stucky, Stony, Pepperony, Thorki, Clintasha, BlackHawk/ ShieldHusbands/(Clint/Phil), FrostIron, and a Bucky/reader. I will be disregarding the reader ship as I can’t quantify a reader as a SC, MC, or a DC. Steve Rogers, Clint Barton and Thor are all SC, because they remain happy and joking for most of the universe. Pepper and Phil are Moon children with a more Sunshine bend, they show humor and tease a lot (Even if Phil’s teasing is a little harsher than most). Tony, Bucky, and Loki are all MC with a darker lean. Natasha is really the only Dark child in my eyes given these ships because she is a spy from the Red Room with a ledger soaked in red that is very much a cynical realist and a manipulator (See scene with Loki from Avengers for evidence). SC is paired with MC (typically one that leans a little darker). MC is paired with DC or with another MC that leans towards the opposite side (IE MC with sun lean pairs with MC with moon lean).

In conclusion, we have learned that people prefer to ship the SC with the DC or the MC based on the media and its characterizations. A SC/SC or a DC/DC is not as popular a ship but still exists (See Kirishima Eijirō and Midoriya Izuku ship and the ship of Voldemort(Tom Riddle) with Severus Snape).

My theory is thus: We ship characters that have fascinating interactions with each other, and those interactions are driven by their core personalities being different. A SC and a DC have fundamentally different cores which is why they have an intriguing relationship which is fodder for the shippers, and why those are the prevailing ships in fandoms.

[waywardfacegarden]

17 & 18 & 19👀✨

Aaaaaaaahhh, thank you so much for the ask!!! :’) 17. biggest anime crush <- this is a hard one, lol.

I have A LOT of anime crushes, honestly, haha. Whoops. It’s a problem I have…

But I’ll say a few so I don’t, like, overwhelm you HAHA.

I think that if I had to choose my biggest crush between all my anime crushes, it would be a tie between Bakugou Katsuki and Yuri Plisetsky, haha. (… I kinda have a “type” don’t I? Lmao.) [[Edited: AND LIO FIOTA. OMG. I CAN’T BELIEVE I FORGOT, I HAVE THE BIGGEST FAT CRUSH ON HIM. IT’S DEFINITELY A TIE BETWEEM THE THREE OF THEM. He’s literally the definition of “he’s beauty, he’s grace, he will punch you in the face”. LIKE. He’s strong, so so so kind, cool, selfless, passionate, SO STUNNING AND PRETTY, and just. Every time he kicks someone’s ass I fall in love a bit more. AKSJKLSJD.]]

They both have me completely on my knees, LOL. And both since the very start of their characters, if I’m completely honest. I love their determination, their passion, the effort they put into all they do despite their bright, innate talent. I honestly could ramble about why I love both with so much of my heart it’s ridiculous, but only if you have, like… time for a 9458298472 slide presentation… ahaha.

Rin Okumura, Kamado Tanjiro, Levi Ackerman and Sasuke Uchiha are SUUUPER close, too. (And I sure have a lot more, lol, but, basically, yeah. Those are the ones that have me head-over-heels, believe it or not.)

18. 10 worst anime you have watched:

Noooo, friend, you ask me something I can’t answer!!!! I have animes I didn’t particularly love, but they’re not… that terrible. It’s more like I think they had more potential or that I despise/hate certain characters on it, but not the anime in general.

That said, I’ll mention a few:

*Spiritpact. I’m not sure, but I think this one is actually popular? I saw it all because I had been seeing a lot of gifs of it around, but I honestly got bored? The story didn’t particularly attract me, neither the characters. And hey, this is just my opinion, obviously, but, yeah. I thought the plot was very basic and I usually don’t mind if I like the characters, but I didn’t feel any connection or love to the characters in general? I don’t know, maybe I was expecting more of it with all the hype. I’m not saying I hated it, I liked some moments but after two seasons I just… expected a lot more, I guess.

Now, the ones I actually dropped:

*Servamp: I had seen a lot of amazing opinions about this one, so I gave it a chance, and honestly? Not my thing. I loved the first episode REALLY a lot, but that’s it. The “big villain” was very dumb, for me, a lot of characters’ relationships felt rushed, the plot wasn’t really exciting me, so… yeah. I think I dropped it on the fourth or fifth, just so you know how rapidly I got bored of it after loving the first one, haha.

*Btoom!: when I saw the trailer, I was like “HOT DAMN, I N E E D TO WATCH THIS”, got to see the first three episodes I think?? And if I’m honest that was WAY back. I don’t really remember what annoyed me/bored me so much about it, but I think it was the main girl?? Haha. I don’t know, maybe I had really high expectations or so. I don’t remember exactly why I dropped it but I remember getting pretty annoyed at one character HAHA. The plot still sounds hella interesting, tho, I’ll maybe give it chance later.

*Zetsuen no Temptest: I started watching it because of a ship but I got bored, too, hahaha. I don’t remember why, either, but yeah, I thought it was good at the beginning… but I didn’t watch more than 3 episodes, I think, haha. Aaaah. I hate not remembering exactly why I dropped it, lol. But it’s kinda the same thing: the characters and the plot wasn’t really exciting me.

The ones I do hate:

*School Days. I H A T E this anime with a burning passion, lmao. One friend rec it to me and told me, and I quote, “it’s really interesting!! I liked the ending, it’s very realistic”. Well, yeah, shit. HAHA. I don’t like the plot; I DESPISE, LOATHE, AND HATE the main character, I don’t like the two main girls (and all the characters tbh), and overall I dislike the plot in general. It’s dumb, stupid, the characters are not likable, and that “shocking” ending doesn’t do much for me. It’s not “realistic” or anything, it’s a fuckboy and two crazy girls, and yeah, not my thing at all. I was sitting there at 1am after finishing it like “what the fuck did I just watch” lmao. Ugh. I really don’t like this one.

*Mayoiga: I don’t know if this one it’s popular, so pardon me, LOL. I just watched it a few days ago and… yeah. I wouldn’t say I hate it. I don’t hate it. But I saw the summary in a rec anime list and got excited and… I just expected something different, I guess. I was looking for horror, suspense, I don’t know… but instead I got moral lessons LOL. Honestly, the “traumas” of the characters were interesting, I absolutely LOVE some characters, and some of them I don’t particularly love them but they’re really interesting. It has really good scenes. The animation is really good. IT HAD POTENTIAL. A LOT. But I don’t like the main character because he’s really fucking boring and basic/plain. He’s just the typical protagonist but done in an annoying way, imo. Masaki is also annoying as fuck imo, lol. I don’t like that the only thing she does at the start is crying and I don’t like how they very much focus on Protagonist Obsession on her like 80% on the anime and on her being a victim. It’s fucking annoying. They’re the least interesting characters, imo (so much that Protagonist had an interesting background and made it boring…), and they focus way too much on them. They had interesting characters, interesting subplots. If they focused on the others instead, if they focused on developing more the characters, their relationships, it would have been a LOT better! But no. It just felt rushed and poorly done by the end. I liked a few plot-twists but overall it felt really rushed because they didn’t focus on the things they SHOULD, so it just felt wrapped up badly, imo. Honestly expected so much more of this one, it had such an amazing start, the creepy vibes were ON POINT, the scenery, certain characters, the mystery (that was solved poorly too imo), it just… I don’t know, I don’t hate it because it has good points, but by the end, I felt like I really wasted my time on this one. The potential it had…

ALL OF THIS IS JUST MY OPINION, of course!!!

19. favorite anime ships

Okay, so. I won’t talk about them because if I do, then I’ll never shut up LMAO (but feel free to ask me about them any time and I’ll ramble a whole lot, be sure of that, haha). So I’ll just mention them in no particular order (brace yourself, they’re a lot. And yeah, I’m almost equally obsessed with every single one LOL):

Sasunaru/Narusasu from Naruto

Todobaku, Bakudeku and Shinkami from BNHA

Asheiji from Banana Fish (this ship T-T)

Kagehina from Haikyuu!!

Abemiha and Tajihana from Oofuri

Mikayuu and Yuunoa from Owari No Seraph

Kagakuro and Midotaka from Kuroko no Basket

Honoka Maki/Tsuguhito Yuta from Kiznaiver

Tanaka/Oda from Tanaka-kun Wa Itsumo Kedaruge

Shion/Nezumi from No. 6

Abeshiya from Fukigen na Mononokean

Ioriku from IDOLISH7

Galolio from Promare

Nagisa/Karma from Assassination Classroom

Satoru/Airi and Satoru/Kenya from Erased

Yato/Hiyori from Noragami

Ymir/Historia and Jean/Armin from SNK

KITE/Koga from Japan Sinks 2020

[burnedbyshoto]

Oooooooooooof, I love this show so much just please people, talk about something other than the ships, that's so much of the fandom, like have your fun and all but omg there's more to this show then the two boys you wanna watch fuck (which seems so creepy lmao). Them people that claim to have evidence just please calm down, friends are a thing.

ahem. I am no longer drunk, and will now be answering to this.

to be honest, it sort of confused me when this came into my askbox when I was sober. I looked at this and was plain and simply thinking “I clearly ship myself with these characters, and my oc which I have yet to introduce to y’all”.

honestly, because of shipping wars i’m hesitant to reveal who I ship to you all, as I don’t want to have to defend myself. I don’t want to be forced to feel like the only way to get around some of the toxic fans if through a bloody fist fight:

 so, let’s talk about shipping culture within mainstream media and fandoms *disclaimer: none of the ships I have included in the following I will neither confirm nor deny if I ship. please do not ask me about my ships until I am ready to reveal such.*

I will agree with you, and also disagree with you. 

where I agree with you is about this entire toxic shipper trait that runs within many and nearly all fandoms. every single fandom I was apart of prior to bnha have all experience shipping wars. hell, I am a veteran on the naruto fandom war. I was heavily invested into the fandom circa months before and up until it ended. I was a major and hardcore naruhina shipper. please if you’re a narusasu, narusaku, kibahina, sasuhina, whatever, do not come to me expressing why my feelings towards them are wrong. simply I am sick and tired of shipping wars.

they are by far the worst things about shipping and fandoms. I took a class on ethics and morals, and one of the biggest get aways I took from it was this: never say that people are allowed to have their own opinion. thats how we get nazi’s. so lets view this in… a utilitarian viewpoint. say, for example, if I shipped bakudeku. they make me happy. the amazing content creators that stretch from drawers, writers, and filmmakers are amazing. they all make me happy. thats great! we love that! now my one friend who does not ship tododeku, but instead ships bakudeku. what should I do?

a. scoff, they’re wrong! TODODEKU OR BUST!!!!

b. smile awkwardly, nod your head, and ask “why?” full of judgment

c. literally gag as you shake your head. this friendship is so over.

d. pull out my 1000 slide powerpoint on all the damning evidence as to why tododeku is the best ship, and a 17205879268276048529 slide powerpoint as to why bakudeku is actually a super toxic ship, and how dare you like that ship? “do you support abusive relationships?” you ask, your upper lip curling at your best friend.

what is your choice? thats correct, the correct choice is option E. NONE OF THE FUCKING ABOVE. in which case is this making you happy? your friend has their own interpretation of the damn text, as do you clearly so do or else we would all be shipping the same thing. as long as it clearly does not interfere with deemed normal guidelines, why do you care so much? 

we can all agree we love these characters or else you wouldn’t be in these fandoms, and maybe youre one of those people who are only here for two characters interactions. but how in the damn world is shoving down someones feeling nice? there you are talking about love between two characters and shit over someone elses. what you should do is nod your head, respect what they damn ship, and go ahead and share your own ships! but you know what you should NEVER do???? bash another ship.

stop trying to find someone to fight. no I don’t care about who started it! just stop! there, especially on tumblr, many older fans. im sure we’ve all seen our fair share of ships wars, and its fantastic to be passionate about your ship, definitely don’t stop!!!! but if you’re constantly fighting others over it and bringing another ship to raise up your own…. just leave the fandom. I dont want to see you on the tags ever. i want to see art, writings, and theories, and fun things. I don’t want a 20 paragraph essay on why shigaraki and izuku will be married and why you’re a fucking idiot with a phat #antimomodeku in the tag. keep your ideas to yourself, stop looking for a reaction from rival ships. come on guys….. we know who is endgame for some of these bigger ships, don’t play dumb. but im not going to shame you. judge, or scoff when you continue passionately shipping your ship. go ahead!!! do it!!!! its FUN!!!!! the only ship im open about is momojirou which I know has like 2% chance of being canon, but you don’t see me slamming todomomo/kamijirou shippers.

believe what you want, but your evidence should stay within your own tag. don’t let it bled over. and for the love of god, tag properly and stop looking through ship tags you don’t like just to pick a fight.

where I disagree with you:

people are going to always ship things. we’re human and automatically force social relations between things. it’s a weird psychological thing that many, not all, but many of us have. it’s especially prominent when the main cast is not evenly mixed in terms of representation. this is why male x male ships are so prominent. it’s because the only female main character is uraraka. no one else really is a main character. I love my girl momo, yall know that, but shes not a main character just because she had a mental breakdown during final exams and is super rich smart and pretty. it’s just us being gay. she’s not as important of a character and it annoys me. 

I think people talk about their ships because it makes them happy, and if it’s something that truly annoys you i say you have to keep scrolling, or maybe move to something like reddit, the fandom there is strictly business, no shipping on the general tag. tumblr is a content place and works with tagging, so things involving ships is prominent because this site makes is…. easier…. not really, but easier. so you’ll come across ships because everyone uses the #bnha and #mha tag on their things! on reddit is very much more controlled.

[sunny-h19]

Soooo, BakuDeku...

Ok, quick disclaimer: I don't want to tell you what to and what not to ship(as long as it's legal), I just like to talk/write about my take on things, and this is sonething going through my mind a lot lately so yeah.

So, the last few weeks I had a lot of BakuDeku stuff in my "you might like" sections of my social media, and while I'd like to call myself a multishipper, I just can't get my head around BakuDeku. I don't judge people for shipping it, but I just always had a proplem with it and I don't feel comfortable with fics or fanart or cosplay of their ship.

Of course I get the thought behind it. My first mm ship was NaruSasu and I generally enjoy rival-slash, but for BakuDeku there is just so much background including bullying, mental as well as physical abuse, suggesting/telling to comit suicide and the list goes on.

In my opinion, the most important and vital thing in every relationship, especially romnatic ones is trust, because honestly, what is love without trust? And while Izuku has a really big patience span with Katsuki and has seemed to forgive him for his actions, I just can't see him trusting him enough to be in a romantic relationship.

I was bullied by friends i had in Kindergarten and Elemantary School when i was like 11 to 13/14 and I still care deeply for them(like Izuku does with Katsuki) but I can't really trust them after everything that happened(which was significantly less than the Bakudeku stuff) which is why I can't really settel with the ship.

I maybe biased because of personal experiences, but i just wanted to share my thoughts.

If you want we can talk about it a little more(maybe tell me why you ship it/don't ship it) but please remain from attacking anyone, this is just my opinion i wnated to share,

So yeah, have a nice day!

[usuratonluffy]

deku bouta pull this generation's "naruto-busting-out-the-ninetails-cloak-bc-he-thought-sasuke-was-dead" moment when he finds bkgo laying there, bleeding n stuff 😭😭

[usuratonluffy]

hoping and praying that bkdk becomes canon so those who ship it can have the victory that us sns' shippers couldn't 😔🙏🏻

[vitaxore]

YESSSSSS SOMEONE GETS IT!! bkdks yall better win for ALL the ships like sasunaru and lawlight

hoping and praying that bkdk becomes canon so those who ship it can have the victory that us sns' shippers couldn't 😔🙏🏻