#avvy's snow white

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ugh im remembering Aida sensei describing that Rasphard's earring is the same shade of green as Lio's eyes ... remembering Lio describing Rasphard's amber eyes as having burned him... I won't survive if the Yugi twins have anything to say about each other's differing gazes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'M THINKNIG ABOUT IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're a mirror with two faces Two sides, simple as that When I look at my reflection Do I see myself?

Don't you run away, don't you run away, don't you run away

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oh the amount we were afraid of becoming Estelio-brained after playing narisokonai snow white. like amane just flat out went NO. i dont want that creep in here. kimochi warui. and while me and avvy were RPing ambrose twins stuff visciously for a week or w/e i literally wouldn't let her touch my dick much. so scared was i.

jokes on me though cuz Lio definitely jerked off about Ras before we were even RPing and also definitely received head recently. why do i even bother 💔

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at last I can Look at This

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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE Q&A!!!!!!!!!! oh Rasphard, his pathetic and miserable swag.... I love knowing Iro wrote such a guy, and experienced such monumental thirst from the people.... thank you so much for translating!!!

[if you're reading this with no context for who Rasphard is or the significance of this Q&A, you can check out my reference post here. Narisokonai Snow White is an old visual novel game by AidaIro]

my favorite thing about this'n is Aida revealing the detail about his earring. I love the subtextual agenda.... it contributes so much for being such a small detail.

Q&A Rasphard edition

Let’s hope I can post this without getting kicked out this time.

Anyway, I’m working on translating the bonus Q&A sections that were on the official Narisokonai Snow White website, with this as the first installment. Please keep in mind that these were meant for players who have finished the game, so they are full of spoilers!

(If you notice any errors or iffy translations, please let me know so I can fix them!)

Questions and messages for the bumbling scholar-in-training

Messages of love

Ras, come be my bride. Creators, please give Ras to m-- (cut off)

Ras being flippant, Ras smirking with a :3 face... I keep talking about Ras, but he's so cute. I love him. He's so open with his feelings. And cute.

It's not fair how he sometimes acts like a puppy dog, it makes me want to pet him.

Augh, all I want is for you to be happy. Really... seriously... He's the character who left me stunned in the end!! I love him, he's so adorable!!

I love Ras!

I love you, Rasphard! Let's start with being friends!

(Note: As in, “so we can move on to being lovers.”)

He's suffered so much up until this point, I want him to be happy in the end.

I thought he was a cliched character at first, but as I went through the game, I gradually came to like him! I want the three of them to be together forever, lol.

Please be happy!

I want him to be happy with his little brother and the princess looking out for him.

I hope the day will come when Ras and Leo can smile and laugh with all their hearts!

Don't consider doing something sad like dying all alone.

I love Ras for being so adorable and incompetent. I want to hold his hand forever! squeezes I want him to be my bride.

He was a complete pitiful shut-in loser in the epilogue, but I hope he can find happiness with Neige and not lose out to Leo. *´ω｀)

Ras is incompetent to the point that that there's no hope for him and he was so refreshingly bad that it made me feel like tbh he's waaaay too much of a loser but it's the kind of incompetence that makes his flaws seem enchanting, so looking at him makes me want to bull--er, take good care of him. The little brother's harsh demeanor and the older brother's incompetence are extremely heartwarming.

For some reason, looking at Ras' smile just makes me think that I want him to smile more and be happy. I also love how he makes you feel like you can't leave him alone yet can't quite understand him, and how he's so down-to-earth.

I love Ras so much I can't stand it, when he comes to the castle and is walking on eggshells around Leo and his grandfather. Stop going on about belonging to someone else, be mine.

The way you can see his collarbones when he's wearing his regular clothes is sublime. I couldn't help noticing the zettai ryouiki (?) at his waist, too.

I think he should stop putting himself down and have a little more confidence, because he's wonderful.

I love you so much for the way you practiced making flower crowns because you wanted to make the princess happy!!! I love those slim hips, too!!!!!!

I love Ras!! He's such a pure, cute, bumbling, little puppy dog!! I want him to be able to happily laugh and talk with the princess... not to the point where Leo would murder him for it, though. Keep trying, lol.

Rasphard, pick me! Let's be friends so we can end up married someday!!

Ras: Whoa, this is incredible! Thanks for all the comments... I've never gotten this much attention from people before, so I was surprised!

Messages

Ras is exactly my type of loser. His fearfulness around Estelio brings out the sadist in me. I want to bully him mercilessly and then pat him on the head and tell him it's okay. Ras: I don't think I'm worth bullying. You probably wouldn't have any fun…

I'm being meddlesome, but I can't help thinking that Ras really should try to build some physical strength. Ras: … Leo: Don't look away.

At first I thought Ras was shallow (I'm swear I'm not making fun of him!), but he turned out to just be incompetent. (I swear I'm not ma-- (cut off)) That said, in the end he seemed like a thoughtful and knowledgeable person. Ras: Um… are you sure you're not making fun of me?

I thought that it would wrap things up nicely if the princess married both of them after ending 7. How would it actually work out? Ras: I, uh, wonder. I'm pretty sure there's no way it could happen. Nocsia: Is polygamy not allowed for royalty? Leo: (Forget that, there's an even more fundamental problem for us…)

Please stay a loser for the rest of your life. Can I bully you? Ras: What?! Uhh… I-I don't want that!

Ras, do your best and don't lose out to Estelio!

Ras, do your best and keep at it, but not so much your brother kills you. I'm on your side more than his! Ras: Thanks, though I don't think I could win… Or more like, I'm not sure I even want to win, myself. Neige: Oh, what are you talking about? Ras: Hmm, just saying that I can't do anything else when Leo's in the picture. Nothing you need to worry about.

A man shouldn't give up on his position as the older brother so easily! But I love you for being a loser at the same time! Ras: Yeah, that's right! I'll do my be… wait, what? Uh, I'm happy you like me, but I guess I'd better try not to be so pathetic…

Hang in there, Ras! It won't be long before you have Leo calling you "big brother"… probably!

I love you, Ras!! (lol) PS: I hope someday Leo will think of you as his older brother! Ras: Really? That makes me happy. I hope that I can become the kind of big brother he can rely on, but it might be difficult to pull off. Leo really has it together.

Drink a love potion for me!! (lol) Ras: Love potions… or rather aphrodisiacs, only have a temporary effect. You okay with that? Neige: That's not the problem. Ras: Hey, efficacy is important. Essentially, aphrodisiacs are things you only want to use on someone you're already in a relationship with, or when you can't bring yourself to take the next step. Neige: ? Isn't it pointless to use one if you're already lovers? Ras: No, like I said, it's for when you're ready for the next step. Neige: What's "the next step"? Ras: Um, er, you know, that. Neige: Meaning what? Ras: Uhh… like… holding hands, things like that… Neige: For some reason, I get the feeling you're trying to fool me…

In that scene, you should have gone for the lips, not the cheek! Ras: What? O-oh, you mean that time! Yeah, you know, that would have been a little much… or maybe I should say, it would have been wrong… Nocsia: (glance..) Leo: (I feel someone's eyes on me…)

Come on, why not. I'm sure your grandfather has special feelings for you. Ras: Hell no!! He's a guy, and even worse, he's old, you know?! Not to mention he has a wife and I don't want an incestuous relationship!!! Neige: You don't have to be that angry about it. It makes me feel sorry for him. Ras: I'm the one you should be feeling sorry for.

Questions for the self-proclaimed older brother!

So, who was your first crush?? (lol)

Your first crush was the princess, right? Ras: Huh? Uh, ummm, let's see… That's a secret. Leo: It's not her? Ras: I told you, it's a secret!

Is there any significance to Rasphard's earring?

Is there a story behind the earring in his left ear? (Or is it just a helpful way to distinguish between the twins cough) Ras: Oh, this? I bought it on a whim from a stall at the market… I just liked it for no particular reason. (Creators: Hano said that she uses the same green for the earring and Leo's eyes.)

It seems like Estelio has a lot of expectations for anyone Neige might marry, so I get the feeling that he would end up acting like a demanding mother-in-law if she did find someone… But what about Rasphard? Would he be okay with anyone, as long as Neige had decided on them? Ras: Yeah, if the princess had her heart set on it, I wouldn't interfere, but… Leo: But? Ras: Well… how to put this… it's not like I'd be okay with just anybody.

I know that Leo is physically stronger than Ras, but I'm curious about how much of a gap there is between the two. Judging by how the princess managed to catch Ras when they met, I guess he can't be any stronger than her… (Creators: Even though he's weak, he's still a nineteen-year-old guy, so he has more strength than the princess, as you would expect, but less endurance. He quickly gets out of breath when going up stairs.) Leo: Didn't you practice martial arts? Ras: Only when I was a little kid--ow!--so--ow!--don't start hitting me for real… Now my arm hurts…

List the people you love, romantic and platonic, in order. Ras: In order? U-um, that's gonna be rough. The people I love, or I maybe I should say, the ones usually on my mind, are the princess, Leo, Grandfather, Grandma, and Dad. As far as somebody I love, I guess the princess? I don't know.

There's a scene where Leo picks up the princess and carries her, but would Ras be able to do the same? He doesn't seem to be as strong as Leo… Ras: Are you making fun of me? Of course I could carry someone as small as the princess… Neige: Oh, really? Leo: … Ras: What's with those skeptical looks? Sure, I couldn't carry her very far, but…

Has Ras been in love with Niege all this time??? Ras: Wow, not beating around the bush, are you. Well, now that you bring it up, I guess so…

Why does Ras want to be the older brother? Ras: I mean, I'm inferior to Leo in basically every other way… I'd like to be superior at just one thing.

(Not a note, just a quick break to avoid hitting the character limit)

Does Ras do fortune telling? If he can, I'd like to see him divine what's going to happen to the other characters from here on. Neige: Your fortune telling is all fake anyway. Ras: No, it's not! Man, you're rude. Sure, I used some flattery and sweet talk, but I actually know a lot about divination. Neige: Hmph, I wonder. Ras: Here, I'll tell your fortune right now. Princess, yours is "the one you are waiting for will come from afar." Leo's is "take care not to lose what you have." And before long, Princess Nocsia might meet the one meant for her… Nocsia: Ooh. Neige: What? Ras: What's the matter, Princess, you feeling lonely about somebody taking away the big sister you finally got? Neige: Of course not!

Ras is friends with Neige now, but does he still have romantic feelings for her? Ras: Hmm, I dunno. Romantic feelings… I don't really understand what they're like in the first place.

Have you had any fun since you came to the castle? Ras: I have! Sometimes the princess comes to see me, and I've gradually been chatting with more and more people… Oh, and the food is great. I can get some even if I don't say a word, it's the best. Neige: You are absolutely hopeless at everything other than toxicology. Ras: Not everything…

Are you a loser? Ras: I'm not a loser! … Well, I want to get to the point where I can proudly say that, anyway.

Why is Neige so cute? (lol) Ras: Hmm, let's see. It's gotta be because she's so kind. She pushed herself to say what she really felt in order to help me, even though she's bad at that kind of thing. I thought it was great of her. Neige: Y-you're a little too open with your thoughts…

What's your favorite flower? Ras: A flower… I guess the ones I like because they're easy to make into poison don't count. Maybe white clover, I guess. I used to hate them, but I kinda like them now.

Say something loving to Neige! (lol) Ras: Loving? Now I'm embarrassed… Um, glad to know you. Neige: That's supposed to be "something loving"? Ras: Aww. Okay then, how about "wanna elope with me?" Neige: What would you even do if I said yes? Ras: What?! I'd... be at a loss...

Does Ras still love Neige? If he does, is it painful for him to watch Leo and the princess having fun together? Ras: I do love her… but it's not painful for me. After all, the princess seems like she still likes me, even after learning all about me. I'm satisfied just knowing that she cares about me. If anything, I get annoyed looking at the two of them, so I guess that's more of a problem for me.

(Note: I had some trouble parsing that last sentence in Ras' answer, so take it with a grain of salt.)

He doesn't have any more death flags… does he? (uneasy) Ras: I don't think so… (uneasy)

In the end, who does Ras really think is the older brother? Ras: Me! Definitely me! Neige: Everybody in the castle thinks you're the younger one. Ras: W-why? Neige: It's your fault for not bothering to talk to anyone but us. Ras: You… have a point.

What do you think about your grandfather? Ras: It was surprisingly easy to go back to the kind of relationship we had way back when. I'm kind of… no, I'm very happy about it. I just wish he'd stop hitting me with books.

I want Ras to be my bride. What should I do? Ras: But I'm a guy… Neige: You've got more people saying they want you for a bride than for a groom. Ras: I'd prefer it if they'd do a normal love confession…

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uughuhhhhgg *remembers Neige was directly in-dialogue compared to Rasphard in Snow White* uuuhhHJGJFGJ

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I love the Tsukasa and Nene ship, and it seems that you do too and I would like to know why? Because this ship doesn't seem to be very popular what attracted you to it? And do you think it's possible for this ship to happen in the manga? (Unfortunately seen from my point of view I don't think so, because Tsukasa seems so innocent for this to happen, besides he only thinks about Hanako-kun 😢)

Popularity or suggestions from others has little to do with what I ship; I read the work, I imbibe the story, and I ship things based on what I am intrigued by, or perceive, in the story. I don't tend to engage much with fandom when reading something first time, so I had no idea what was 'big' or what wasn't (I didn't look at the fandom at all until the Far Shore arc, where I only really suddenly glimpsed it because I was looking for Sumire/Hakubo stuff & was blindsided by other's dislike of Hakubo). For instance, the popularity of Mitsuba and Kou, and ?? Aoi and Nene ?? completely and utterly baffled me, I wouldn't have guessed people really cared about any of that. I came out of it only caring about the twins x Nene-chan.

As it is, it intrigued me early on that Amane can compare Nene-chan to Tsukasa. They share a lot in common, centrally their love of Amane. In canon and in AUs, Tsukasa often acts like a sort of informant, giving Nene-chan information. The canon itself gives me the impression he places a lot of trust on her, and likes her. The story itself lead me to asking questions about it, and its viability only kept increasing as I read. I went into this expecting to only like HanaNene, but, AmaTsuka became the next obvious thing, but then weirdly the final piece, TsuNene, felt like it started taking shape...

Yes, I think it's possible for the ship to happen. I think it's the point of a lot of threads and ideas… I really do believe that. There are enough comics, illustrations, and commentary from JP fandom that make me feel I am not the only one seeing it, either. It's just the American fandom is helpless.... I call myself delusional but like any good delusional person, I believe what I think is true.

I guess after playing Narisokonai Snow White especially-- wherein you spend half the game exploring the love between the Princess x one twin, and then the OTHER half of the game unraveling the love the OTHER twin feels for the Princess-- yet ultimately relinquishes her to his brother, who he feels the Princess loves truly and deserves to be with-- I'm, really convinced that it's not just my delusion, but the sort of multilayered love story intrigue Iro-sensei likes to tell. We have much more to learn about Tsukasa!

I don't think Tsukasa "only thinks about Hanako-kun". I think these sentiments are incredibly sincere:

and intentionally loaded. You don't get a single vibe from TsuNene scenes? Aren't these vibes why anyone ships it? Well, I get major vibes.... It's not like....... Teru x Natsuhiko, or, some other frivolous idea invented out of thin air. lol

It could be his love for Amane that makes him love Nene-chan; the only other person who can understand what it is like, to wish to die for Amane.

For him to be willing to let Nene-chan in on so much, and share so many precious moments with Amane, I feel he has to admire her.

Iro-sensei likes complex romantic intrigue!!! I can't say enough ... Narisokonai Snow White was so about the interplay between the cast of twins + a girl they both like. The Princess and Rasphard were similarly ill-behaved children, something the Ambrose family notes in the text. The Princess, who is already in love with Estelio, sees similarity between the twin boys. We use established love between individuals to implicate love all across the ships. As the player of the game, you can cause either twin to yandere out on the princess based on what choices you make....

I believe in twin romance supremacy. I think it is why we have twins + a girl.

I think it is Iro-sensei's fetish lol

Now what I will say is your thought of "Tsukasa is too innocent for it to happen" is kind of real, but you should give more credit, then, to Nene-chan, who could also make it happen... :) ;) I mean look at her as it is, chasing down Hanako all running away from her every few chapters....!

Maybe Tsukasa doesn't understand everything he feels or everything that could be possible! Amane also thought he didn't value anything, much less her life. Nene-chan teaches the boys many things about love~

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Heyyy ! I just wonder, I’m quite disappointed/worried because possessiveness seems depicted as romantic in the manga, and it makes me uncomfortable. What do you think about it ?

Personally, I think you should stop reading this manga, for your own good. Its like the fundamental bones of this manga are against you.

It's not only Jibaku Shounen; AidaIro's catalogue is loaded with possessive or 'yandere' scenes, and they are explicitly romantic. Narisokonai Snow White even does it on both sides of its master/servant relationship! My Dear Living Dead is bittersweet, and possessive to the extreme. Amane made Tsukasa his shrine object. Amane makes Nene his kannagi. That's the sort of person Amane is... across AUs, it's common to have more overt master/servant relationships or degrading of another's personhood... or a covetousness that takes all it pleases, whenever it pleases. AidaIro like yandere stories... !! They like the romance of possessiveness!

As for me, this sort of thing is exactly what I love and what I live for; diving into AidaIro's catalogue has made me SO excited for the directions this manga could go... and the themes trickle down into every relationship, weaving together a vision of unbreakable attachment (whether you want it or not!) and needy, desperate hearts. The extremes of love pushing otherwise selfless, self-sacrificing people finally into selfishness... it's glorious, RUINOUSLY DECADENT I would say!! AidaIro have honed such an art form in mindbreaking a dutiful boy who keeps his head down, until he's finally forced to act possessively (Akane, Hakubo, Cult, Estelio, Rasphard...) ....

People who ask for nothing, not even their own happiness, and then take everything!!!!! I could watch such an arc happen 1 million times and never get sick of it!!!!!!!!

But I do think it's almost... egregious, that people recommending the manga don't really note this theme-- even though I see people sometimes outright mention hating the directions of all the recent romances, there's not a lot of warning about......

you know. the way it is.

The climaxes of many ships have and aaaalmost certainly will continue to be possessive language and actions ... if anything, Amane's problem is not being honest about his feelings. His feelings, oh his feelings!!!!!! HIS AMAZING FEELINGS!!!!!

I love Amane! I want to see him express everything he's trying to hold back... I want to see him submit to his deepest urges, I want to see him break and show us what he really wants, and what he's willing to do to get it, to keep it!! I want Amane to be honest, even if it's ugly, even if it's scary. Even Nene-chan likes his possessiveness! She only wishes he'd admit to it. Amane is worried, or scared, or something, of his own feelings, he tries to escape ever having to talk about any of it!!

I'M EXCITED FOR THE FUTURE, I'M EXCITED FOR IT ALL!!!! I'm sorry it's uncomfortable for you, but you're reading the wrong manga .... it is going to reward characters doing and saying crazy things. And, it's going,, to believe they are being sexy and alluring the entire time they are doing them

like its always been!

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do you think yashiro nene is a fujoshi

Not at all, I actually think Nene is the most utterly normal straight girl LOL. She likes otome games where you are a protag dating a dozen cute boys or whatever, and in her fantasies, all boys are pointed at her and oggling her … she is just into a harem fantasy. It's all about how hot and impressive she is--!! In a way the boys in the harem interacting is like… too complicated, for early manga Nene? It's such a straightforward want to be desirable …

She has a more 'realistic' kind of fantasy outside of that, which she actively works towards-- where she alters her hobbies and vocations to appease a boy (and those vocations are things like learning to cook, sew, garden…)… and she ah, does deep down, understand she isn't conventionally desirable (TT__TT) so she has a submissive kind of brutal realist fantasy of, toiling or proving herself loyal to a boy through ah, subservience … (oh Nene-chan….)

I don't even think she… perceives … much between two boys, naturally, in the way a lot of people don't jump to that kind of assumption-- like, I don't think Nene perceives the layers between Mitsuba and Kou as romantic at all, thus far, in the story? Just that Mitsuba is a friend Kou wants badly to help. (Kou being interested in her romantically would make it confusing to parse, really)

If Nene liked BL, that would be funny for Hanako to observe and psychoanalyze (I assume the typical narrative of the ~delusional degraded girl left to rot into a fujoshi would just occur to him naturally, like damn girl, you've been alone for too long; your fantasies have become too convoluted lol), but instead he's only here to comment on and observe her thirsty fantasies where 10 guys line up for her, hahaha. He sees THAT and goes, pervert, lol…. dirty thought haver... lol...

he's charitable and pities her for wanting to be hot in a conventional way......…

In reality I think of her gradual observing of the Yugi twins and, wishing for them to resolve what is going on between them, as something she earnestly wants for them both-- ehr, platonically, initially, you know, just normally … their story is sad, and, they are brothers, they were important to one another, Hanako feels seemingly guilt and misery about the murder, so… Nene's likely-future-interest in them healing their bond, is as straightforward and sincere as Neige wanting to heal the Ambrose twins broken relationship in AidaIro's Snow White. It'll just become so obvious and apparent both parties are still loving and wanting the other. Hanako is so ah, avoidant, and Tsukasa so mysterious, that we're softly chipping away at Nene realizing, "Tsukasa is precious to Hanako".

Neige, in Snow White, observes the brother's sad pining for the other, and becomes straight up frustrated and yells at them about it, like, "NEITHER OF YOU HATE EACH OTHER, YOU BOTH WANT THE SAME THINGS, SO WHY IS IT LIKE THIS???" and she doesn't need any kind of interest in BL, you know? It's a sincere story, at first………

But actually that is why it's captivating to think of her organically… understanding, parsing, that there is, "more" going on under the surface…?

"Tsukasa is precious to Hanako" is step 1, not the final conclusion. And I also think that's the… point, of her and Hanako forming a romance, and all of this parallel between how avoidant and fussy he is towards Nene, and how avoidant and fussy he can be towards Tsukasa. I think, once Nene can truly understand, "Hanako loves me, but, he refuses to let himself have things he loves, because he is afraid, for some reason", she could see how he creates the same obscurity and distance between himself and Tsukasa. Hanako cannot say "I love you" directly to either of them … by having a romance with Hanako, she can directly experience the same foibles as Tsukasa.

Nene is really… interested in Hanako's emotions, fundamentally, she wants to 'know' him. She is trying to solve his behavior… her most spellbound moments are, when Hanako is distressed, upset, finally dropping his facade. I suppose I think it could gradually become apparent to her, or else, apparent all at once, that Hanako was in love with his brother, and, he doesn't know what to do about that, and, he's running from it, just like he runs from Nene over and over. Hanako never wants to confront anything. He doesn't want to talk about what Tsukasa makes him feel, or what happened between them, or why he did what he did (and does Hanako even fully understand?).

I think if you fed Nene information point blank early manga like, "hey, this guy who sexually harasses you is also a brocon", that wouldn't really be anything to her, not exciting or captivating on its own-- its not 'that kind of interest' in and of itself. But at this point, the mystique and secrets of Hanako are so DEEP and INSCRUTABLE, that she'd be grateful for any information. And at this point, "Hanako was in love with his twin brother" would would be more like, "ah… so thats why he wouldn't tell me anything, and that's why he's so secretive about him. That's a good reason. It must be confusing, even for him, to understand why he does anything, or what he wants with his brother." Literally anyone would keep that secret buried eternally.

After so long in the dark with Hanako, it'd be like a… relief, to, understand why the secrecy. Thus far, Nene has thought something like, "why doesn't he trust me?" or, "what is he so afraid of me finding out? What could be so bad, when he's already a murderer, and I already accept that? When I already accept him trying to have Aoi killed, or trying to trap me?" At that point, it's like, oh. Naruhodo. Also, of course he, can't, talk about it, he can't even talk about his FEELINGS FOR NENE, a NORMAL GIRL AND PERSON TO LIKE. Its like… I don't think considering the Yugi for Nene, is like, "hot" or "sexy" on first blush, it's more like…………….. ok, I get it, that would, cause problems, in one's life, and be difficult to cope with, and, ever talk about ………………………… its kind of not her fault then that he won't say anything, lol.

It's not like, "hot because it is two boys", it's not as if Nene has an established interest in that whatsoever-- though she has uh, an established "omg" its like its exotic to her or something, www...

tsuchigomori confirmed for homophobic -- it's, uh, alluring because of Hanako's intoxicating complexity and depth, and, well, she's a romantic… I think the romanticism of being born together and sharing every day, and then Tsukasa sacrificing himself to save his brother, and then Hanako's sacred belonging becoming his twin, to eternally protect, is, ehr, something that begs reverence and understanding by nature.

Though, I mean. Nene loves the fantasy of multiple guys (: so... (: I think twins is a very 'happy ending' for Nene-chan ... and I think relating to Tsukasa and being so similar to him, would make her feel more secure in how and why Hanako loves her... (: and I think, getting to eventually spectate the twins earnest love, would become.....................sexy.

Its like a corruption arc in a way. This innocent straight girl who wants a normal relationship with a guy is going to be swept into this crazy twin love story. And she is gonna. LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But you know. The protagonist of the Vampire Romance Novel is rarely reading about vampire romance all day long, its more of a, "I never thought something like this would happen to me", "I never thought my life would be like this" "I didn't ask for this" .................................. you don't think you'll wind up fucking twins .......................... and you don't think you'll love it so much and you don't think you'll love to see them finally kiss and consummate a decades long unspoken taboo love affair. You don't think that will be your life but then it is your life. And the previous fantasies were pointless and nothing. Useless generic young girl fantasies. This is, The Real Stuff.

This is the transformation of Nene-chan. Into Twin Lover. It's happening to many readers every day, as well. Many fans experience the same, "I wasn't into yaoi before...." or, "I don't really like twin stuff...." "BUT, the Yugi twins........................." that is the Nene-chan experience. Suddenly the only logical conclusion is that the twins must kiss, even if you never thought you'd want that sort of thing in your life. Nene-chan surely has not thought of it before.

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Oh! And one last thing--

Is this the face you meant? One fun thing about the snow white files is that they gave the character emotes their own titles... I am not sure if you ever saw them, but I like how this one is titled "samisii".... 寂しい..... I wouldn't think it at first, but I am definitely getting a samisii vibe from it!

I am not sure if this is the one you meant but I do really like the idea of Tsukasa making a face like this... it's very personal! He's sad to leave, maybe...

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I was actually thinking of how Neige describes his face in this horrible ending-- something like, there's so much more going on there than she can understand, because she doesn't remember meeting him at all, she doesn't understand the significance she holds to him, she doesn't know why or how he can look so distraught at her (in this route, where you barely talk to Rasphard, and hurt him terribly). Complete lack of any footholds, to parse this visible pain. An unknowable preciousness. Nene'd be in a similar position with Tsukasa, on the rooftop, launching tea at him lol...

BUT like not this extreme. lol. Overall Rasphard's ~samisii~ vibe, his smile that belies something much deeper going on, is the vibe I'm thinking about for that rooftop boy!

speculative nonsense though! But it feels significant that Nene reacts to a face we can't see.

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"Thank you for fully completing the game! I'm not good at writing, so I'll do a postscript with a picture of the twins…

If they were this close when they were little, that would be interesting… ♪

Looking forward to comments and fanwork! /// … I wonder if that's okay to say… yes it is! See you soon!" -Hano (Aida)

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and now..... le more discreet personal posting!

Of all things, actually... most moved to tears and incredibly wowed that Iro somehow did a very good and surprisingly respectful job depicting schizoid symptoms....? I don't talk about myself too much, in that manner, as it's of course personal, but suffice it to say I do have personal experience with that in particular aha..... and...

I'm actually not such a fussy person, I honestly enjoy a schlocky depiction as much as just about anyone-- I mean, you know-- I love yandere and romanticized or exaggerated extremes of such themes, I am in no way 'too good' for or even in any way offended by a more cursory or trope-ish depiction. Frankly I just like delusional thinking or unstable reality depicted, even if it's funny or in a horror element. And I mean that!! I have my no-nos and times it doesn't work like anyone, but I'm not fussy or snobbish about it overall, I can eat junk food ....

But.....! it's euphoriccccc when something handles it earnestly and with love...it touches my heart.... you know, delusions always have a logic to the person inside of them, even if outsiders see something inscrutable, there is a kind of legacy..... ah, Ras's 'break' is so beautifully and artfully handled... the imagery is in some odd way sublime... I really enjoyed the sense of serene, controlled quiet, before, as well... that period of time, that's so underrepresented..... that prodromal period. Him appearing, if anything, calmer, more studious, stilled.... before (to be true, that's also what I like about Amane immediately before the shinjuu... this oddly accepting atmosphere... a peaceful aura).

I love the catalyst. I love how terribly awful it all is, yet it amounts to visibly, Ras just sitting there silently. The presence of the vial lingering against him all day, the force-fed rat dying in its cage, the suicidal ideation projecting out, how completely incidentally tragic it is that this boy has a twin and a profound self-hatred, this too naturally mixing in his mind, as he can't get to know Lio enough to delineate them in his mind.... I like that it's not a matter of throwing himself all over or screaming, at its worst. He was if anything, noisier, cockier, fussier, louder, when doing 'better'.... when doing 'worse', everything washes away from him.

I really really reaaally loved it all folding in with his reading and learning, and then the nature of split-eggs for identical twins giving Ras this idea of "meant to be only one" not on a nefarious or malicious level, but on this.... level that feels like a logic, for someone so suicidal with such a bad life. Why is there two? What point is there in two being there?

I'm glad we get to hear so much from his own perspective.... but then, he has no ability at all to communicate any of this. Even if he tried to explain... it would only be, "that sounds crazy".

All of this said, it's made me incredibly excited for the possibilities for Tsukasa, at age 13 especially... like, Iro can really, write, this? I'd be so happy with just a yandere stan manga, but can I really have both my fun cumrot and my considerately thought out psychos....??? lol..... I'm just... touched....! More certain than ever that Iro has the power to kill me with bare hands lol....

I wonder if I am easy to please or what... hehe. well I like to be so easy to please if so..... glad for m'lil crazy guy....

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Alright. I'm gonna make fun of Lio until he dies now. The afterstory is too incriminating, you have such a problem……. my pity only goes so FAR Lio…..

Lio personally toiling for three years to be exclusively responsible for his brother's return because otherwise he imagines he's shackled himself to eternal unhappiness because . he has a complex of guilt and atonement surrounding him. Makes the endings he is steaming mad about Ras dying (END 4/5), and the ending Lio poisons Neige (END 6), egregious in a new way. IN a funny way, mind you, I LOVE it. Like this COULD NOT be more personal for you-- Ras REALLY IS 'leaving you on read'. But he doesn't know that, omfg. If he KNEW the invitation was from YOU and if YOU worded it personally in a manner that DESCRIBED YOUR FEELINGS FROM THE START, literally every single bad end of this game wouldn't HAPPEN, and Lio would get the outcome he wants, TOO. MY GOD. Its JUST like Amane-- YOU HAVE A COMMUNICATION ISSUE, SO HARD... I'm going to strangle you--!! You want Ras to just make the decisions that will culminate in your happiness, without ever having to BE outwardly vulnerable or reveal ANYTHING about yourself-- without having to reveal how you feel about him--!!!!!! BUT AS A RESULT, RAS FEELS LIKE A CRIMINAL FACING A WARRANT, not a beloved brother being begged to return--!! BY the person he hurt--!! THAT IS YOUR FAULT, LIO--!!!!! and nothing is enforcing this.... he's just not willing to be vulnerable and risk rejection, because he is a big baby, omfg. I love it. LIO-- ESTELIO, AMBROSE!

I know I know the life of conditioning I do I do .... but I legitimately think he takes it farther than necessary and tests it in other measures.... if he's willing to 'break' it far enough into obsessing on Ras's return, he could 'break' it 1 tiny inch further by just making the offer directly......

That you can go from trying so hard scrabbling for years to get everyone to forgive Ras and run all these papers and forms around, but then if Ras refuses to come you are like.. "HE DESERVES THE SHIT LIFE HE HAS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HE DID!!" is-- you really ARE like a goddamn jilted lover, oh my GOD. Because YOU'VE been obsessed with this for years, personally endeavoring to save Ras, you can say he deserves to suffer, if he refuses to return to see you ……………………… BUT YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO SAVE HIM FOR HIS OWN SAKE, you want to save him for --you--!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To have!!!! Because you're so miserable!!

Jesus. You're willing to risk so much to acquire this, too... and my God, how you essentially are responsible for Ras's life, all of his actions.... everything he does is to be owed towards you, good or bad..... FUCK. Jesus. Ohhhh. FUCK

In the ending Ras kills Neige and himself in END 3, it is... literally Lio's exclusive fault, AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH. So epic lol. Everyone will point at him for his bizarre, obsessive desperation towards Ras.... FUCK yes, what, what a miserable ending possibility! I LOVE IT! The ultimate price to pay for his sad longing, to have nothing at all.....! I can't help it, but it's sort of funny!

I think it's funny that Lio's concept of duty and the conditioning he went through has resulted in a complex surrounding his brother as if this is the ONLY person who could ever save him from his sadness, and understand him…. he's not forbidden to marry, or have a life! At least, even if the insane Ambrose family taught him otherwise, that isn't what is formally upon the books, and it's not expected of him to refuse. He thinks.. "but my brother might be able to understand my solitude, as another person living that life"…… he's put so many eggs in that basket that it's gonna drive him insane…..! It has so much POWER to drive him insane....!

There is such a point of "omg, your life is so sad but I can't pity you about this" which Amane hits, too, where truly for Lio and Amane it is like "………….. BUT NOBODY TOLD YOU TO LIE ALL DAY LONG….." … Amane could be honest with Nene, there could be some manner of progress… on the complex......... Lio could talk to Ras about how much he needs him here, Ras would be SO HAPPY to know Lio has been fighting for years and dreaming of their possibilities, that it was his exclusive task… PLEASE JUST TELL YOUR BROTHER HOW MUCH YOU LOVE HIM, BEFORE I HIT YOU WITH A RAKE….!

Lio is so. Has a LYING problem….. so does Amane!!! I understand why AidaIro are always like, "talk to the people around you, please" about Amane, aouaoauhu Lio, is literally out here like, "pleeaaase mindread me and figure out what I want" LIO it would be insane to understand you say the OPPOSITE of what you want…. it would be one thing to lie by omission about your little brother feefees…. BUT YOU ARE SAYING, THE OPPOSITE…. ! Whats more you're bullying him..... KISS YOUR STUPID BROTHER ALREADY YOU BIG DUMB ANIMAL

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cannot be helped, I must talk about my favorite line in the character Q&As..... to the best of my ability...... between Neige and Ras.... about Estelio....

・もっと照れていいのよ！…もっと照れていいのよ！！（2回目） 　　ラス「よし、リオを照れさせてみよう。日常的に」 　　ネージュ「難しいと思うわ。何よりあいつが赤面症とかだったら気持ち悪いわよ」 　　ラス「姫さん、言うね……結構」

something like....

・(directed at Lio) You should get embarrassed more! ... you should get embarrassed more!! (a 2nd time) Ras: Okay, lets embarrass Lio. Daily. Neige: I think that's going to be difficult. More importantly, it would be creepy/gross if that guy was blushing all the time. Ras: Princess, I have to say…….. that's fine.

fucking... get his ass...... I love Ras's phrasing, kinda like... "that's sufficient/that's okay/that's alright by me"..... lmao. Neige meanwhile using kimochi warui fkls;dgkg like ugh ew... nasty..... imagine Lio blushing all day... sick..... Ras is like "damn lol harsh....but," I love this dynamic sooo much, PLEAAAAASE band together to embarrass Lio..... come onnnnn

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outside of the document I can also post things like this

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BIRD was ASTUTE and wondered aloud if the Minamoto family is similar to the Ambrose in that…. a family which once was bottom-rung, rose to aristocracy through extreme sacrifice no one else was willing to make (including subjecting their own children to their system). A very Waternoose style "I'll kidnap a thousand children before I let this company die" policy, you know. The Ambrose family was not naturally aristocracy, the role of poison-tester poison-taster was either had by criminals or suicidal individuals consenting to martyrdom. I'm not sure what people did pre-Minamoto, or what 'started' the Minamoto.... we only know that 'the' one was considered defective (and he doesn't appear to ever use his lightning capabilities at all, suggesting he may not have had them, and was rejected by the family proper as a prospect, much like Kou [to a lesser extent]... while Tiara is elevated to a near-royal valuation due to being born with extremely powerful abilities).

As a result the Ambrose family is very no-nonsense with upkeeping their traditions to maintain their relative empire, which can only exist so long as it subjugates its own members. Sounds pretty Minamoto-like! They held power in their community, but in a role that required them to place themselves in constant danger, to maintain it.

Always wondering about the Minamoto's fangies and lightning powers. Maybe it's simply that being completely and utterly devoted to safety and protection is all you could offer in order to not be ejected. A foothold for a family that perhaps wasn't always doing well. Children become fodder in this sort of situation. You can condition them towards anything.

the missing piece for me is if the Minamoto... MADE... themselves this messed up and, kaii-infused ... ? or if they were naturally a sortof mix and feared/rejected (and compensated by becoming kaii-slayers to prove their trust against preexisting prejudice). I could see either being true. Like I could see these desperate, maybe poverty-stricken people feeding babies oni blood and testing out what 'takes' and what doesn't, how well their bodies accept and embrace it, and over time you just naturally emerge with the most ultimately compatible blood as infants die or don't. Or idk, can a person naturally be slightly kaii, how would that work? Would we dare introduce hybrids to this madness, it feels antithetical to how they 'work' to ME but, we know nothing lol so it's all conjecture. I'm a fan of babies being subjected to kaii blood and organs, like a drop at a time and gradually increasing. Teru could be foreshadowing that with the horrible pizza, and being the one to explain kaii consumption to endow powers. None of this is meaningful though </3 just proposing nonsense </3