#apologies to my girlfriend for not including carole queen in this post

[star-anise]

do you have any sources on the claims you made? im always willing to change my stance if you have legitimate backing for it haha

So first, I’m sorry for blowing up at you the way that I did. I’m not proud that I reacted in such a kneejerk, aggressive fashion. Thank you for being open to hearing what I have to say. I’m sorry for mistaking you for a TERF, and I’m sorry my response has caused other people to direct their own hostility towards you.

So, here’s the thing. “You can’t call bi women femmes” is pretty intrinsically a radfem thing to say, and I am deeply opposed to letting radfems tell me what to do. I’m trying to write this during a weekend packed with childcare and work. I’ll try to hit all the high notes.

The one thing I am having trouble finding is the longass post I talked about in my reply, that was a history of butch/femme relationships in lesbian bars, which had frequent biphobic asides and talked about “the lesbophobic myth of the bi-rejecting lesbian”; the friend who reblogged it without reading it thoroughly has deleted it, and I can’t find it on any of the tags she remembers looking at around that time. If anyone can find it, I’ll put up a link.

As far as possible, I’m linking to really widely accessible sources, because you shouldn’t intrinsically trust a random post on Tumblr as secret privileged knowledge. People have talked about this at length in reputable publications that your local library either has, or can get through interlibrary loan; you can look up any of the people here, read their work, and decide for yourself. This is a narrative of perspectives, and while I obviously have a perspective, many people disagree with me. At the end of the day, the only reason I need for calling bi women femmes is that You Are Not The Boss Of Me. There is no centralized authority on LGBT+ word usage, nor do I think there should be. Hopefully this post will give you a better sense of what the arguments are, and how to evaluate peoples’ claims in the future.

I looked up “butch” and “femme” with my library’s subscription to the Oxford English Dictionary because that’s where you find the most evidence of etymology and early use, and found:

“Femme” is the French word for “woman”.  It’s been a loanword in English for about 200 years, and in the late 19th century in America it was just a slangy word for “women”, as in, “There were lots of femmes there for the boys to dance with”

“Butch” has been used in American English to mean a tough, masculine man since the late 19th century; in the 1930s and 1940s it came to apply to a short masculine haircut, and shortly thereafter, a woman who wore such a haircut. It’s still used as a nickname for masculine cis guys–my godfather’s name is Martin, but his family calls him Butch. By the 1960s in Britain, “butch” was slang for the penetrating partner of a pair of gay men.

Butch/femme as a dichotomy for women arose specifically in the American lesbian bar scene around, enh, about the 1940s, to enh, about the 1960s. Closet-keys has a pretty extensive butch/femme history reader. This scene was predominantly working-class women, and many spaces in it were predominantly for women of colour. This was a time when “lesbian” literally meant anyone who identified as a woman, and who was sexually or romantically interested in other women. A lot of the women in these spaces were closeted in the rest of their lives, and outside of their safe spaces, they had to dress normatively, were financially dependent on husbands, etc. Both modern lesbians, and modern bisexual women, can see themselves represented in this historical period.

These spaces cross-pollinated heavily with ball culture and drag culture, and were largely about working-class POC creating spaces where they could explore different gender expressions, gender as a construct and a performance, and engage in a variety of relationships. Butch/femme was a binary, but it worked as well as most binaries to do with sex and gender do, which is to say, it broke down a lot, despite the best efforts of people to enforce it. It became used by people of many different genders and orientations whose common denominator was the need for safety and discretion. “Butch” and “femme” were words with meanings, not owners.

Lesbianism as distinct from bisexuality comes from the second wave of feminism, which began in, enh, the 1960s, until about, enh, maybe the 1980s, maybe never by the way Tumblr is going. “Radical” feminism means not just that this is a new and more exciting form of feminism compared to the early 20th century suffrage movement; as one self-identified radfem professor of mine liked to tell us every single lecture, it shares an etymology with the word “root”, meaning that sex discrimination is at the root of all oppression.

Radical feminism blossomed among college-educated women, which also meant, predominantly white, middle- or upper-class women whose first sexual encounters with women happened at elite all-girls schools or universities. Most of these women broke open the field of “women’s studies” and the leading lights of radical feminism often achieved careers as prominent scholars and tenured professors.

Radical feminism established itself as counter to “The Patriarchy”, and one of the things many early radfems believed was, all men were the enemy. All men perpetuated patriarchy and were damaging to women. So the logical decision was for women to withdraw from men in all manner and circumstances–financially, legally, politically, socially, and sexually. “Political lesbianism” wasn’t united by its sexual desire for women; many of its members were asexual, or heterosexual women who decided to live celibate lives. This was because associating with men in any form was essentially aiding and abetting the enemy.

Look, I’ll just literally quote Wikipedia quoting an influential early lesbian separatist/radical feminist commune: “The Furies recommended that Lesbian Separatists relate “only (with) women who cut their ties to male privilege” and suggest that “as long as women still benefit from heterosexuality, receive its privileges and security, they will at some point have to betray their sisters, especially Lesbian sisters who do not receive those benefits”“

This cross-pollinated with the average experience of WLW undergraduates, who were attending school at a time when women weren’t expected to have academic careers; college for women was primarily seen as a place to meet eligible men to eventually marry. So there were definitely women who had relationships with other women, but then, partly due to the pressure of economic reality and heteronormativity, married men. This led to the phrase LUG, or “lesbian until graduation”, which is the kind of thing that still got flung at me in the 00s as an openly bisexual undergrad. Calling someone a LUG was basically an invitation to fight.

The assumption was that women who marry men when they’re 22, or women who don’t stay in the feminist academic sphere, end up betraying their ideals and failing to have solidarity with their sisters. Which seriously erases the many contributions of bi, het, and ace women to feminism and queer liberation. For one, I want to point to Brenda Howard, the bisexual woman who worked to turn Pride from the spontaneous riots in 1969 to the nationwide organized protests and parades that began in 1970 and continue to this day. She spent the majority of her life to a male partner, but that didn’t diminish her contribution to the LGBT+ community.

Lesbian separatists, and radical feminists, hated Butch/Femme terminology. They felt it was a replication of unnecessarily heteronormative ideals. Butch/femme existed in an LGBT+ context, where gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgender people understood themselves to have more in common with each other than with, say, cis feminists who just hated men more than they loved women. 

The other main stream of feminist thought at the time was Liberal Feminism, which was like, “What if we can change society without totally rejecting men?” and had prominent figures like Gloria Steinem, who ran Ms magazine. Even today, you’ll hear radfems railing against “libfems” and I’m like, my good women, liberal feminism got replaced thirty years ago. Please update your internal schema of “the enemy”

Lesbian separatism was… plagued by infighting. To maintain a “woman-only” space, they had to kick out trans women (thus, TERFs), women who slept with men (thus, biphobia), women who enjoyed kinky sex or pornography or engaged in sex work (thus, SWERFS) and they really struggled to raise their male children in a way that was… um… anti-oppressive. (I’m biased; I know people who were raised in lesbian separatist communes and did not have great childhoods.) At the same time, they had other members they very much wanted to keep, even though their behaviour deviated from the expected program, so you ended up with spectacles like Andrea Dworkin self-identifying as a lesbian despite being deeply in love with and married to a self-identified gay man for twenty years, despite beng famous for the theory that no woman could ever have consensual sex with a man, because all she could ever do was acquiesce to her own rape.

There’s a reason radical feminism stopped being a major part of the public discourse, and also a reason why it survives today: While its proponents became increasingly obsolete, they were respected scholars and tenured university professors. This meant people like Camille Paglia and Mary Daly, despite their transphobia and racism, were considered important people to read and guaranteed jobs educating young people who had probably just moved into a space where they could meet other LGBT people for the very first time. So a lot of modern LGBT people (including me) were educated by radical feminist professors or assigned radical feminist books to read in class.

The person I want to point to as a great exemplar is Alison Bechdel, a white woman who discovered she was a lesbian in college, was educated in the second-wave feminist tradition, but also identified as a butch and made art about the butch/femme dichotomy’s persistence and fluidity. You can see part of that tension in her comic; she knows the official lesbian establishment frowns on butch/femme divisions, but it’s relevant to her lived experience.

What actually replaced radical feminism was not liberal feminism, but intersectional feminism and the “Third Wave”. Black radical feminists, like Audre Lorde, bell hooks, and Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw, pointed out that many white radical feminists were ignoring race as a possible cause of oppression, and failing to notice how their experiences differed from Black womens’. Which led to a proliferation of feminists talking about other oppressions they faced: Disabled feminists, Latina feminists, queer feminists, working-class feminists. It became clear that even if you eliminated the gender binary from society, there was still a lot of bad shit that you had to unlearn–and also, a lot of oppression that still happened in lesbian separatist spaces.

I’ve talked before about how working in women-only second-wave spaces really destroyed my faith in them and reinforced my belief in intersectional feminism

Meanwhile, back in the broader queer community, “queer” stuck as a label because how people identified was really fluid. Part of it is that you learn by experience, and sometimes the only way to know if something works for you is to try it out, and part of it is that, as society changed, a lot more people became able to take on new identities without as much fear. So for example, you have people like Pat Califia, who identified as a lesbian in the 70s and 80s, found far more in common with gay leather daddies than sex-negative lesbians, and these days identifies as a bisexual trans man.

Another reason radical feminists hate the word “queer”, by the way, is queer theory, which wants to go beyond the concept of men oppressing women, or straights oppressing gays, but to question this entire system we’ve built, of sex, and gender, and orientation. It talks about “queering” things to mean “to deviate from heteronormativity” more than “to be homosexual”. A man who is married to a woman, who stays at home and raises their children while she works, is viewed as “queer” inasmuch as he deviates from heteronormativity, and is discriminated against for it.

So, I love queer theory, but I will agree that it can be infuriating to hear somebody say that as a single (cis het) man he is “queer” in the same way being a trans lesbian of colour is “queer”, and get very upset and precious about being told they’re not actually the same thing. I think that actually, “queer as a slur” originated as the kind of thing you want to scream when listening to too much academic bloviating, like, “This is a slur! Don’t reclaim it if it didn’t originally apply to you! It’s like poor white people trying to call themselves the n-word!” so you should make sure you are speaking about a group actually discriminated against before calling them “queer”. On the other hand, queer theory is where the theory of “toxic masculinity” came from and we realized that we don’t have to eliminate all men from the universe to reduce gender violence; if we actually pay attention to the pressures that make men so shitty, we can reduce or reverse-engineer them and encourage them to be better, less sexist, men.

But since radfems and queer theorists are basically mortal enemies in academia, radical feminists quite welcomed the “queer as a slur” phenomenon as a way to silence and exclude people they wanted silenced and excluded, because frankly until that came along they’ve been losing the culture wars.

This is kind of bad news for lesbians who just want to float off to a happy land of only loving women and not getting sexually harrassed by men. As it turns out, you can’t just turn on your lesbianism and opt out of living in society. Society will follow you wherever you go. If you want to end men saying gross things to lesbians, you can’t just defend lesbianism as meaning “don’t hit on me”; you have to end men saying gross things to all women, including bi and other queer women.  And if you do want a lesbian-only space, you either have to accept that you will have to exclude and discriminate against some people, including members of your community whose identities or partners change in the future, or accept that the cost of not being a TERF and a biphobe is putting up with people in your space whose desires don’t always resemble yours.

Good god, this got extensive and I’ve been writing for two hours.

So here’s the other thing.

My girlfriend is a femme bi woman. She’s married to a man.

She’s also married to two women.

And dating a man.

And dating me (a woman).

When you throw monogamy out the window, it becomes EVEN MORE obvious that “being married to a man” does not exclude a woman from participation in the queer community as a queer woman, a woman whose presentation is relevant in WLW contexts. Like, this woman is in more relationships with women at the moment than some lesbians on this site have been in for their entire lives.

You can start out with really clear-cut ideas about “THIS is what my life is gonna be like” but then your best friend’s sexual orientation changes, or your lover starts to transition, and things in real life are so much messier than they look when you’re planning your future. It’s easy to be cruel, exclusionary, or dismissive to people you don’t know; it’s a lot harder when it’s people you have real relationships with.

And my married-to-a-man girlfriend? Uses “butch” and “femme” for reasons very relevant to her queerness and often fairly unique to femme bi women, like, “I was out with my husband and looking pretty femme, so I guess they didn’t clock me as a queer” or “I was the least butch person there, so they didn’t expect me to be the only one who uses power tools.” Being a femme bi woman is a lot about invisibility, which is worth talking about as a queer experience instead of being assumed to exclude us from the queer community.

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Closing out 2018 in Shadowhunters news, updates, sneak peeks, and behind the scenes. All the stuff you need to stay up to date.

Official Promotion

The one and only Magnus on day 17 of #25DaysOfTeasers. #Shadowhunters 

Vampire stare down. Day 18 of #25DaysOfTeasers. #Shadowhunters

Yup, that was as awkward as we imagined it would be. Ollie meets her first #Shadowhunters in this deleted scene from Season 3 Episode 3. Day 18 of #25DaysOfTeasers. 

This beauty on day 19 of #25DaysOfTeasers. #Shadowhunters 

Working or Christmas shopping? Day 20 of #25DaysOfTeasers. #Shadowhunters 

We’re glad the Owl is no longer on the prowl #Shadowhunters

If anyone can charm Lorenzo, it would be Izzy. Deleted scene from #Shadowhunters Season 3 Episode 9. Day 20 of #25DaysOfTeasers. 

Together again. Jace & Aline behind the scenes of #Shadowhunters Season 3B on day 21 of #25DaysOfTeasers. 

.@EW shares an exclusive first look at the February 25 premiere of #Shadowhunters Season 3B. 

ICYMI: The hunt for Clary is on. Thanks @EW for this #Shadowhunters final season first look. #ShadowhuntersLegacy 

Yes, they're talking about Simon. Day 22 of #25DaysOfTeasers. #Shadowhunters 

We don't know which is worse, facing the Soul Sword or Consul Penhallow.  😬 Deleted scene between Clary and Jia from #Shadowhunters Season 3 Episode 8. Day 22 of #25DaysOfTeasers.

ICYMI: here’s your first look at Jonathan Morgenstern in #Shadowhunters Season 3B. Thanks to @TVLine for the exclusive. 

And you were worried about meeting your significant other’s parents. #Shadowhunters

Siblings being siblings. Day 23 of #25DaysOfTeasers. #Shadowhunters 

#ShadowFam dad reppin’. #ShadowhuntersLegacy 

No mistletoe needed. #Malec on day 24 of #25DaysOfTeasers. #Shadowhunters 

Maryse shows her concern for Alec in this deleted scene from #ShadowhuntersSeason3 Episode 10. Day 24 of #25DaysOfTeasers. 

Merry Christmas, #ShadowFam! Day 25 of #25DaysOfTeasers. The final episodes of #Shadowhunters begin Monday, February 25 on @FreeformTV. 

FreeformTV tweeted: The wait is almost over...the final episodes of @ShadowhuntersTV begin Monday, February 25. 

This smile = instant mood boost. Behind the scenes of #Shadowhunters. 

Luke is all of us trying to work between Christmas and New Years. #Shadowhunters 

Izzy & Alec behind the scenes of #Shadowhunters Season 3B. 

It may not have been the will of the angels, but it was Clary’s. Stream #Shadowhunters now on @Hulu 

Alec will always look after his #Parabatai #Shadowhunters

Simon’s Hunter’s Moon performance in #ShadowhuntersSeason3. Stream it now on @Hulu 

Queen. What was your favorite Lilith moment in #Shadowhunters Season 3A

Shadowhunters In The News

Entertainment Weekly (article):  Luke and Jace search for Clary in Shadowhunters final season first look 

TVLine (article):  Shadowhunters Welcomes the 'Real' Jonathan Morgenstern in Season 3B (2019 FIRST LOOK) 

Just Jared Jr. (article):  Jace & Simon Are Having a Really Hard Time Without Clary in First 'Shadowhunters' Promo For Final Season 

TVLine (article):  Shadowhunters Promo: Jace Blames Himself for Clary's Death in Season 3B 

BuzzFeed (article): Pick Your Fave Desserts And We'll Tell You Which Shadowhunters Character You Are 

Girlfriend (article):  Freeform just confirmed the WORST news about 'Shadowhunters' in the shadiest way ever

The Geekiary (article):  Freeform Issues Weak Apology After Mocking “Shadowhunters” Fans in Disappointing Move

Bleeding Cool (article):  Angry Shadowhunters Fans Tell Freeform It’s Too Soon…Too Soon

ComicBook.com (article):  Freeform Trolls 'Shadowhunters' Fans With 'Toy Story' Broadcast, Prompting Backlash

TV Guide (article):  Freeform Pokes Fun at Shadowhunters Fans for Trying to Save the Show

TV Line (article): 2018 in Review: TV's Workaholics — Connie Britton, Johnny Galecki, Mckenna Grace and 22 More Actors

Meaww Entertainment (article): Shadowhunters' Magnus Bane is a sassy, powerful LGBTQ+ icon made more relatable with a tragic past and inherent flaws

PRIDE (article): 13 Geeky AF LGBT Shows You Can Stream Right Now

Just Jared Jr (article): Katherine McNamara tweets about wanting to be on ‘Chilling Adventures of Sabrina’ & fans are here for it

Just Jared Jr (article): The top 15 TV shows on JustJaredJr shouldn’t surprise anyone

Tell Tale TV (article): 30 Favorite Couples from 2018

Meaww Entertainment (article): 'Shadowhunters': Jace Herondale's melancholic backstory makes him more mysterious than his dashing looks and cold exterior

Deadline Hollywood (article): Freeform Buys ‘Scare Club’ Drama From Matt Hastings

Matt Carter (article): Shadowhunters Season 3 Episode 11 spoilers: The search for Clary

Digital Spy (article): Shadowhunters season 3, episode 11 gets first-look picture as series boss hints at show's ending

Pop Sugar (article): Its official, this was the best TV couple of 2018

TV Guide (article):  Winter TV 2019: A Guide to All Your Returning Favorites

TV Insider (article): 10 TV shows we’ll be sad to see end in 2019

Meaww Entertainment (article): 'Shadowhunters' season 3B first look: Clary is on everyone's mind as Luke and Jace kick off a search party

Hidden Remote (article): Shadowhunters Season 3B: Jacky Lai to play Aline Penhallow

The Series Regular (article): ‘Shadowhunters:’ Christmas Carols With Our Characters

Matt Carter (article): Shadowhunters season 3: New photo of Luke Baines’ Jonathan

Digital Spy (article): Shadowhunters’ final season unveils a first look at Luke Baines as the real Jonathan Morgenstern.

The Fandom (article): Entertainment Weekly releases Shadowhunters first look

Meaww Entertainment (article): ‘Shadowhunters’ Clary Fray is a ray of hope for anyone niggled by self-doubt and struggling to fit in

Matt Carter (article): Shadowhunters season 3 teaser: Jace struggles, lashes out

Cosmopolitan (article): Everything to know about ‘Shadowhunters’ Season 3B and finale event 

Buzzfeed (quiz): Everyone’s personality matches a ‘Shadowhunters’ character - here’s yours

Pure Fandom (article): ‘Shadowhunters’: Looking back at Pandemonium Con

Matt Carter (article): Shadowhunters season 3 video: Magnus’ morning without magic

Meaww Entertainment (article): ‘Shadowhunters’ Alec Lightwood is a stark portrayal of the boundaries people can cross and the limitations they can overcome

Just Jared Jr (article): Jace & Simon are having a really hard time without Clary in first ‘Shadowhunters’ promo for final season

Meaww Entertainment (article): ‘Shadowhunters’ Simon Lewis is a wholesome, geeky vampire who also managed to beat the friendzone

Hypable (article): ‘Shadowhunters’ Season 3B: Piecing together all the teasers

Just Jared Jr (article): JJJ’s top actors of 2018 are all tall, dark, and handsome--see the full list!

Meaww Entertainment (article): Did Freeform just troll Shadowhunters fans again? Network uses hit show tagline for new project ‘Siren’

TV Fanatic (article): 23 Most Headscratching Cancellations of 2018

Nerds & Beyond (article): New trailer and Images released for second half of season three of ‘Shadowhunters’

Spoiler TV (article): Year end Stats-Facts and Figures from 2018-Most popular shows, post, videos, and more

Tell Tale TV (article): 26 Fantastic Sci-Fi, Fantasy, and Horror TV Shows from 2018

Matt Carter (video): The five most surprising cancellations of 2018

Tell Tale TV (article): 30 Favorite TV Couples from 2018

Entertainment Tonight (video): #Bughead, #Lyatt, #Choni...we can’t get enough of these steamy smooches of 2018! We fearlessly stan each and EVERY one of these lip-locking moments and look forward to plenty more in 2019. Did your faves make the list?

Meaww Entertainment (article): ‘Shadowhunters’ Maia Roberts is a symbol of radical values coming together as a sexy werewolf bartender

Matt Carter (article): Shadowhunters season 3: New Alec-Izzy behind-the-scenes tease

Matt Carter (article): CarterMatt Awards 2018: Shadowhunters’ Malec wins best Couple!

TV Insider (article): 10 shows that surged in popularity in 2018

TV Line (article): TV shows ending in 2019: Jane, Thrones, and More--Which will you miss the most?

Meaww Entertainment (article): ‘Shadowhunters’: Mushy, yet spicy ‘Malec’ action unfolds in new teaser for season 3B

Hidden Remote (article): Shadowhunters season 3B teasers: Where in the world is Clary?

KSiteTV (article): KSiteTV’s Top 18 Shows of 2018

Film Daily (article): True Love’s Kiss: A scorching ranking of Malec’s hottest ‘Shadowhunters’ scenes

Film Daily (article): All the shows cancelled this year (and if they deserved it).

Twitter & Social Media Stuff

Brian Hui (makeup artist) tweeted: Snowshoes and smiles! Right ⁦@DomSherwood1⁩ ? #shadowhunters3B

Brian Hui (makeup artist) tweeted: ⁦@AnnaBananaHops⁩ you reminded me about the glory of those Lilith nails!

Darren Swimmer (showrunner) tweeted: Magic 8-ball says: The Shadowhunters family is not to be "toyed" with.  Freeform execs have personally and sincerely appologized to @Toddzer1 and I for the Toy Story debacle and we accept their apologies

Anna Hopkins (Lilith) tweeted: Wowee! I mean I like to have fun too though. Thank you for including me on this list!! And for using a pic of #Lilith #Shadowhunters #Shadowfam #theexpanse #Killjoys #badblood

Luke Baines (Jonathan Morgenstern): Funniest part about this scene: it’s the actual cafeteria at the SH studio so we had to eat lunch in a hallway.

Matt Hastings (showrunner) responded to a fan tweet: I’m ok. Know this: we love and respect you. Without this fearless fandom the show simply wouldn’t exist. So proud to be a part of it.

Alberto Rosende (Simon) tweeted: I’m very proud of our bookclub! Thank you @ritawarrazzo for the writeup. I hope #RosendeReads countinues to be a place of learning, growth, and fun. 

Johnathan Ho (Brother Zachariah): SURPRISE I DID A THING!! Watch me attempt my VERY FIRST GINGERBREAD HOUSE (spoiler alert: it doesn't go as smoothly as I'd expected...). Tune in to @FanCityTV's YouTube channel TOMORROW for the hilarity and shenanigans!

Jade Hassoune (Meliorn): I know you want juicy spoilers. So... **SPOILER** #Meliorn has a new weapon. and he’s a happy child. — #Shadowhunters returns Feb25 on freeform and Feb26th on #Netflix worldwide!!! — — #themortalinstruments #seelie #faerie #FaerieKnight #elf lyfe. — @Netflix_CA

Katherine McNamara (Clary): Throwing my pointy black hat in the ring for next season of #ChillingAdventuresOfSabrina... or the next production of The Crucible - either works - I’m feeling witchy... @sabrinanetflix @tiltedmagazine #wednesdaywitchdom ;)

Katherine McNamara (Clary): Haha to be clear... I have not been cast in #CAOS... I’m just a fan and I couldn’t resist with the resemblance of the pic. #wannabewitch

Alexandra Ordolis (Ollie): this was such a fun scene to shoot! Playing it cool is not in Ollie’s vocabulary. #Shadowhunters #25DaysOfTeasers

Luke Baines (Johnathan): Duh. #Shadowunters fans are the best. EVERY TIME

Jade Hassoune (Meliorn): A polaroid I took of the thousand you, on stage in #Milan this past summer. Remember? #tbt #itainstitutecon2 @ITAInstituteCon  @Kinetic_Vibe   — #shadowhunters #fandom

Katherine McNamara (Clary) posts a photo from her childhood: Some things never change... #spoonfulofsugar #tistheseason

Taylor Mallory (writer):  [Speaking Spanish] Izzy: This blade is worthy of a king. (rey = king = his last name, zing!) Lorenzo: How generous... and unexpected.

Javier Munoz (Lorenzo Rey):  #TBT while simultaneously looking towards February like.... @ShadowhuntersTV #LorenzoRey Can. Not. Wait. #shadowhuntersseason3

Sydney Meyers (Helen Blackthorn):  Eileen is one of my oldest and dearest friends so I'm sorry for any confusion our genuine friendship caused. With that said, Jacky and Eileen know each other, it's all love over here

Sydney Meyers (Helen Blackthorn):  Welcome @hijackylai!!! she's a firecracker in all the best ways

Todd Slavkin (showrunner) tweeted:  Helen and Aline BTS ⁦@meyers48⁩  ⁦@hijackylai⁩  #dancingshadowhunters #putyourswordsdown #Shadowhunters #3b

Jonathon Ho (Brother Zachariah): You haven't seen the last of me yet! Brother Snackariah will be making a couple more appearances in 3B

Jacky Lai (Aline Penhallow) shares a photo on Instagram:  Aline Penhallow is coming for you #2019 #Shadowhunters

Luke Baines (Jonathan Morgenstern) responded to some fan questions:

Honestly, I did a lot bc he’s such a big character & Will played him so perfectly that I didn’t want to ruin that. Aside from reading, watching the show, other research, I worked with a criminologist who helped me better understand the psyche of a person who was raised as JCM was

I’m really interested to know what you all will think of 3x17... we worked really hard on it and it reveals a lot about Jonathan.

Not the scripts, but the call sheet which is a document that production sends out the night before shooting so you know what time to arrive on set and what scenes you’re filming.

I did not. I’m annoyingly serious on set. Also I spent most of 3B crying, so there wasn’t much time. 

Shame it’s gonna be undone when you see me terrorize the cast. #RememberThisFeeling

Katherine McNamara (Clary) tweeted a photo: Truth or Dare

Luke Baines (Johnathan):  ERCHOMAI: I am coming

Brian Hui (makeup artist) shared a photo: “Hmm, are you thinking about more than just chestnuts roasting over an open fire @LukeBaines ? #Shadowhunters

Taylor Mallory (writer) responded to a fan question: There’s a reason for the change! Book Val has white blonde hair so book Jon’s hair is a visual signifier of his Morgenstern blood. But bc flashbacks establish TV Val as brunette, TV Jon’s red hair is a stricking indicator of his blood connection to the family-and Clary. #BTS

Katherine McNamara (Clary) shares a photo: Mirror mirror on the wall...@lukebaines #Erchomai #ShadowhuntersLegacy

Luke Baines (Johnathan): Thanks Feri! Team work makes the dream work

Katherine McNamara (Clary): A little early holiday treat for you angels...@lukebaines and I building sibling rapport. I give you #MorgensternMindMeld! #Headsup @theellenshow #ShadowhuntersLegacy #ShadowhuntersTV

Katherine McNamara (Clary): Holiday fitness...Just roll with it 

Todd Slavkin (Showrunner): We only had 42 minutes for each episode, not a second longer. Luckily, these scenes live on through social media #merryxmas #whendoogiehowsermdasksyouanswer #motherandson #moretocome #Shadowhunters

Todd Slavkin (Showrunner): Merry Xmas to the best fandom in television #lilithandmagnus #holidayinedom #shadowhunters

Todd Slavkin (Showrunner): Cheers to you and your loved ones #happyholidays #fromourfamilytoyours #shadowhunters #3B

Katherine McNamara (Clary) tweeted: Have yourselves a merry little christmas, angels! We’ll see you soon! FEB 25th! @ShadowhuntersTV #25DaysofTeasers #ShadowhuntersLegacy

Luke Baines (Johnathon) tweeted: If you’re wondering how @DomSherwood1 went punching that mirror...it went great Really well. But it’s chill, we found medicine. 

Dominic Sherwood (Jace) tweeted: Hahahaha. He’s not wrong folks.

Dominic Sherwood (Jace) tweeted: Mum?

Sydney Meyer (Helen Blackthorn) tweeted: Merry Christmas from #Heline! (And also apparently prom?

Katherine McNamara (Clary) tweeted: Happy Christmas to all and to all a good night...Visions of sugarplums or food coma? Either way-I’m happy. Surrounded by family, food, and film. Wishing you and yours love and joy this holiday.

Brian Hui (makeup artist) responded to a fan question: Luke and I decided that Johnathan would be obsessed with Clary so he would have a lot of the same ones as hers but all slightly askew. He also has some of Jace’s but a mirror image (like the speed) on his neck. Shh, secrets!!!

Dominic Sherwood (Jace) tweeted: Thank you very much @richarddennen​ and tatlermagazine for including me. This was a lot of fun with some really great folks.

Dominic Sherwood (Jace) tweeted: Totally candid. They just caught me turning up. @richarddennen​ and tatlermagazine Thank you!

Katherine McNamara (Clary) tweeted: When you realize the holiday leftovers are all gone... #FrayFriday #ShadowhuntersLegacy @ShadowhuntersTV #FBF 

Brian Hui (makeup artist) tweeted: Let’s have a little throwback BTS with two lovely ladies! Right @AnnaBananaHops @aleyordolis ? #Shadowhunters

Taylor Mallory (writer) explained: Each episode is broken down scene by scene by the whole writers room! Then one writer goes off to write the outline & script. Both documents get lots of notes from the room, showrunners, network, & producers; the writer is in charge of implementing them! #Collectiveprocess

Katherine McNamara (Clary): Tryna get my fit together...thanks to @nuno_salles for kicking my ass on the daily! #progress

Katherine McNamara (Clary) congratulated Dom (Jace) and Greg Sulkin on gracing the cover of Tatler magazine 

Arianna Williams (Madzie): Dom & me #sweetride #memories #Shadowhunters

Anna Hopkins (Lilith): I’m loving all your answers. Whether it was “all of them I’m gay for her” or “none, I wanted her to burn and die every second she was on screen.” I love you all and am proud of you and miss you!! #disciples #shadowfam #Shadowhunters #ShadowhuntersLegacy #Lilith

Katherine McNamara (Clary) wishes Steve Byers (Underhill) a happy birthday.

Katherine McNamara (Clary) posted a photo of herself with the caption “Daydream with me...”

Emeraude Toubia (Izzy) posted a photo of her with Prince Royce

Matthew Daddario (Alec) posted a photo announcing his wedding last year with the caption “Gotta be able to do all three! Happy One year! Happy New Year!”

Esther Kim (Matthew Daddario’s wife) posted a photo announcing their one year anniversary with the caption “Happy Anniversary gonna be hard to top last year’s celebrations!”. 

Alisha Wainwright (Maia): 2018 was intense. I’m happy to come out the other side with a sense of possibility and gratitude. Dream big. Happy new year. 

Katherine McNamara (Clary) posted a photo with Will Tudor (Jonathon Morganstern/Sebastian Verlac) at her New Years eve celebration with the caption “Ringing in 2019 with these dapper gents! #HappyNewYear to one and all!”

Arianna Williams (Madzie) posted some photos of herself from 2018 with the caption “Where’s the party at? 2018 was fabulous, I can’t wait for 2019 and all the new memories to come #loveyou #ariana #makingmemories #arilovers”

Katherine McNamara (Clary) tweeted: 2018, thank you. 2019, I’m ready. #happynewyear

Other News

Shadowhunters TV tweeted: Two practically perfect things in one video: @Kat_McNamara and @Disney’s #MaryPoppinsReturns. Make sure to catch this one, in theaters Wednesday.

YoutubeTV tweeted: First up on our #Shipmas List is the iconic Magnus Bane and Alec Lightwood. May @ShadowhuntersTV let them live happily ever after. #MalecForever

FanCityCentral tweeted: Hey #Shadowfam We’re joined by @_jbho_ in tomorrow’s FANMAS episode!! We compete in a Gingerbread House Challenge with Brother Zachariah & talk all things Shadowhunters! Subscribe to check it out & enter our awesome SH giveaway tomorrow!

Film Daily (contest): 60 second fan fiction seasonal contest

FanCityCentral (video): GUYS ITS HERE!!! DAY SIX OF #FANMAS Our super intense gingerbread making contest with @_jbho_ is live! AND our amazing #shadowhunters giveaway. We had so much fun making this for you guys we can’t wait to hear what you think!   

FanCityCentral (Video): Helllooooo fandom fam... As promised we have a 9 minute Blooper-esque video coming to you tomorrow with outtakes from our gingerbread competition with @_jbho_ #Shadowhunters #SaveShadowhunters

FanCityCentral (video): #12 This moment “A new love interest? Are you out of your mind?!” Proving once again why entertainment shows should hire fans for interviews-or at the very least do their research. #MalecForever #SaveShadowhunters #FandomIn2018

@ferilambert tweeted: It’s officially on freeform.com. why they didn’t post it on twitter? Go and stream the shit out of it #Shadowfam #SaveShadowhunters #Shadowhunters

Alberto Rosende (Simon): Feb 25th! #ShadowhuntersSeason3B #MerryChristmas

TV Insider (article): Which TV stars are expecting in 2018?