#anyway here's kokichiohma's oumaspeak-to-english translation attempt

[oumakokichi]

Can you analyse the post-execution dialogue with Ouma? The one where Ouma called Saihara a dumbass and was into some kind of madness mantra? Would it also be okay if you could analyse the dialogue between Saihara and Ouma during that scene because Ouma became quite distant after that and said that this whole thing became boring after Saihara told me Ouma is all alone? Do you think this somewhat hurt Ouma? I know it was a charade to bring them together, but I do think it affected him a bit.

Of course, anon! That scene is one of the best (and most painful) in the entire game, and understanding Ouma’s motivations and the subtext behind what he’s actually saying is crucial to understanding his behavior in the chapter to come.

I’ll be referencing the full translation of Ouma’s speech in Chapter 4, so please check it out here! A very huge thanks to @basedmoniwa​ for taking the time to translate all of it!

As with a lot of things that Ouma says, this will require a lot of in-depth analysis and some guesswork to fill in the blanks, but for now consider this my attempt at a sort of “Oumaspeak-to-English” translation. This will get very long.

So we start off just after Gonta’s execution, with the group devastated and Ouma incredibly quiet for a change:

Harukawa:Hey, Ouma… why don’t you talk?What is “the secret of the outside world”?I will not be able to understand unless I know about it,I’m not sure if I can accept it, though.

Shirogane:I-I, also, cannot accept it as it is!Ouma-kun! What’s “the secret of the outside world”!?What is the secret you told Gonta-kun that drove him that far!?

Ouma:………………………………………………

I’ve mentioned it before, but while Maki is asking for genuine purposes, it’s obvious on a reread that Tsumugi is testing the waters here. Gonta is dead and she no longer has to worry about what he either did or didn’t know, and that leaves her the remaining problem of Ouma: she’s obviously fairly certain that he’s on the mastermind’s side, but if he were to reveal a huge secret or crucial information to the rest of the group, he’d become a huge thorn in her side.

I don’t doubt for one second that she would have killed him herself in Chapter 5 had he said anything that indicated he was actually against the mastermind and the killing game.

Being found out by the mastermind is one of Ouma’s primary things to avoid, so of course, when they keep asking him for information, he switches tactics.

Momota:Ouma… If you’re seriously thinking about Gonta,then for his sake, explain all of it to everyone—

Ouma:I don’t want to…

Saihara:…Eh?

Ouma:I said I don’t want to! Dumbass!

We have what I would consider a note of genuine hesitation for a split second, and then he instantly leaps right back into playing the villain. For Gonta’s sake, and for the group’s sake, because after everything he had to do to stay alive in Chapter 4, getting killed without being able to stop the killing game would be literally the worst-case scenario to Ouma’s plans. So he decides to pull out all the stops, and if he’s going to be hated anyway, then he wants to be really, thoroughly despised.

Ouma:Ahahahahahahaha!Did you all seriously believe in such an act!?So stupid!There’s no way I’d cry for someone like Gonta!

Shirogane:I-It was all fake…?

Ouma:Look, if I said the truth there,Gonta most likely would have gotten mad and acted violently.Since it would interfere with the progress of the game if that were to happen,I lied and calmed him down.…Well? There’s a time and place to use lies, right?

His plan of putting the mastermind at ease and making them think his entire display of emotion earlier in the trial was a ruse is clearly working, because Tsumugi seems deeply relieved. If Ouma didn’t actually care about Gonta at all, then she can trust that he’s actually as cruel and chaotic as she thought initially.

This is all nice and fine for the mastermind, but of course the others want a good explanation for Ouma’s words and emotional outbursts earlier. They want to know why he would possibly think it was okay to act like he was sad over his death, only to turn around and act like this the moment the execution is finished. And Ouma has a perfect explanation in place:

Saihara:The truth… Tell us.Why did you do such a thing to Gonta-kun!?

Ouma:Why obviously, because it’s more entertaining in this way!

Saihara:…Eh?

Ouma:I stirred up Gontabecause I thought it would make the game exciting.Let’s think through this carefully, from the very beginning.If I was gonna act “in order to save everyone”,just like Gonta did,there would no reason for me to betray Gonta in the middle of it.Try to comprehend at least this much.

In a reality show clearly meant for entertainment and providing the audience exactly the kind of plot, themes, and characters that they want every single time, Ouma’s awareness of the broadcast (backed up here, as I’ve mentioned in a few other posts) means that he knows he’s an actor and he knows that he stands the best chance of slipping under the mastermind’s radar if he intentionally kicks his own entertainment value all the way up.

It’s things like this that really incline me to believe he was a comedian or a performer in the real world before, because this level of quick-thinking on his feet and knowing how and when to give an audience exactly what they want is such an essential part of his character. He’s extremely aware of the fact that people will like his character on the show better if he plays the role of a character who adds immense conflict and entertainment simultaneously, and it has the added benefit of keeping the other members of the group out of his business and presumably a little more united in their hatred of him.

Saihara:Th-then, for what reason did Gonta—

Ouma:Nishishi… Nishishishishi…I don’t give a damn about such foolish things!Purely, I’m just enjoying this suspicion gamefrom the bottom of my heart!

Despite everything that Ouma has done up until now, Saihara has clearly always tried to pay him some benefit of the doubt. Members like Maki and Momota clearly thought he was beyond reasoning with long before this, but as a detective and as someone relatively sure that Ouma was hiding something underneath that facade of his, Saihara never truly doubted before this that Ouma must have had somewhat justified reasons for acting the way that he did.

But Ouma is intent at this point on cutting ties entirely. While I think there’s definitely a part of him that wants Saihara to surpass all his expectations and use his detective’s reasoning and intuition to piece together why Ouma is like this and what he truly wants to do, his logic and reasoning says it’s never going to happen. And that it’s best if it never happens.

In order to push Saihara and the rest of the group away almost entirely, this is the first time Ouma has ever flat-out stated without beating around the bush that he loves the killing game. People can read into it however they want, but I’m firm in my belief that it’s a lie. If he genuinely loved the killing game, he had a thousand opportunities before this to lead them all astray or betray them or kill them himself. But he knows that if he lies here, it’s not like the group or the mastermind will ever see through those lies anyway.

Saihara (Monologue):After saying that, Ouma-kun smiled eerily.The moment I saw that smile,only one word came into my mind…Malice.Yes, the aura emanating from all over his body,was of pure malice.

Ouma:Behold, I’m the “evil supreme leader”,whose personality is corrupted.The more you guys suffer,It’s just so funny to me, I can’t help it.People experiencing pure suffering makes me happy!There are people like that in this world, too!There are people like me,who spread malice for no reason!

It’s interesting that the key word in this entire part should be “malice,” of all things. If Ouma were truly enjoying the killing game or human suffering half as much as he said, then you would think the aura he’d be giving off would be considerably…happier. After all, characters like Junko, who truly do live for the despair and suffering of others, are 100% ecstatic from the bottom of their hearts when they see it. “Despair-inducingly happy,” as Junko always says. And yet Ouma just feels…malicious.

In my opinion, you don’t get bitter or malicious without having something in particular to hate. And if Ouma didn’t hate the killing game, hate the necessity of lying and manipulating, and even hate himself, then his feeling “malicious” would make absolutely no sense in this context.

Something else very worth noting is that he specifically says his “personality is corrupted.” We have mountains of evidence at this point that Ouma knows his talent and memories are fake, and this just keeps adding to it. Why put his own talent in such a sarcastic context with quotation marks if he didn’t think it was the cruelest sort of irony? Why mention flat-out that his personality is “corrupted” if he didn’t notice the dissonance between his memories pre-game and in-game, and if he didn’t know that he was supposed to actually be a force of SHSL Despair.

If you instead look at this from the viewpoint that Ouma knows all these things, and that he loathes that he has to embrace this kind of role to beat the mastermind at their own game, this entire part of his speech feels…extremely self-deprecating.

He mentions that there are “people like that in this world, too,” and I still can’t help but think this is a barbed jab at the audience. He knows neither the innocent members of the group, nor the mastermind, nor the audience watching outside the game are going to realize that he’s making fun of them, so he can’t help but throw in a bitter indication that by acting cruel and as if the suffering of others was just pure entertainment, he is actually acting just like the audience.

Harukawa:Well then, did you sacrifice Iruma and Gontajust for your own happiness?

Ouma:Is there something wrong with that?Even you, Harumaki-chan, didn’t you kill for money?

Maki’s remark clearly doesn’t sit well with him. Ouma states several times throughout ndrv3 that he doesn’t like or trust murderers, and he only outed Maki’s identity as the SHSL Assassin in the first place because he clearly thought it wrong that she should hide such a dangerous and potentially lethal talent from the rest of them.

He also tacks on the “Harumaki” at the end because of course he’s perceptive enough to know that it’s a nickname only reserved for close friends, and that using it here will only provoke her and the whole group into hating him more.

Ouma:Nishishi… As I thought, Harumaki-chan,that angry face of yours suits you better.Well anyway, you all believe in each other too much.At the very least, you should have watched me a bit more suspiciously.Ahahahaha! If you did, then both Iruma-chan and Gontawouldn’t have died for nothing!

Clearly, he’s getting carried away with his speech now. He’s spewing venom out however he can now, and while he’s still working with the intention of getting them all to hate him more and severing ties with all the rest of them completely, this is also deliberate provocation to try and get someone to run at him.

The obvious two characters most likely to do this are either Maki or Momota, and Ouma is clearly counting here on Maki’s cold composure coming through. So of course, Momota runs at him and tries to punch him, except unlike earlier in the chapter, Ouma is expecting it this time and not only dodges it but counters it mercilessly.

Ouma:Ah, sorry… I only planned to dodge that,but I accidentally countered instead.

Saihara:Momota-kun!

Momota:You, you bastard…!

Ouma:By the way, Momota-chan…I wonder if this is my imagination.It feels like… your punch’s speed dropped, compared to before?

Momota:…Ugh!!

Ouma:Could it be that… Momota-chanis also hiding something from us?

Momota trying to hide his condition from the rest of the group is only going to land him in a world of trouble the more he tries to keep it up (as it inevitably does in Chapter 5), so while he’s already off antagonizing all of them, Ouma decides to get it out of the way and force Momota to somewhat come clean about the whole coughing blood issue.

He’s seen it happening all through Chapter 3 before this when Momota was claiming he just wanted to avoid the occult student council, and no one had thought to pressure Momota for a real answer, so he’s forcing that particular lie to come to an end. Takes a liar to know a liar, and this also backs up the idea that Ouma actually does hate lies and deception.

Harukawa:Just now, that was… Momota said that he hates violence, physical battles, and other such things;You shouldn’t have countered back…

Ouma:Ahaha, did you believe in such a lie!?

Harukawa:………………………………………………You really want to be killed… Don’t you!?

Ouma:Oh? You’re finally getting on board with my provocations?Are you going to say “this one’s for Momota-chan” next?

Saihara:No, don’t do it, Harukawa-san!

Ouma:That’s right, Momota-chanisn’t man enough for Harukawa-chan to snap over on.Just look at him, he’s so lame.He’s just all bark, but in the end, he can’t do a thing.Well, even if you’re the “Super High School Level Astronaut”,you’re merely at the level of a trainee—

Saihara (Monologue):Ouma-kun never finishedsaying his provocation to the end.Everyone else ran towards Momota-kun at once.

Even though both the antagonizing and the punch was actually for Momota’s own good in the end, it’s clear to see that Ouma really, truly is just throwing himself into the villain role here. He’s hating every minute of it, and he wants them to hate him too. The fact that he’s being, in his own opinion, pretty transparent here, and that no one can see through it in the least, is leaving him simply…bitter.

And then there’s the fact that where his own lies are received with universal hatred, Momota’s lie is received with concern and universal acceptance, and Ouma noticeably falters in his facade, just a little bit.

Ouma:Hey, why is everyoneworrying over such a lame person—

Saihara:You’re the one who’s lame… Ouma-kun.

Ouma:…Eh?

Saihara:Momota-kun always has people gathering around him,but as for you, there’s no one.You’re… meant to be that kind of guy.

This is without a doubt, the first time anyone has truly struck back at Ouma. And most importantly of all, it’s Saihara. Saihara, who he’s constantly teased and left a trail of breadcrumbs to follow, who he’s subtly guided through each trial and obstacle that’s occurred. Saihara, who before this was one of the only people in the group besides Gonta who ever believed that Ouma was perhaps not as horrible as he made himself out to be.

And now Gonta’s dead, and Saihara for the first time outright says something worse than “I hate you.” He just says that Ouma is pathetic, basically. That he’s not worth responding to, and that he’ll always be alone.

Ouma:Ahaha! What’s with that talk?Even if you make friends, that wouldn’t make the game more exciting or—………………………………………………Aah, this is getting boring.Somehow, the excitement became less intense.I don’t care anymore…But I’ll just say this…… Because I’ll be the one to win this game.

Ouma can’t manage to throw himself back into the role the way he was doing before. Saihara’s words hit too close to home, and that’s pretty plain to see, considering no one and nothing else in the entire game has ever actually made him falter this badly before.

Ouma has distanced himself from everyone, believed firmly that it was best to work alone rather than with the others because he can’t really trust anyone but himself, and also, to a large degree, believed that he is a horrible person for thinking and doing these things. Hearing from the one person who he constantly found “entertaining” and “amusing” that he’s meant to be alone and that he’ll never be understood, Ouma just becomes…tired.

He’s already achieved his main objectives in dispelling the mastermind’s suspicions and in getting the group to hate him, but there’s no more fun or catharsis in it for him. He goes quiet and blank for a long time, and then says perhaps the most straightforward line in his entire speech.

And what the rest of the group interprets as an ominous line about him being willing to “win the game” via killing, or even being the mastermind himself, Ouma clearly intends as his own declaration of war. He cut all ties with everyone, and this is what it took, so he’s going to go through to the end with trying to put a stop to the killing game.

This was very, very long and very, very fun to interpret and explain. Thank you so much for asking, anon! I hope by providing this kind of analysis to it, more people can come to understand Ouma a little better in Chapter 4 and 5!