#anyway for clarity: since froi acts as a vessel for either people's younger selves or lumatere as a concept when he's there‚ people find it
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archersgoon · 3 months ago
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#also the people are funnier and meaner and like….less pompous?#you know the vibe (from prev tags)
yeah this i think is just a general cultural thing that ends up being very very noticeable because our main point of view for all of this is froi (and to a lesser extent phaedra), and both of these characters are getting held to frankly impossibly high standards in lumatere (for early phaedra and basically all froi foreverrr), mainly for projection reasons for froi (which i think we've discussed in plenty of detail lol), whereas in charyn the dynamic is very different due to the whole assassin-turned-long-lost-son thing, which is a whole other beast, plus as you said they are literally just funnier in charyn as default. so these dynamics end up amplifying what we consider positive traits in charyn, and negative ones in lumatere
in the end i think i have to go for charyn over lumatere as well, because 1. coastline 2. i like their rocks more 3. i would never spend time, let alone live, anywhere where finnikin has real authority
#i have to be honest i think it's really really funny that garg arj and lirah manage to be more normal about froi than per and trev given#literally everything about that situation#anyway for clarity: since froi acts as a vessel for either people's younger selves or lumatere as a concept when he's there‚ people find it#acceptable to ask things of him that they wouldn't ask of others (see the teeth-clenching thing) because on a subconscious level they're#asking it of themselves. whereas in charyn everyone is either normal with it (lirah) or working through the abusive dad clone thing#which has rather different results than a he-is-literally-me problem. like the expectations generally aren't there or are very different.#like the fear on their end is similar (what if he's a manifestation of all things wrong with me/my blood) but he is already three years#into the lumateran rehab program at this point + his morals are fairly developed & what's left is the hangups he developed in lumatere#so they (and we) are like. hey mate they fucked you up a bit didn't they (bc they did harm him even in the midst of all the ways they#saved him. duality of man!). anyway i've lost my thread. hope the general idea is clear#[says we don't need to get into froi projection olympics again. writes 10 tags anyway. i may be liar]#like okay. lumateran sincerity is generally good‚ yeah? it's just that we come at it from the worst possible angle and see all its flaws in#detail. even from characters we like. i have stuff to say on charyn in relation but it is mostly ill-formed right now & i need to log off#good night !!!!!
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